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Yellowstone Supervolcano

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#1 ·
In the back of my mind I have always wondered what would happen if the volcano in Yellowstone were to blow. I've read about it and what I have been reading lately it seems the likelihood is pretty low. I know (from what I have read) ash would reach both coasts and area's near there would be wiped out.

I wondered if any of you may also be interested in this and your thoughts in general. I believe it would definitely be a SHTF scenario.
 
#27 ·
Outside of those where the huge amount of ash would fall in the west, I think most humans would survive the eruption.

Afterwards there might be a great deal of starvation, globally, but humans would survive. Just not in the numbers we had before. Humans have supposedly survived volcanic winters in the very recent past, in terms of planetary age, so we would survive this one too.

Well we are late for an ice age.
 
#3 ·
I believe a lot of people are uninformed of volcanic ash collecting on their rooftops. this would cause their roofs collapse. so dont forget to put sweeping your roof on the todo list.

Next I believe the temperature would drop to the point where crops would not grow causing a world wide food shortage. also my saying is "how do you dress for a super volcano? dress warm."

One last thing. something I haven't really heard. I believe if a super volcano erupts then plan for major earthquakes around the globe. 8.0 quakes here and there will probably do some damage to infrastructure making the situation worse.

That last one I figured myself, but just a few ideas I had. to let you know the toba super volcano is more likely to erupt then yellowstone. I saw it on the internet.

Take it easy.
 
#5 ·
Outside of those where the huge amount of ash would fall in the west, I think most humans would survive the eruption.

Afterwards there might be a great deal of starvation, globally, but humans would survive. Just not in the numbers we had before. Humans have supposedly survived volcanic winters in the very recent past, in terms of planetary age, so we would survive this one too.
 
#7 ·
It would put the kibosh on all the worry over the Ebola outbreak, that's for sure. :eek:

Seriously, there are a number of informed members holding conversations in this very subforum who are better qualified to answer your question than me. I know there's a number of "doom" addicts out there who just can't wait for this to happen, but they're probably not the best source for information on the actual repercussions.

:thumb:
 
#12 ·
"I think", ??
A significant jar to the earth will pretty much finish it off.
We have with nuclear power plants made sure of this, tipping the scales against mans survival.
If you watch the ring of fire and other major events around the planet the frequency is growing ,at an interesting level every day.
Some say the sun is causing it , some blame HARP , some blame global warming,some blame CO2 emissions , and host of other things.
Most of which we can do nothing about preventing.
One's best course might be to move, but where there is less of a threat.
Where can that be ?
I had often thought that the far north and building a biosphere would be sufficient.
Those with big money are already doing that.
But it's costly and few if any are truly self sufficient as a completely stand alone operation. Life is still dependent on the sun like it or not.
Artificial light does not last forever.
Even if you had the technology for making your own lighting the materials may not be redly available.
A lot of specialized handling goes into that operation.
Gathering hard copy on "how to" ,I believe is as important as long term survival foods and gardening.
I go through a lot of ink and paper just from this site ,as well as others ,and roughly several hundred technical books, and catalogs, gathered over at least 50 years.
Machinery hand books and motor manuals s well as how to libraries and instructional manuals even Fords manual for build a business for auto repair, Model A soup to nuts.
Some writings are fairly recent and some date back to the late 1800s.
If for some reason, in spite of all our best efforts to preserve electronics fails , the knowledge for making these things should not be lost, as it has in the past.
If you leave it to some one else to do this, it doesn't get done.
Though I may not be around by the time these things become valuable ,at least they are preserved until that time.
 
#23 ·
Actually, you can always count on wind power as long as there is sun, so throw a biodome in russia over the richest coal reserves... then when the sun dies, retreat underground and use the massive amounts of crude oil and coal to burn in a giant turbine furnace for light, heat and energy. Whoever you took in your biodome will die out due to health problems from inbred genetics long before the coal is used up.

Oh, make sure to run pipeline from surrounding water bodies and the ocean to your bunker. And of course, pressurize your underground bunker, and have some reverse well system so when the water pipes freeze, you can drill your way out to collect ice for water on the surface of the earth.
 
#13 ·
In my mind, if such a thing happened, it would go FAR beyond SHTF. For the North America, if not the world, this would be a true TEOTWAWKI event. Life would completely change, and it is not something that would be recovered from in the life time of most of us posting on this site.

Setting aside the massive effects such an event would have, the potential for all sorts of secondary effects (triggering other fault lines, damaging nuclear power plants, economic and agricultural devastation, etc) would add up fast to make this level of event world changing.

Unless you have a full on bunker for you, your family, and enough others to maintain a population for the next couple decades, you will find North America NOT a place you want to be if Yellowstone goes.
 
#14 ·
That kind of event would be TEOTWAWKI for most of north and central America. Those not killed by the eruption, suffocated by the ash, irradiated by nuclear power plants melting down, will die of dehydration(ash clogging water treatment centers across the continent), or possibly starve. A handful might survive the initial catastrophe, but unless they're able to make it to refugee camps away from the continent or have a bunker with 50+ years of supplies, they're likely going to die within a month from one of the aforementioned causes.

Apart from the expected geopolitical effects of the world's only superpower and largest economy effectively disappearing overnight, expect a tectonic event of this level to cause massive earthquakes around the globe. These disasters will be worse than disasters in the past, since the US provides over 90% of global humanitarian aid and more or less funds the UN. Once the world's recovered from the shock, Europe will likely end up under Russian control, and China will control most of the rest of the world.
 
#15 ·
My novel Winter Fall is about this very topic. In my story, the eruption causes extreme damage across a large part of the West, but the real kicker is the sudden and dramatic drop in temperatures, which puts the most of the Northern Hemisphere into the deep freeze. Starvation and lawlessness ensues, and that's what my characters are faced up against...lol.

To me, Yellowstone represents real doom - a true TEOTWAWKI scemario.
 
#22 ·
You'll just die more slowly

Some scientists say that after the super-eruption of Toba about 84,000 years ago the entire human race was reduced to about 1,000 breeding pairs. Apparently, studies of mitochondrial DNA show the genetic bottleneck quite clearly.

Something to think about. I wonder if Yellowstone is larger than Toba was...
It's a hypothesis, but there are several out there for the cause of the genetic bottleneck. The human race is also much different now than it was 84,000 years ago, so who knows what the world wide effect would really be but I'm sure no matter what it would be devastating if it erupted on that scale.

Last estimates I saw predicted a very low percentage of eruptible magma in the chamber so I wouldn't be overly concerned with it.
 
#26 ·
novelization of said event

Supervolcano: Eruption: Harry Turtledove: 9780451464200: Amazon.com: Books

bad, bad stuff. probly the end if the US of A, at least.
Has anyone looked at the reviews for that book? I've never seen so many 1-star reviews, especially for an established author. It's too bad, as I've enjoyed a number of his books, before his writing went off a cliff.

Anyhow, here's a plug for my book I released about two weeks ago on the same topic - it's a real doom-fest for those who enjoy that kind of stuff. :D:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O5J3EYG
 
#29 ·
Yep, an interesting thought to stay aware of and as informed as the government will allow.

Interesting happening in Utah;
http://www.emergencyinfoutah.com/go/doc/2515/2402678/


I try to follow this link as much as possible now that activity in Iceland continues and the new volcano burping down in Costa Rica. The Utah and Jelleystone quakes have gotten larger and more spread out recently.
http://www.seis.utah.edu/

Costa Rica
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N..._News/World-News/2014/10/31/Costa-Ricas-Turrialba-volcano-erupts/8721414750323/
 
#36 ·
Nothing at all. It would take a hella lot more than an airliner to cause the volcano to blow.
A while back, we discussed a widely reported comment from some Russian bureaucrat who said they might consider targeting the caldera with nukes, and a number of guys here with more knowledge on the subject than most, said even that wouldn't likely be sufficient to cause it to blow.
 
#40 ·
The Smithsonian channel had a special on Yellowstone, future eruptions, fallout, etc. this past weekend, good Theory and Fact filled one hour show .

I would recommend watching--it wasn't "climate change" or "PC" driven.

It had A Lot of video's from Actual Volcano's that had erupted in the past 50 years, what the warning sign were (some missed), what happened, what could have been done to reduce damage/loss of life.

General theory is that Yellowstone will erupt at some point in the future, but probably not in any of our life time