It is also likely that some Conservatives don't care for the pay scale or the politics of teaching.

 

It is also likely that some Conservatives don't care for the pay scale . . .

If it was pay, you would not see any Conservative in the military, and there are plenty (they make significantly less than teachers)

. . .or the politics of teaching.

This. To be a teacher means playing the political game. One cannot, typically, be a teacher and be against the Liberal mindset.

 

Perhaps we can have the FCC rule colleges a public utility, and have the liberal college trust broken up?

Hard to get tenure when there is a monopoly on ideology.

 

Yea that's it........


You comment reveals how ignorant you really are of the real world.


How about you go to a University and tell them you are a Conservative and see if you get hired. Heck just tell the Profs you are Conservative and see what grades you get. You and your ilk target anyone who does not agree with you, JUST LIKE YOUR POST DID. Look in the mirror pal.

New level of clueless........................................

 

No. You're the one that's clueless. I've worked in higher education for 15 years and have sat on countless hiring committees. Everyone that I have worked with or hired was vetted based on his or her qualifications for the position (education, teaching experience, etc.). No one is asked about religion, political views, favorite color, etc. And no one is fired based on those things. The thought that they would be is absurd.

PS... Is that the way it works in the blue color world? "Hello... Before we talk about your experience, let's talk about who you voted for in the last election. That's how we really determine if you're a good plumber around here."

 

From my own experience, Conservatives professors don't last long in ecliptic academic institutions where they are exposed to a broad range of ideologies and thoughts that conflict with their world view. It's the reason for colleges and universities such as Liberty, BYU, Bob Jones, Regent, and etc. If they can't dominate, they don't participate.

Troll better, come on!
At least be original.

 

lol... the ole "kill the messenger", instead of the the message... lol

Living in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, some of us do pay attention when conservative universities start squashing personal freedoms and liberties..here's a link ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/22/AR2009052200793.html

 

If they can't dominate, they don't participate.

"Those who can, do; those who can't, teach.

Prov. People who are able to do something well can do that thing for a living, while people who are not able to do anything that well make a living by teaching. (Used to disparage teachers. From George Bernard Shaw's Man and Superman.) Bob: I'm so discouraged. My writing teacher told me my novel is hopeless. Jane: Don't listen to her, Bob. Remember: those who can, do; those who can't, teach."




Most conservatives are busy "doing" not "teaching"........................

 

This is a crappy attitude. Can you read? Thank a teacher. Can you do higher level mathematics that help you in your job? Thank a teacher. Unless you self taught with no resources put together by academics, thank a teacher.

I think conservatives are taught from a young age that teaching is beneath them, thus even if they want to teach, it's not something they would do. I think liberals are taught that teaching is a higher moral profession, thus teaching is something they strive for.

Most professors I know are not just professors. They are also working within the careers they teach. For example, I had a psychology professor who was also a practicing psychologist with her own practice. So she taught AND did.

I also think you can find conservative professors more than you think. A lot of professors I know also do not interject their personal politics in their class. Unless it's a poly sci class, I've never had a teacher tell me how they vote or their personal beliefs. For all I know, and for all anyone knows, professors may be quite conservative. They just don't feel the need to shove it in everyone's face.

 

Its hard to do a job that requires you to publicly worship the false gods of Left wing socialist ideals, if you are a conservative with a realistic view of the world.

 

You are not required to worship those false gods. Been there done that.

What it is, is that a conservative is driven bat-**** crazy in that environment and leave for health reasons. (Not necessarily their OWN health, mind you...).

 

http://wilsonquarterly.com/stories/why-do-so-few-conservatives-work-in-higher-education/


From my own experience, Conservatives professors don't last long in ecliptic academic institutions where they are exposed to a broad range of ideologies and thoughts that conflict with their world view.

Borad range of ideologies and Thoughts?????....BHAAAAHEEEEHOOOOO!!!....tear!...sniff!...sigh!!...that's funny!!!

....OH CRAP YOU WERE SERIOUS????...BHAAAAHEEEEEHOOOOOYOUUUU!!!!!!!!

 

"squashing personal freedoms and liberties"?


Like freedom of religion?


http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...rticle/414524/catholic-schools-should-be-catholic-even-san-francisco-ian-tuttle

 

As long as some parents continue to tell their children that teachers are nothing but the scum of the earth, there won't be conservative teachers. (at least in public schools) If you are a student or teacher who doesn't want to get your hands dirty next to liberals, there are always religious schools.
I have never understood why a person would choose to go to a school or have a job with a school they hate. If you want a conservative education, or to teach ONLY conservative agendas, there are plenty places to do that, they are called religious schools and colleges. Of course, I believe some prefer the secular schools, it makes them feel superior to their peers and gives them plenty of opportunity to bitch about the liberal loonies.

 

Of course, I believe some prefer the secular schools, it makes them feel superior to their peers and gives them plenty of opportunity to bitch about the liberal loonies.

Or...they feel like maybe, just maybe, they can save a kid or two from the liberal lunacy, and they refuse to let the socialists have complete control of the game.

 

Um...Jo.....its conservative VALUES...and liberal AGENDAS to undermine a value system that laid the foundation of Western society that is at the heart of the problem with the education system today..at all levels. Here in Ontario the progressive troll in charge wants to start sexually grooming Kindergartners under the guise of "sex ed"

Oh and did I mention that her top bureaucrat who designed the program has recently been charged by the cops for manufacturing and distributing child pornography!

 

A broad range of ideas? Liberals have tolerance for only left wing ideas.

 

Not always. They eat their own on a regular basis. They have little to no tolerance at all.

 

I am somewhat socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I'd consider the world of academia, only if the pay exceeded my current compensation. My 5.5 years of college was rather expensive. Personal investment in higher education requires payback.

Consider the situation with pilots and degrees. Simply getting the ratings and hours necessary to become an ATP (commercial airline transport pilot) can now easily exceed $250,000. Not to mention the 4 years of college required for the BS degree. Yet, airlines are perfectly willing to pay teachers wages to new hires, with at least the promise of future good wages...

Now consider teaching. Similar education levels are required, yet pay is not commensurate with education. Conservatives, quite simply, want a return on their investment. That's fiscal conservatism.

 

Conservatives don't work in higher education because they are knuckle dragging, bible thumping, gun totin, cussin, racist, poor people punishers, little children hatin, red neck animal abusers ("hard" skills). What upstanding academic would ever consider hiring that? Did I leave anything out? People like that have to settle for hands on skills like software development, engineering, medicine, building things, shooting bad people, etc. Nurturing our most precious resources are best left to those who love mankind, are honest, fair, faithful, generous (with OPM) and want to give everyone a "fair shot." Makes sense, no?

 

Don't forget that everybody gets a trophy for coming out...don't want to damage anyone's fragile self esteem!!:thumb:

 

I interviewed for a teaching job in a school 3-4 years ago. The principal told me the students were mostly 1st generation American citizens who had parents from foreign countries (NOT just Mexico, it seemed like a lot of Eastern Europeans as well). She stated my background (former LEO, former military) was the reason she wanted to hire me because the kids needed a male authority figure.

I got a better job offer a week later and never taught one class. I was kind of looking forward to it. Oh well. "The Substitute, Part IV" is going to have to wait.

Sorry kids.

 

Brain side dominance may factor into this. Here is my hypothesis on the matter.

Right brain, left handed, creative side falls naturally to the arts and humanities. And towards liberalism. Please note that because left-handedness is still quietly discouraged there are plenty of right handed right brain types out there.

Left brain, right handed, analytical sided folks tend to go into the sciences, finance, and technology. And lean more towards conservative structural thought.

The arts and humanities have a lower expectation of final pay scale in business and can find the education sector at least secure employment, if not exactly a rich one. When all the possible jobs pay lousy you will grab for the most secure one especially if it has a high benefits packaged attached.

The hard science/math disciplines find more financially rewarding opportunities in the private sector and thus see no reason to bother with low pay jobs in the educational sector.

 

I am left handed. Also conservative and educated in some branches of science (metallurgy/material science).
How does that fit into your hypothesis?

 

I'm not in higher Ed because high school pays more and has more time off. I'm in my eighth year after retirement from the USN and am a big time righty. My principal is married to a retired Army colonel and a In God We Trust sign is at the entrance to the building. This is a public school.

I'm not required to teach left wing idiology.

I'm in far left Northern Virginia and have not witnessed any of the stuff written about the sorry state of education in this country. If though, one has issues with the current state of affairs in education, attend school board meetings and stop whining on Al's amazing Internet.

 

If though, one has issues with the current state of affairs in education, attend school board meetings and stop whining on Al's amazing Internet.

You are making the assumption that the school board allows you to talk.

When the board approves the agenda/talking points/itinerary and enforces it with sheriff's deputies . . . where is the parent input?

 

This sort of thing is like everything else, we only hear the loudest voices. Yes some schools may well be very liberal, but cant imagine they run off everybody else, people in the minority opinion would just learn to not say anything. Or simply dont inject their personal views into it, some classes would be hard to involve politics. I was taking classes for drafting and autocad, cant imagine how the teacher could manage to push their political views into those subjects. Your drawing pictures of car parts, being a democrat or republican shouldn't have any end effect on such a thing.

And it has been said that people tend to try to take over, force those who dont share their beliefs out. I hope nobody is going to try to claim its a purely liberal thing to do. That conservatives are so much more reasonable when it comes to opposing views. My sister lost a job because her views didnt mesh with the owners. They gave her alot of grief first, trying to get her to see how wrong she was, when she wouldn't well it was time to go then. I believe her bosses words were "I cant have someone who voted for that n*****r Obama working for me". She answered phones and shuffled paperwork, how do her political beliefs factor into that?

Im not going to say she was right or wrong, I went to war for this country so she and everybody else could choose as they feel. But there are a great many people who think you have to think just like they do or are simply wrong, and since your wrong should not be allowed to make a choice. I have family that swears Im some sort of communist because I dont share everyone of their deeply held beliefs. Doesnt seem to matter to them I am the only one in 5 generations to actually fight for this country. They are great armchair patriots.

And on a side note I find it odd that many, people on here say it alot. That instead of going and getting welfare, go get an education so you can get a better job. Then in the next post rail against the liberal college system, the same one they previously said you should become part of to have a better future. Its in the news several republican governors, most notable in Wisconsin, trying to gut the very college education system that they tout as the way to better yourself and get a higher paying job. Needless to say Im a bit confused by such contradictory stances.

 

Its in the news several republican governors, most notable in Wisconsin, trying to gut the very college education system that they tout as the way to better yourself and get a higher paying job. Needless to say Im a bit confused by such contradictory stances.

The Gov of Wisconsin is trying to cut the budget of the UW system by $300 million over 2 yrs.... in a $6 billion dollar school system budget. They get 20% of their funding from the state That is not "gutting" education regardless of what the whiney, loudmouth, libs say. He has also suggested that the professors actually teach an additional class to save $$....oh horror.

The UW system was charging students so much money, that the school had a $200 million "slush" fund that was found in an audit 2yrs ago. Gov Walker then said they could not raise tuition for 2yrs.

 

Liberals are firmly entrenched in academia. They own all the top spots. Majority rules. It really is that simple. See what happens to the prof who dare speaks out on race issues.

 

Because most of us are logical and don't agree with the lies they try to push.

 

My degree is In Ag the majority of my instructors were conservative except for the leadership portion the head of the department was all about feelings

 

My experience in college is that either the teacher doesn't make any mention of politics, or they spout off a bunch of left wing ideas. History is the worst, the teachers only talk about race and financial inequality. They get away with it too- I was the only student who read the entire "Notes on the State of Virginia" before our last test. There is no one to back me up. We are skimming around the Constitution as much as possible. On the other hand, my professors that teach hard sciences don't have an agenda. They simply teach the materials and act professional. They don't care about your feelings, they just give you information.

 

Walter Williams, the economics professor, columnist, political writer, and occasional radio host is absolutely hated by others in academia because he is a free market Libertarian who defaults to freedom in all cases. It doesn't take much of that to run most people who are not Socialists off.

 

Don't know about you, but my constitutional law teacher was a retired Fresno PD sergeant and was the most conservative man I'd met. Totally down to earth, loved his 2a, hated he couldn't carry on campus and he was just overall a great guy.

 

If you want to find the conservative profs go to the engineering department.

 

I feel forced to post this (the classic Sam Kinison scene in Back to School):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj5k6toS7i8