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WOLVES, YOU ARE IN ALOT MORE DANGER walking down the streets of LA OR tampa or oakland then you are hikeing in an area that has wolves. If people are that concerned either stay OUT OF THE MTS or carry a gun, Seems simple to me.I would enjoy seeing some wolves in the mts rather then seeing GANG BANGERS on the streets of all major cities.
I would rather see several large packs of wolves on the streets of LA or Tampa or Oakland or any city "playing" with the GANG BANGERS. But I would not enjoy encountering a pack of wolves in the wild.
 
That's environmentalist propaganda. Wolves are opportunists.
no its not. How many wolves have you seen running around cities? I lived in montana for a number of years and ran into alot of wolves, and they all ran the other way usually before i got within 100 yards ( I did sneak up on a few ). Yes wolves are opportunists but the number of wolf attacks in the last 100 years are at most in the teens. People nowadays have an undeserving fear and hatred for wolves because they kill livestock.

also more people are attacked by bears every year then the last 100 years of wolf attacks

I am an avid hunter who believes in wolf hunting to control their numbers, but we dont have any right to decide which species deserves to live or go extinct
 
Someone catches wolves on a trap cam and suddenly it becomes a wolf attack thread? I'd still go into the woods without a gun. Hell until last february I'd been doing it for years by myself. My doggy will always go with me now, but that's because she likes camping as much as I do.
 
I was camping in Alaska's Gates of the Arctic National Park last July. Woke up one morning with two sets of large wolf tracks ten feet from my tent. They weren't there when I went to sleep. Never saw or heard them. Just the tracks.


... I had a 45/70 with me for bear protection.
 
There is a difference in behavior between a wolf and a wolf/dog hybred. A wolf will avoid direct contact with a human given that he has an escape route. A hybred does not have that natural fear of humans and may attack in the right circumstances.

I have raised both type for several years in the Blue Mountains in Oregon.
 
The problem with wolves in the lower 48 is depredation of the ruminant herds.Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho are already seeing dramatic decreases in the elk herds and noticeable decreases in the deer herds. The problem is not so much the wolves themselves as it is the federal government allowing itself to be intimidated by environmentalist wackos suing the feds to keep states from managing wolves as any other wildlife resource.

My opinion is that wolves belong in the Great White North, eh. There's plenty of them up there, and they don't bother humans, because humans are sparse in them parts.
 
IOW, the wolves are again doing what they evolved to do over millions of years, eating elk and deer. Having wolves around increases habitat for other animals by decreasing the overpopulation and hence overgrazing and overbrowsing. Long lost softwood forests have sprung up again along rivers and creeks. Forests destroyed by overbrowsing.

Wolves suppress the coyote and cougar populations. Decreased coyote presence in turn increases fox and antelope population. It isn't as simple as killing off the wolves so we can have more deer to hunt. People suck at controlling deer populations.
 
People suck at controlling deer populations.
Well, that's an opinion.

Personally, I see wolves as competition. As such, the law of the jungle applies. I eliminate competition. Already the Rule of Three S is kicking in.

We have a situation where bureaucrats in the ivory tower are dictating about things they know nothing about, based on an emotional response from a highly motivated special interest group. People pretty much suck at anything. But I guess if things get really tough, you can eat wolves too.
 
Yeah, well this is a survivalist board. People need to worry about surviving something.

Once on the trail, mechanical injury is the biggest killer. And bee attacks kill more people than all other wild animals combined. Predatory wild mammal attacks on humans are so rare that every one that results in serious injury gets national press coverage. (I think they all eventually all end up on the Discovery Channel.) But despite the fact that only a hand full out of the tens of millions who use the outdoors every year get attacked by bear or cougar or wolf, wild animal attack still sits up front and center in many minds. Just driving to the trail head is probably a greater risk.

Since I do not live in Alaska or in areas with brownies or griz, I have no opinion on the predatory animal threats there. In those areas, I probably would carry a gun in the wilderness. But then I'm willing to accept that I might be a bit irrational in doing so. And of course people who are intentionally seeking out wild predators should probably pack heat as well.
 
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