Just one more reason to NEVER move north. From what the article says, they weren't even evil devil-spawned assault rifles of mass destruction.. just plain ole handguns..
wtf?

 

Standard shoddy quality of reporting

I thought the article might have continued but apparently not. I wanted to know why there was such an interest in this man. Things that would justly raise a red flag would be:
1. Guns shipped to his home rather than an FFL
2. He is a felon and can not lawfully own a gun
3. He violated a waiting period in obtaining those weapons
4. He violated some other local regulation unknown to me.

But the article said nothing about any of this nor did it explain why he was arrested. Knowing under what charges this man was arrested is the most important question this article ignored. If he was picked up on drug charges then the seizure of the weapons could be justified.

Shame on this shoddy reporting.

 

I thought the article might have continued but apparently not. I wanted to know why there was such an interest in this man. Things that would justly raise a red flag would be:
1. Guns shipped to his home rather than an FFL
2. He is a felon and can not lawfully own a gun
3. He violated a waiting period in obtaining those weapons
4. He violated some other local regulation unknown to me.

But the article said nothing about any of this nor did it explain why he was arrested. Knowing under what charges this man was arrested is the most important question this article ignored. If he was picked up on drug charges then the seizure of the weapons could be justified.

Shame on this shoddy reporting.

Well said, this is exactly what I was thinking.

 

Notice the article NEVER listed ANYTHING that would give probable cause for a warrant or to seize property!!!!!

 

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/man_arrested_in_staten_island_1.html

The Staten Island gun collector arrested yesterday for having an arsenal of 80 handguns and rifles among an extensive weapons collection did not have permits for any of them.

Gary Granato, of 864 Jewett Avenue in Westerleigh, did not have a permit for any of the 77 handguns and three rifles and shotguns taken by police yesterday, although he had applied for permits twice in the past and been denied for reasons that were not immediately available, police said.

The 54-year-old Granato apparently is a collector and bought many of the guns, some of them antiques dating to the early 1900s, at the Web site auctionarms.com. Police don't believe any of them were used in a crime.

"Some of these are old, but everything on that table will take a cartridge and will readily take a shot," said Police Lt. Matthew Davis of the Firearms Suppression Division. "These could all be recovered on the street, in any precinct in the city."

permits for rifles and shotguns?
new york is a ****ing nanny state.

 

Davis said Granato, who twice applied for a license, did not have a permit for the arsenal.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_.../ny_crime/2009/03/03/2009-03-03_cops_find_huge_illegal_gun_cache_in_stat-2.html

I guess he had a petit larceny charge in 1972 that prevented him from obtaining a permit (if the comments under the article are accurate).

 

Permits are unconstitutional they interfere with the right to bear arms.

 

Agreed.

If you need permission via a "permit" to exercise your inalienable rights then your not a free man.
Free men don't need to ask for permission
A right is not a right, but rather a privilege, if it can be so effortlessly taken away.

 

And look many of those guns are black powder cap and ball pistols, the most likely gun to be used in drive by shootings.:thumb:


Rifleman 336

 

In 1969, I left New Hampshire and traveled to Washington State via California.
I had a bed made in the back of my Scout, and under all the bedding I stashed my 2 rifles, 1 shotgun and three handguns. I drove through upper N.Y., into Canada, down through Minnesota and on across the country. When I got to WA, somebody commented that it was a "good thing you didn't get caught". I got curious and did some research. In my travels, I found I had violated no less than 23 "gun laws"! I seem to recall that 5 of them involved N.Y. State. And that was 40 years ago!

 

I live in New York. A permit is required for a handgun (and each handgun is registered by serial number to that permit), but not for rifles or shotguns. New York City, however, has its own rules and its own restrictions, and my handgun permit is not valid there.

 

As bad a kommiefornia.
I'm actually beginning to believe states like NY and Cali need to be FORCED to remove themselves from the Union of the United States, they no longer resemble qualified members of the Union and should exit forthwith. By their own state legislatures they have violated the Constitution repeatedly and there by should NOT be allowed to be a part of the United States.

Rather than rebellion we need to restore, as part of the process of the restoration states like these need to be stripped of their protection and membership as well as federal funding.

Hows that?

 

To answer 1 thru 4, no, no, no and no

 

Firearms Suppression Division? Well, at least their honest about violating your rights.

 

As Phil stated above, in wonderful NYS, you need a permit just to OWN a handgun, let alone carry concealed.. and good luck getting one in the NYC area.

We can debate and decry the ludicrous nature of how American citizens are treated by the officials of the NewYorishtanian Soviet Socialist People's Republic until the cows come home, but the reality is nothing will change for law abiding citizens of that State.

The only practical, prudent course of action to take by those living in such states who are fed up with the improper regulations and outrageous tax burdens, is to do your research, select a more freedom respecting State where your values will be better aligned with the establishment, make a plan and move.

 

And another conspiracy bites the dust. The guy didn't have permits and got busted. Love to now wher all these internet sources supossedly are.

 

I am new to this site. What conspiracy??

 

In the past year or so I have read hundreds upon hundreds of comments on this arrest. From those hundreds, I have found maybe 3 that were negative. Most people would agree with you that this was an administrative issue.

 

Does every person who owns some old antique firearms have to have "intentions"?

 

Oh man why was this dug up

 

His worst mistake was not moving to a free state. Unless he is paralyzed from the neck down or is otherwise incapable of relocating, I don't have too much sympathy for him.

I feel most sorry about the seized firearms. They'll probably crush/melt them. The ones the cops don't keep for themselves, that is.

 

I think I may begin to start going around and confiscating weaponry as well. Those bad bad guns!

 

Well, I got tired of worrying about the government coming and taking my weapons. So, I was able to sell them all today to a guy from Atlanta. Now, I have more money to buy food. I am keeping an old pocket knife and baseball bat. I guess if they still need to seize something they can have them too.

 

Now, that I think of it maybe the guy I sold my guns to was from Texas and was going back to Atlanta to caught a plane to fly back. Oh crap. I just can not remember where he said he was going.

 

The guy lived in New York City, which is probably one of the worst places for gun owners. If he lived anywhere else, there would be no problem with his gun collection.