They will mandate EV's with auto kill switches if you breach certain areas.

*Christmas markets will not be one of those areas.

 

It doesn’t need to be an EV to have a kill switch, any modern vehicle can be shutdown remotely.

 

You'll have to register your vehicle with Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau (TTB) as a weapon.

 

FWIW, if you have Chevy OnStar for example, they can disable your vehicle remotely. Have seen a couple police videos where that was done. As for some random Chinese hacker? Yeah, I'd need to see proof of that claim.

I'm not too worried about my 2016 F-150 being disabled by some hacker.

 

....and definitely not worried about my 92 F150 being disabled by hackers.

 

My 2011 Ford 150 has OnStar but I never signed up for it. My older 2004 GMC also had OnStar and I found the fuse for it in the fuse box. I never pulled it. If I pulled the fuse on the 2011 Ford would that stop OnStar from being able to lock down my truck?

 

Most likely. You can also pull the module and see if it is powered up, or just unplug the module. Easy stuff.

 

I don't recall OnStar being a Ford offering. Thought it was something else.

 

Yes he did ask, does that mean I now need to waste my time? Nope, want to know more? Do some research.

That sounds like what the followers of the climate religion keep saying. Of course, the only research they accept is the stuff that follows the agenda, anything else is rejected

Keep reading, since the folks here struggle with finding anything I ended up providing a paper on how a 2009 and 2014 Jeeps were hacked and how it can be done remotely. In this case they could do it from any point around the US and they identified hundreds of thousands of vehicles susceptible to this specific vulnerability. There are countless other vulnerability which cover pretty much every single vehicle made in the last decade, and some before that.
I'm sorry, but you being a "wrencher" doesn't give you any credibility when it comes to cybersecurity, just the opposite.

I read it. It says in SOME cases, with enough effort, you MIGHT be able to access SOME vehicles. And then, you MIGHT be able to get that vehicle to follow your code.

So your claim that the majority of cars from 2014 to now are vulnerable isn’t backed up by that paper.

I would agree that SOME cars are vulnerable. Could easily be MANY.

But you’re going to have to come up with better data to back your claim, unless you are willing to call it an opinion, rather than a certainty.

 

That sounds like what the followers of the climate religion keep saying. Of course, the only research they accept is the stuff that follows the agenda, anything else is rejected




I read it. It says in SOME cases, with enough effort, you MIGHT be able to access SOME vehicles. And then, you MIGHT be able to get that vehicle to follow your code.

So your claim that the majority of cars from 2014 to now are vulnerable isn’t backed up by that paper.

I would agree that SOME cars are vulnerable. Could easily be MANY.

But you’re going to have to come up with better data to back your claim, unless you are willing to call it an opinion, rather than a certainty.

This was just one example of a couple of guys figuring out a method to remotely control hundreds of thousands of vehicles. Like the two guys who published this paper, there are hundreds of thousands of engineers and hackers working on the same.
I’m not going to post any more links, I couldn’t care less if you believe it or not, think whatever you want. Simple fact - anything with a network access can be hacked and controlled remotely, you just need to find a way in, and that way ALWAYS exists.

 

Sure. That’s where you started. And then things developed and expanded.

If you would just stick with the one argument…it’s not JUST the EV vehicles that are at risk…and then not tried to push the rest of the stuff, we’d be in agreement.

When you argued that the majority of cars were vulnerable, and then say things like, “Simple fact - anything with a network access can be hacked and controlled remotely, you just need to find a way in, and that way ALWAYS exists.”, while ignoring and even arguing against the FACT that many cars literally don’t have that connection, or, if they do, that connection is easily defeated; and then posting links that basically say THOSE arguments are correct…well, you lost the thread, my friend.

 

Sure. That’s where you started. And then things developed and expanded.

If you would just stick with the one argument…it’s not JUST the EV vehicles that are at risk…and then not tried to push the rest of the stuff, we’d be in agreement.

When you argued that the majority of cars were vulnerable, and then say things like, “Simple fact - anything with a network access can be hacked and controlled remotely, you just need to find a way in, and that way ALWAYS exists.”, while ignoring and even arguing against the FACT that many cars literally don’t have that connection, or, if they do, that connection is easily defeated; and then posting links that basically say THOSE arguments are correct…well, you lost the thread, my friend.

You are misinformed, as I’ve said before, as of 2020 91% of all new vehicles were connected vehicles which means ‘they have the connection’ so you are simply misinformed. Also, that is the official number, the real number is closer to 100%.

 

Now we're getting way off the beam now. I am as worried about EMPs at the moment as I am some pimply faced kid with sexual frustrations hijacking my F-150.

 

And you shouldn’t be concerned about someone hijacking your car randomly or specifically, nobody has anything to gain from doing so but they have a lot to lose with exposing that vulnerability. But it can be used as part of a bigger event such as act of war or terror attack. Imagine half the vehicles on the road being disabled at the same time, or crashed into something, or many other scenarios. Think of it as a DDos botnet, if you have a windows machine, more likely than not, there is a bot installed on it which is part of a ddos botnet, just sitting there doing nothing until it’s called for action. Nobody cares about controlling your specific car, which is why it was never done, but it could be used to shutdown transportation in the country.

 

Exactly. And, as I said in a prior post, I'm not too worried about my F-150 being hacked.