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~ "Worried About Food Stamp Cuts" ~

7.2K views 91 replies 46 participants last post by  MtnCat  
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#12 ·
Purge the rolls, end the selling of benefit cards and means test the program.

Not just EBT and welfare but social security and medicare.

EBT was never meant to sustain you, it's a supplement.

Welfare was never meant as a way of life.

Social security (SS) was never meant to be a retirement fund. It was meant for widows, the elderly and orphans. Not an extra bonus sheck so you can take an extra trip to the islands during retirement. IF you're making over 25K in retirement you should never get a dime from SS.

Medicare was intented to help the dire poor get medical care.

:)
 
#13 ·
I would be more worried about an increase in home invasions, burglaries, armed robberies and thefts than anything. Even a 5% drop in benefits for the low information voter crowd equates to a large loss for them and they will make it up in some fashion. A $5.00 or $50.00 loss is nothing for most of us in this forum. But to many other people, the same loss of money really hurts them at the end of the month. Some family budgets are operating that tightly that they can't afford to lose any money at all. So a 5% drop to some family budgets is like a kick in the teeth and they will be desperate to make up that loss and some will turn to crime to eliminate the problem being forced on them by the government.
 
#14 ·
Wal-Mart was insane last night I attributed it to a combination of the cuts and it being Halloween
I read a book, years ago, one of the premises was welfare was available but if food was received it was colored gray and had no flavor it was nutritionally balanced , receive clothing, gray. housing kept you dry above 50*F and below 110*F. the point was to make it uncomfortable to be a non contributor.
 
#16 ·
This is the USA in 2013. Cuts in food stamps mean...

Plenty of tug the old heartstring news stories featuring nice looking (read not morbidly overweight tattooed side show characters) single moms trying to feed their 2.3 children while going to school and working a minimum wage job.

Stories about old people forced to eat cat food.

Handwringing over the economy grinding to a halt while the perfect storm (cutback in unemployment + food stamp) are the result in a reduced government driven minimalist demand economy.

Steny Hoyer lamenting the starving old and poor people in the street after Republicans forced austerity on the most vulnerable.

Riots? Hardly. This isn't 1968. Too many Americans are too fat and lazy but barely smart enough to realize that their scooter won't function without electricity.
 
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Everyone I see using food stamps at the store are driving new pickups with big rims and tires. Wife stopped sending me to the store because every time I would go I would get home and get into a rant and my BP would go up. All (well almost all) these people on stamps have cell phones, cable TVs and new cars. I doubt anything will come of this. Just some stirring the pot for attention. Trying to keep everyone scared. And note this is just the start. It is supposed to go down again next year.
 
#19 ·
If her kid hadn't been holding a bag of Munchos I would have taken her a little more seriously when she said $36 was enough to scare her. I know that food prices suck, and I know that $36 doesn't go very far anymore. But, when your 2 year old is holding a bag of Munchos, I just can't take you seriously. I've got all the sympathy in the world for poor people and people who need assistance, but when it's obvious that it's just a junk food ticket, I sort of have to call BS. Why didn't they show what else she bought?
 
#21 ·
riots over food stamp cuts would have happened a month ago when they recieved a letter saying it was going to get cut
all this means is they wont be able to go to wendys or mcdonalds as often
which i think it totally wrong that you can use food stamps at fast food places
go to the store buy food it will get you more than a resturant
 
#39 ·
riots over food stamp cuts would have happened a month ago when they recieved a letter saying it was going to get cut all this means is they wont be able to go to wendys or mcdonalds as often which i think it totally wrong that you can use food stamps at fast food places go to the store buy food it will get you more than a resturant
When I found out food stamps could be used at gas stations and restaurants I was ****ed. These people aren't responsible enough to handle their finances and we let them spend our money at some of the most expensive places. Restaurants are entertainment. Food stamps are for food. They should not be allowed to be used at restaurants. I have a lot fewer problems buying their food. I have a lot of problems buying their entertainment, when I have to work hard to be able to afford most entertainment. The only time i can see a justification to allow people to spend food stamps in a gas station or convenience store is when there are no grocery stores within a mile or two of their house in areas with no public transportation or a reasonable distance in areas with public transportation.

In my experience many of those receiving welfare have few qualms with breaking the law to earn money. I took great pride in catching these criminals and starting the process to have their benefits removed. The areas I used to work when someone was discovered violating the regulations of the program they lost ALL assistance for at least one year. They did not have to be convicted of anything. In my area the major reason for having benefits withdrawn was allowing a person to share rent expenses with the recipient. A specific example would be: Momma goes and gets food stamps for her babies, and housing assistance. On her application for housing she lists only her and her babies. Momma goes out and gets a boyfriend to live with her who has a job and inevitably they get into a fight. The po-po responds and conducts an interview. Inevitably the questions asked are where do you work? Who lives here? Momma always say I don't work, and only me and my babies be livin' here for a year. Boyfriend always says I work at blah, blah and I moved in here three months ago. After that we talk with the landlord and find out boyfriend is not on the lease and momma is on housing assistance. Our next call was always to the Section 8 housing agency to make the report and within two month momma is evicted and if this is not her first time being booted charged with fraud. Mommas viewed the boyfriend as a way to increase income and buy the better things and as long as they didn't tell the G, there was no risk. Boyfriends saw momma as a free piece of tail and a place to stay relatively rent free.
 
#23 ·
I went through my EMT training in 09'. I had a real bad lull in work around that time. We had very little food on the house. We were going through our preps at the time and real low. We went to Food 4 Less on the north side of town, where all the poor people go. I told my wife we literally have $52 in my account and I do not want to go over drawn. So we pick some staples milk, some chicken, little stuff. I walk up to the register and am standing behind a guy that had 2 full carts. Everything. Steak, chicken, beer, you name it. He pulled out this little card with a sunset and palm trees on it and paid for it. Found out that what food stamps are now. I was ****ed. My mom actually had to peel off actual food stamps with everybody looking at her when we were kids. Just really ****ed me off.
 
#27 ·
Taking a macro view...

SNAP is another means of moving money from Washington into the private sector. In this case, grocery store owners are being paid to feed people. This reduction in temporarily raised benefits will hurt ALL those who use it. The store owner is going to have to cut costs - perhaps through letting people go and telling customers they have to bag and carry out their own - or raise prices.

All those cheering this and chortling about how those leeches getting entitlements are going to suffer and deservedly so are right. They just don't realize, that applies to them, too. :D:
 
#32 ·
If I work for a living, a person that does not work for a living should not be at the same standard of living that I am. That applies to everything in life, cars, food, recreation, all of it.

If you want it good, work for it. If you won't work for it I have no sympathy for your plight.

If you have too many kids for you to support, maybe you should of thought about that when you were starring at the ceiling. No sympathy for you or your offspring..
 
#33 ·
If they need more money, they can go WORK for it!

No. That is what YOU would do. That is what a lot of honest people would do. But there is about a 40% chance that the ones I've seen and know of wouldn't do that. And a 5% reduction will be bad news to them. They will try to make up the 5% loss any way that they can. And for them it may not have to be a legal way either.
 
#38 ·
Ghost town economics. When the resource being exploited runs out all the activity dies away and the people drift off. It is interesting the economics Boom towns that are ever growing government spending has created. Moccasin has a point in regards to how others than the food stamp crowd could be impacted by less money. You take away money from the stores and it is a direct loss. The problem is the resource (food stamps) is entirely a artificial one.

It is like our present situation is propped up through massive government debt. Imagine if the spending suddenly stopped or it simply dropped to the level of tax receipts coming in. Imagine the Fed unable to purchase $85 Billion of US Bonds each month. The contraction in the economy would make it so millions more of US citizens would qualify for food stamps but none would receive any since their was none.

There will be no riots over this return of the Snap program benefit to the pre-recession amount. Such thinking is simply lurid imagination. However the cutbacks in it and the other government cutbacks should be interesting in how long we can hold this Titanic from going under.
 
#41 ·
The lady needs to go on a diet, and stop feeding 1 and 2 year olds junk food. I just hope she's not pregnant. In the middle of the video they showed the chart they use to determine benefits. Looks like she will receive $497 after the reduction. That's a lot of food for one woman and 2 small kids. She will get a raise to $632/mo if she does have another child. :(