We also hit Sams last night and added our food storage. Pretty much nixed our vacation plans for late winter. Right now I'm trying to get some masks, suits, gloves, etc. in case we need them although the plan is to hunker down if it gets bad out there. Some of my other preps revolving around staying warm this winter are also going to get fast tracked in case thing progress quickly. I'll be honest, I think this could get bad quick, so he sooner we are prepped the better.

 

Don't forget your Melatonin.:


http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/melatonin.htm

 

With Halloween right around the corner..... Just imagine the chances of infected items being passed to children and then to their homes..

Dangit... Now why did I have to just ruin Halloween!

 

Why did you have to say that, now I'm seriously considering canceling our 2 year old daughters trick or treat plans!

 

Me, I'm letting my hair go back to it's natural Warhol look... have a great spider-y & skull festooned top hat with a veil... and a day of the dead face tattoo. Sometimes ya gotta spit in the face of an active threat. :shrug: Maybe that's just me.

I have been at Grev 9 and didn't feel at all tempted to drop it those days it went quiet before Dallas. I do understand people's need to "stand down", so no criticism. I did a little of that over the weekend, too.

Dulles hits too close to family for me. I don't know which I am more: ****ed off or depressed, it's more of a cocktail right now -- but it definitely reinforces my belief in my "tag line" more than ever.

 

Maybe a good idea would be to create a running list of who has been confirmed infected and where and post it in your 1st post for everyone to see. For example:

Dallas, TX: 1

 

Honolulu MAY be #2, how long is that test result supposed to take anyway?

 

AND Portland, Phoenix(Payson actually) and NYC...so far

 

I haven't heard anything about Portland, Phoenix and NYC. Do you got a link?

I work about 15 miles from Dulles Airport. I work with a bunch of Asians and Africans who are flying back and forth quite a bit. I think he arrived in Dullus on Saturday Sep 20. That's a big travel day for my co-workers.

 

They say the 80 were not direct contacts of him, but the "tree", if you will, of the contacts from the people he contacted. Which is bogus BS cause there were more than 80 ppl exposed in the 2 ER trips alone, guaranteed. Not to mention who all those exposures have come in contact with.

according to wikipedia, sawyer caused 353 people to be monitored in lagos and 451 in port harcourt. I presume some are secondary contacts.

I think duncan will probably ultimately have more including the people on the planes and all the people in the apartment.

If we cruise past around 20 cases I think we will be in trouble. At 100 simultaneous cases I think it is clearly out of control.

Im watching for 20 cases with a trend of continuing past 20.

 

Thank you for starting this thread. The other one was getting overwhelming.

 

I was just having the discussion about canceling Halloween this year.

I'm sure this is probably over in the super thread but it's too large to keep up with:

http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/quarantinestationcontactlistfull.html

Personally, I'm glad we're not in the same zone as Atlanta. It might be good to be familiar with these zones if it begins to look like we're moving into a lock down mode.

 

Mostly just scanning the posts to get thru the 5 new pages before another 5 are added, I find myself getting annoyed. A lot of posts are ****y about trivial matters. Does it really matter if Duncan's family is low-income & on federal/state assistance? No. Does it really matter if Duncan came here knowing he had Ebola? No. What matters is Ebola is confirmed in the US and how we can contain/slow the spread. Let's concentrate on the important issues. These are all human beings possibly infected with a terrible horrible contagious disease. It's hard enuf finding facts and info without wading thru nonsense.

Thank you all for posting info and updates. I am frantically finishing my preps, preparing for an extended bug-in if needed. And trying not to cry. My little brother is stationed at Fort Hood and is flying out tomorrow on assignment. Wishing he was still 5 years old and I could scoop him up & bring him home.

You may think its "nonsense", but what about the 1000 other "mr. Duncan's" that come here to seek treatment through our open airports and most of our population is wiped out and what's left will be living in the Stone Age again. I think it's pretty ****ing relevant myself!

Sorry Mod, I must have been typing this as your warning was going up as I didn't see it before, duly noted!

 

How many people being monitored in the United States?

You may think its "nonsense", but what about the 1000 other "mr. Duncan's" that come here to seek treatment through our open airports and most of our population is wiped out and what's left will be living in the Stone Age again. I think it's pretty ****ing relevant myself!

I just got off a conference call with South Carolina DHEC (Department of Health and Environmental Control). The purpose of the conference call was to educate health care workers and first responders as to what is going on in South Carolina relative to the ebola situation and to answer questions from health care workers in the field.

In response to a question from one of the participants, DHEC admitted that there were seven (7) people in South Carolina who were currently in an ebola monitoring program. This does not mean that they were quarantined, but that they were currently being actively monitored for symptoms of the ebola virus.

That's seven people being actively monitored for ebola in a state of 4.775 million people. If the monitoring rate for South Carolina holds true for other states as a whole, then that means that, in a nation of 316.6 million people, there are potentially around 464 people being watched right now.

464 people in the United States. Being actively watched for symptoms of ebola.

Good Lord.

 

Quick note on CNN it reports that the jump to 80 people includes not only Mr. Duncan's contacts, but the people his contacts have also come into contact with. Not sure if it matters, but it's not a total of 80 people that he himself contacted directly.

If even one of the kids is being quarantined, wouldn't that now include any children that were in the same class/recess/lunch room/gym room/common hallways? That has got to be hundreds of children.

More then one kid quarantined the numbers continue to climb.

That's just for elementary, where they usually keep you to your grade and classroom. Once you hit middle and high school then you are talking a student who goes to a different classroom with different students. Usually 7 different classrooms.

If I lived there and had a children any of the schools, they would have been pulled. I do have one son in school, but he's been online schooled at home for the past three years.

Mel..could you move this over to the US ebola thread? Sorry I didn't see the new thread before.

 

That's just for elementary, where they usually keep you to your grade and classroom.

Until recess, then, mix-them-up at least when I was a kid.

 

I have been thinking of the man in Dallas supposedly throwing up on the lawn by the apartment. Scenario: dog eats puke, becomes infected carrier and lives for some time, maybe years. Spreads disease to other animal carriers, now we have virus in nature forever, like Africa. Coyote eats infected dead dog, trapper skins coyote and we have a new start-up of a disease that is a killer.

Some day our descendents will curse this government and the people that let this happen, and I don't blame them.

 

dogs have not been shown to be carriers. The study that people are talking about showed that dogs had antibodies to ebola. The study did not show whether or not the dogs had the virus.

 

Copying my post to here in case someone is looking for information -

The list of schools where children had contact with the ebola patient...

"Five Dallas ISD students at four schools may have had contact with the Ebola patient in Dallas and stayed home from school as a precaution, according to a district email (see below) sent to employees today.

The kids are not showing symptoms of having the virus.

The students, who were not named, attend Tasby Middle School, Hotchkiss Elementary School, Dan D. Rogers Elementary and Conrad High School. The schools are in the Vickery Meadow area in northeast Dallas where many refugee families and other immigrants have settled in apartments.

DISD is also monitoring Lowe Elementary since it is connected to Tasby."

http://educationblog.dallasnews.com/...are-sick.html/

Tasby Middle School

Hotchkiss Elementary School

Dan D. Rogers Elementary

Conrad High School

Lowe Elementary (since it is connected to Tasby)

 

"Those people" that might soon include your friends

"These people" will soon include our friends, family and ourselves if this virus continues to pick up steam.

I am bemused by all the folks in this community throwing expletives at Duncan (and previously at Sawyer), because if it were you or perhaps even more particularly your son (daughter, wife, husband, mother, etc.), can you sincerely say you wouldn't do everything in your power to get them the best treatment possible?

All of you here are prepping to survive bad times and though many of you will be helping some others as you can, presumably you won't be doing it to the point of detriment to your family. Your focus and prime objective is the well-being of yourself and your family, right? That focus isn't going to change just because it might put others at risk. It's the mindset. If we had a global "think of the impact on others" mindset, we would be handing out baskets of food in Africa instead of hoarding baskets of food here in America.

If I were infected, I would like to think I would isolate and do what I could to protect others. If it were my child, on the other hand, I imagine I would do exactly what Duncan and Sawyer did and try to get them the best care and treatment possible despite the risk to others. I don't believe I am alone in this.

These are good points. These we are calling "Patients" and "the infected" now might be "mom" or "Friend" before you know it.

I used to watch the "Walking Dead" until I thought things were getting ridiculous. At one point they discover that the owner of a farm they are staying on has been "Saving" the infected from his family as a sort of Zombie pets in his barn. It was easy for them to shoot all his family as strangers (including the guys wife) until a missing child from their group comes dragging out of that barn. Reality hit quick as they had to shoot that child. Think about your mom, or child walking out of that barn, or in this case, telling you they are bleeding from their nose...shudder...

As far as my children, you can bet I would hop a plane and beg, borrow steal or kill to keep them save or get them well. It's the largest reason I prep!

 

Ebola, Are people going to flee to the USA?

Note the recent case in Texas. The man knew he had contact with an Ebola victim and decided to come to the U S where we could give him first class treatment and he would most likely return to Liberia without a hospital bill. How many more are we going to get? He made a slick move.

Should we close the border to people from countries with and Ebola problem? I would.

 

I was listening to the radio while eating breakfast. A local conservative news/talk show was on and talking about how the media was trying to create Ebola panic to get more ratings and saying that it was like the Avian Flu panic.

Then they brought on a doctor who said that an Ebola outbreak would never happen here because we have the bestest medical system ev-uhr where the doctors have machines that can breathe for you, pump your heart for you, keep you hydrated, etc. and the fatality rate for Ebola with our medical system would only be 10-20%.

He also said that it wouldn't spread in the states because we have an advanced sanitation system. People usually throw up in toilets and flush. If someone "misses", they clean it up and they're done.

He also said Ebola is a weak virus. That someone had to sneeze right in your face from 5 inches away for you to catch it. He said "if it dries, it dies," and that you could "probably just spray Mr. Bubbles and kill Ebola."

Then I thought of Mr. Duncan's first trip to the E.R. --when he waited for hours with others in a common waiting room with a common restroom and was sent home with antibiotics.

And about him throwing up on the ground outside at the apartment building.

And about the communal laundry room at the same apartment building.

And about the Ebola that's still spreading in Africa despite the constant scrubbing of EVERYTHING with a chlorine solution.

I love America. I am proud to be an American. I just hope that our patriotism and pride hasn't turned to hubris and jingoism in a belief that it can't happen here because "we" are somehow superior to "them".

 

falling off the PC wagon ...

I love America. I am proud to be an American. I just hope that our patriotism and pride hasn't turned to hubris and jingoism in a belief that it can't happen here because "we" are somehow superior to "them".

You put into words what has been a bad taste in my mouth over this exact thing.

Living conditions and cultural habits should be a non-issue.

If anyone believe's all this 'dirty people' hype, that it insulates us and assures that it can't happen here, we can take a ride if you dare into the third or fifth wards of Houston and I'll show you some Liberian living conditions. :taped:

 

A ''doctor'' in Louisiana just said that the virus would be so diluted in saliva, that someone would have to sneeze directly in your open eye less than 5 inches from your face to get it.... I almost fell out of my chair.

 

Well, the govt has just put in a bid on 160,000 hazmat suits. I could be optimistic and say better safe than sorry, or possibly realistic and say they know it's coming.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/How_...US_Government_Order_Of_160,000_HazMat_Suits_Gives_A_Clue/38336/0/38/38/Y/M.html

 

Since it's more important than ever that we carefully study any information on this...how reliable are those sites as sources of news? Not questioning you, you understand, but I'm unfamiliar with them.

 

Watching MSNBC for a bit before I have to get ready for work, Andrea Mitchell just said 100 people "may have come into contact with Mr. Duncan and his family, including some school children"

Even if this is contained and there are no further patients, it's a big mess.

 

Subscribed.

 

Thanks, Mel! Who in the heck gave this thread one star???

All who've been following Ebola on SB from the beginning know how hard Mel has worked to keep SB a meaningful place for information. Please click on the five star rating to show your thanks to her!

 

I'm in.

Fastening seatbelt.

 

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So I predict the next panic event will be a 2nd confirmed case in another State related back to Dallas.

That makes it obvious to sheeple that its on the planes.

 

Second person in DC? That sounds about right since the guy sat there for 3 hrs.

 

following this thread...

 

USA today says possible second case in Dallas