There are people (perma-bears) who will get angry at good news like this. If you cannot accept both good news and bad, you might talk to someone you love about it.

I however, am a realist; Celebrate the strengths, mitigate the weaknesses, and be aware of both.

 

A rifle behind every blade of grass.... Then we play Ride of the Valkrye's from fleets of Apache's. Bring it.

 

There is no such thing as impenetrable. There is always a weakness that can be exploited.
As far as a gun behind every blade of grass that is no longer true. There are a lot of guns and ammo in the US, but only a small percentage have them. I would guess that at least a third of them would pee thier pants and run if we were invaded.

 

There is no such thing as impenetrable. There is always a weakness that can be exploited.
As far as a gun behind every blade of grass that is no longer true. There are a lot of guns and ammo in the US, but only a small percentage have them. I would guess that at least a third of them would pee their pants and run if we were invaded.

Yeah, like open borders, allowing 10s of 1000s of cartel/terrorists and other haters of America. Well funded (Soros/UN/WHO/China) Which can & will, probably, hit traffic arteries, substations and other shipping locations. Which will cripple or at the least cause enough inconveniences to redistribute resources away from prime targets. Not enough security around our infra-structures to defend them. So who needs a carrier/or nuke? Looking outward for the threat, when it's inside your backyard.

 

Not for a moment do I believe this when we have several different nationalities residing in this country. And if that was the case... why all the illegals that just walk across the border each day. About as Impenetrable as a paper bag.

 

There is no such thing as impenetrable. There is always a weakness that can be exploited.
As far as a gun behind every blade of grass that is no longer true. There are a lot of guns and ammo in the US, but only a small percentage have them. I would guess that at least a third of them would pee thier pants and run if we were invaded.

Not for a moment do I believe this when we have several different nationalities residing in this country. And if that was the case... why all the illegals that just walk across the border each day. About as Impenetrable as a paper bag.

You know…even in the actual military, only about 10-15% of the force is trigger pullers.

So even if 30% of Americans lose bladder control, and we eliminate 50% for age and other things….we still have 20% of 300,000,000 plus, or about 60 million folks ready and/or willing to go.

If 10% of them are on the line…that’s 6 million people with guns. Not every blade of grass, maybe, but it’s more than any invading force can bring to bear.

As far as illegals and the border….if there weren’t laws preventing it, the border would be like a field full of prairie dogs….carcasses and carrion birds everywhere.

 

Laugh all you want then look at the UK. They being taken over from the INSIDE and if you think for a moment that there are not those in place here and now just waiting then you deserve what comes next.

 

The enemy doesn’t need to fire a shot. We allowed the Trojan Horse of immigration to change the composition of America. These are all American cities:

We are going the way of the camp of the saints.

 

At least they’ll be easy to identify. Every male who’s wearing a dress.

 

WILL watch later, but Russia can't even invade Ukraine. What, are they going to tow their aircraft carrier over here with one of their junk subs and a tugboat? The Kremlin crackpot could nuke us I suppose.

China, now that could be an issue. They have hundreds of commercial ships, a formidible military force in numbers, planes, etc., plenty of nukes. Their sealift capability far exceeds ours. But we have a lot of missiles, how many ships will reach our shores?

Our greatest threat is from within, regardless of which side you support, the divides here are nearly irreconcilable. What is going on in our country is unlikely to end well. Anybody follow the attack on ICE in Texas? The first apparently coordinated group attack (10 arrested for firing on ICE facility). This is an early indicatior of armed resistance against a regime. As some know I got in on the last days of the Nicaraguan (Sandanista) war to oust Samosa in 1979. After that I saw first hand events in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua again (Contra war). That is a step toward revolution, switching from lone wolf to small unit attacks.

My point is, if we bring ourselves down through infighting and inability to co-habitate as a nation, then yes, the continent is vulnerable to outside intervention - perhaps even welcomed by some factions.

The ONE thing, maybe... still holding us together is that americans have always been brothers. We may fight with each other, but if you **** with us, we will ALL join together and ****ing KILL you, then have a beer and go back to punching each other. I think most of the world knows that.

 

WILL watch later, but Russia can't even invade Ukraine. What, are they going to tow their aircraft carrier over here with one of their junk subs and a tugboat? The Kremlin crackpot could nuke us I suppose.

China, now that could be an issue. They have hundreds of commercial ships, a formidible military force in numbers, planes, etc., plenty of nukes. Their sealift capability far exceeds ours. But we have a lot of missiles, how many ships will reach our shores?

Our greatest threat is from within, regardless of which side you support, the divides here are nearly irreconcilable. What is going on in our country is unlikely to end well. Anybody follow the attack on ICE in Texas? The first apparently coordinated group attack (10 arrested for firing on ICE facility). This is an early indicatior of armed resistance against a regime. As some know I got in on the last days of the Nicaraguan (Sandanista) war to oust Samosa in 1979. After that I saw first hand events in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua again (Contra war). That is a step toward revolution, switching from lone wolf to small unit attacks.

My point is, if we bring ourselves down through infighting and inability to co-habitate as a nation, then yes, the continent is vulnerable to outside intervention - perhaps even welcomed by some factions.

The ONE thing, maybe... still holding us together is that americans have always been brothers. We may fight with each other, but if you **** with us, we will ALL join together and ****ing KILL you, then have a beer and go back to punching each other. I think most of the world knows that.

Just wanted to repeat what you said here (except the holding us together part, 40% of the country would cheer from grandma's basement in their rainbow colored underwear if someone burns our flag)

 

As of 2024, there were approximately 15.9 million registered hunters in the contiguous United States. This figure represents a slight decrease of about 20,000 from the previous year, 2023. The number of hunters has been on a decline over the years, with a peak of around 17 million in the 1980s.

That's just the registered hunters. We have way more people with guns than that, and some them actually know how to use them. I know several veterans who don't hunt and are very well armed.

 

Veteran here waiting for "hunting season" to begin, with several un-filled "terrorist" and "invader" tags. Armed and ammo'd but never "hunt".

 

I got some scottish friends, vets. of the Falklands and Gulf/Afghan war who would take serious offence as well.
You meet a guy wearing a skirt and siding a claymore or a dirk, you´d better be careful what you say, specially if he´s drunk (happens often)

 

I got some scottish friends, vets. of the Falklands and Gulf/Afghan war who would take serious offence as well.
You meet a guy wearing a skirt and siding a claymore or a dirk, you´d better be careful what you say, specially if he´s drunk (happens often)

A kilt is not a "dress" or a "skirt" although it can be worn by either men or women, it was predominately male attire. I have Scottish heritage, although I don't wear a kilt, I don't consider it feminine at all.

 

Sadly, Rome was considered "impenetrable" as well. It didn't fall from some enemy force, it was a compilation of many thing we've been seeing today (ebbs and flows). Loss of border control, economic woes, a little too much diversity without strong nationalism, inflation, poor trade, incursions and invasions, troubles with religion (both Christian and Muslim where the leaders wanted power and control more than salvation or conversion), corruption, decadence, and the only thing we seem to barely hold onto, the Roman military was gutted.

The worst enemy to America is the American's starting into the mirror. Either they partake in it's destruction or do nothing to stop the decline.

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I agree with your sentiment, but your history is off.

Rome was sacked by the Vsigoths in 410 AD, thus effectively ending the Roman empire. Mohammed was born in 600s and the rise of the Holy Roman Church effectively started with the year 800 when Charlemagne was crowned.

Charlemagne saved western Europe from the mohammedists, but most of the EASTERN orthodox church (including Constantinople) eventually fell to the mohammedists.

 

 

Anyway, those aren’t dresses, they’re skirts. How about every male dressed in a moo moo then?

 

As well-armed as the patriots are, I can't help but think many of our recent invaders could be well-funded by the Powers that Be. "Well-funded" can mean a lot of things.

 

It doesn’t make you bulletproof. I mean, unless you own a tank.😂

 

The US was founded by people fleeing religious persecution (actually from Anglicans, in England), IMO, if Americans adhere to the core of the US constitution, religion will never be a danger to the US, be it Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, or whatever.

Remember that in the 19th century Catholics and Jews were considered a danger to the US by some people, that even after WWI and WWII where Americans of all creeds fought in all theaters, JFK had to convince people he wouldn´t "bow to the Pope".

The real question is, can the US still instill the values of the US constitution into kids being brought up in the US?
Freedom of religion, freedom of speach, democracy, respect for others?
If it can, geography will do the rest, no way to invade the US, even if 10 million Chinese troops give it a try (and yes, they could muster ten or even twenty million).
JMO.

 

religion will never be a danger to the US, be it Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, or whatever.

Only one of the above has ever chanted "death to America".

 

 

I got some scottish friends, vets. of the Falklands and Gulf/Afghan war who would take serious offence as well.
You meet a guy wearing a skirt and siding a claymore or a dirk, you´d better be careful what you say, specially if he´s drunk (happens often)

A drunken Scottish warrior in a dress skirt kilt, with a claymore is a combo I think I'd prefer to avoid.

I thought Trump was getting rid of all the gay platoons.

Oooh, he doubles down.

Well here ya go honey. 🤣 🤣

 

A drunken Scottish warrior in a dress skirt kilt, with a claymore is a combo I think I'd prefer to avoid.


Oooh, he doubles down.

Well here ya go honey. 🤣 🤣
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Yeah, he could probably beat me up. He could probably wear a skirt and high heels and still beat me up.

 

Taking America by force is no one’s intention. Slowly poisoning the minds, body’s and spirits of our population is already in progress.

 

In WW1 the Germans referred to the Kilt wearing Scottish soldiers as "Lady's From Hell". There is a guy that lives around me I used to see in WM who wore a Kilt. I talked him once and found out he wrote articles for some kind of magazine geared for Scotsmen. I haven't seen him in a while. He was a nice guy.

 

I used to work with a lineman from Scotland who wore a kilt. But we complained so much he finally started wearing boxer shorts under it.

 

And I've run yet another good topic off the rails...

My apologies to the OP and mods, et al..

Getting back on track - here's a scenario. EMP wipes out the US, 60-90% die off.

What's to stop the southern hemisphere from simply taking over? Stage armies on the border, then roll in like Desert Storm. A few million soldiers and - settlers. Against what? Our army starved or went rogue, air force is gone. Only our navy at sea and some overseas bases might be intact and still have nukes - would we nuke our own border?

Would there be enough people left to mount a coordinated defense? Could the red and blue cooperate long enough, or would they sacrafice land for security?

Things to ponder at 3 am...

 

... - would we nuke our own border?...

Yup.

 

Im ready... How about you guys?

 

 

Glad some people understand reality.

 

I will watch the whole thing later, the title is correct. I find the two extremes amusing. The reality is that a small percentage, even 5% of 300 million is still a really big number, around 12x the largest military on the planet. Never mind that personally I know a lot of people who wouldn't be volunteering for the military but absolutely would grab something and shoot back in the case of a foreign military force actually invading the CONUS, that number might not be 50% but it's a lot more than 5%. Then add geography, oil production, refinery capabilities, industrial capacity, that's even before mentioning stored guns and ammo, which who knows what the actual numbers are but estimates put more than 1/3 of every guns on the planet in the hands of private American's.

I don't worry about too much but CONUS invasion is about as low it can get on the list. Whats happening in Ukraine is a good real world example, Russia doesn't have enough guns to hand out to the people who are willing to fight, let alone the people who don't want to. Is going from 2 men to 1 rifle to 5 men to 1 rifle going to help? I don't think so. Retaliation, air superiority, tanks, EMP, nukes, we've got all that stuff too and we're not afraid to use it.

 

I don't worry about too much but CONUS invasion is about as low it can get on the list. Whats happening in Ukraine is a good real world example, Russia doesn't have enough guns to hand out to the people who are willing to fight, let alone the people who don't want to. Is going from 2 men to 1 rifle to 5 men to 1 rifle going to help? I don't think so. Retaliation, air superiority, tanks, EMP, nukes, we've got all that stuff too and we're not afraid to use it.

And therein lies the problem. You have crackpots leading nuclear powers, threatening armegeddeon on each other and the world, and no virtually checks left on the systems that would stop them.

We SHOULD be VERY AFRAID to use the means of our extermination. How will the oligarchy build their guilded palaces if the global economy is destroyed? And yet many are like it's no big deal, the ecosystem can absorbe a few hundred big nukes, I mean they've done a couple hundred above ground tests before, so we'll just let it roll off... We could use a few billion less people anyway...

 

I'm not nearly as worried about an invasion as I am the cancer spread of illegal invasion that grows every day. I can shoot at invaders but killing illegals will get you sent to prison. Or worse. Its a disease we aren't even allowed to treat.