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We are getting fracked.

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#1 ·
These fracking operations are being undertaken with exemptions from clean air and water acts. The water we drink and the land we live on are being poisoned while these fracking operations line their pockets at the expense of our health. Fire even ignites when a lighter is placed to a man's tap. The chemicals they use eat your water filters so you can't even filter these chemicals out. This short video explains.

 
#8 ·
They are using the fracking fluids about 5000 feet underground, does anyone have a well that deep where it can be affected? Water does not flow up, so these chemicals are not a problem. The only way there can be a problem is if there is a bad cement job on the well, but the fracking itself is not an issue.
 
#18 ·
My brother in law and one of my sons are working , fracking in Pa . So far there is one thing they are both certain of , their is a lot of money being spent and earned . Were talking work 14 hours a day 7 days a week if you can stand it . No junk equipment , lots of safety type regs . If more info becomes available I will share it .
 
#20 ·
Its not fracking! Its fracing, no k. Also know as hydraulic fracturing. Yes some of the chemicals are nasty. However one of the main chemicals we use is made from the guar bean which is how we get a gel, to suspend sand, which holds the formation open.

Theres no denying fracing is not the best thing for the enviroment, but it works. It will make an oil or gas well produce 100s of times better. I guess what it boils down to is the less oil and gas we use, the less we frac.

And yes I'm a fracer. Well thats how we spell it.
 
#21 ·
It's not just the chemicals used in the process, it's the potential mixing of crude oil itself and the water table. I'm not a geologist, but I'd assume that they normally remain separate. But then our government has allowed many stupid things over the decades. This reminds me of touring EBR-1, the experimental breeder reactor near Arco, Idaho. The government, up until the 80's, allowed the dumping of radioactive water into the snake river underground aquifer. The lack of wisdom is remarkable, even unbelievable.

Bring bottled water if you want to camp there.
 
#22 ·
How can it hurt?? I don't know how. I don't know if.

I do know there's something about the idea of screwing with the bedrock, and with the deep water table, that scares the living daylights out of me. Those are big things for our small minds and narrow fields of vision (that seem to get even smaller and narrower when our comforts and dollar signs are involved).

I can also see through my cousin's eyes. He's a driller. Fracking means work. His father owns the mineral rights to their land. Fracking means money. This in a place where McDonald's can be considered a "good job."

What scares me the most?? In WV and southeast PA, from what I hear, out-of-state companies bring in out-of-state equipment and out-of-state crews to extract the resources and take the profits-- guess where???-- out of state. This happened when the coal industry moved in circa 100 years ago; it resulted in environmental degradation and economic depression. "Undercapitalization," they call it. Robbery is more like it. And we're going to let it happen again??

Royalties to the property owner for mineral rights are, I'm told, running around twelve and a half percent.

I'd howl about stopping fracking if I had the heart. I don't. People demand money, people demand their comforts (and they want them cheap). Natural gas generation is just another way of forstalling the inevitable collapse of a fossil-fuel economy...

...but then again, the only thing that isn't delaying the inevitable in this world is suicide.

Still-- Call me a socialist, but shouldn't the resources belong to the people who live there, or at least to the states themselves?? Shouldn't those people-- or at least state governments-- decide if they're going to be used and how?? Shouldn't the money stay where the resources came from??
 
#62 ·
In WV and southeast PA, from what I hear, out-of-state companies bring in out-of-state equipment and out-of-state crews to extract the resources and take the profits-- guess where???-- out of state.
True, allot of rigs went from Texas to PA and are working there. Why? Because of the Unions in PA. They told their employee to strike and not to go to work. So Texas is picking up the slack. PA residents are not happy about this, but if they don't want to go to work, other people will. My BFF's son works on a rig in PA. He works 2 weeks and comes home for 2 weeks.
So things like this is a racket! The DOL offering grants for laid off workers. They are not laid off. If they were, companies from other states would not be there to actually work! 5 million dollar emergency grant! That's your tax dollars folks!
http://www.benefitspro.com/2012/03/26/dol-offers-grant-for-laid-off-pennsylvania-oil-wor
 
#25 ·
Donchuno it's your patriotic duty to allow your land, house, life and health (your family, too) to be ruined thru fracturing for oil and gas if you live in one of those areas so that other Americans can continue their lives of wanton waste for a little longer.

As D-i-c-k Cheney said: "The American lifestyle is non-negotiable!"