Wow, Jesse Ventura used the government as a mediator for personal gain?

That's about contrary to everything that comes out of his mouth.

Still on team Ventura.

 

I wish it wasn't too late for them to have settled it like men. Oh well, I live in Kyle country. I am sure every jury member would rather the widow of Kyle have the money than JTBV yet they still decided against the estate of Kyle. Our peers must have been shown overwhelming evidence.

 

The trial was held in St. Paul, Minnesota. Ventura's backyard. I think it would've come out differently if it had been in Texas.

 

Whatever Kyle's beef with Ventura was went to the grave with him.

Sometimes it just doesn't pay to run your mouth. True or not this was costly for the widow.

 

so much for being silent professionals eh....

 

Ventura is a SEAL wannabe piece of excrement (he was UDT not SEAL) apparently he didn't gain much from his military experience as he missed the most important lesson: brotherhood. in my opinion he is just another hollywood/washington buffoon.

 

The "Seal teams" were UDT until 1983.


Kyle recounted an incident where he punched Ventura in the face over remarks about the Iraq War, and although he did not name Ventura in the book, he later confirmed his identity in a radio interview. Multiple SEALs who were present during the altercation have recounted different stories

Wonder who was lying in reality.
Seems the 'brotherhood' didn't back Kyle.

 

Who cares?

 

just veterans i guess

 

I am a veteran, and I don't give a hoot

 

He never should of won anything.

 

it looks to me like Kyle was making stuff up to sell books. or at least stretching the truth a bit. Either way ventura just sued the widow of a deceased fellow operator. and in my book thats unforgivable.

 

The lawsuit predates Kyles death.

And while I don't like to see anyone suffer after such a death, why should the 'estate' continue to profit from the alleged lies in the book.

If this was about reputation, how did Ventura enhance by suing a dead man's estate and widow?

Not enhance but correct the defamation and alleged lies.
"Ventura" showed that he suffered financially since or because of Kyles book.

Why should he suffer the slings, arrows and lies while someone else profits?

 

If this was about reputation, how did Ventura enhance by suing a dead man's estate and widow?

 

That was exactly the question I was asking when I heard the news. He thought people believed him a douche BEFORE he went after the widow of a murdered SEAL? I hope he goes back to calling pro wrestling matches... in high school gyms and bingo halls.

 

So Chris Kyle was a liar. All the publicity over this Jesse Ventura thing, the millions in book sales and all based on tarnishing the reputation of a Vietnam Veteran in good standing.

 

Whoa, a bit more looking around and I found out there's a lot of poser involved:

"Ventura enlisted into the United States Navy and joined the Underwater Demolition Team (UDT) after graduating from Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) school. Ventura frequently references his military service in public, and a lawyer from San Diego criticized him for faking his claims of being a SEAL. Although Ventura never completed the extra 26 weeks of training to become a SEAL, the UDTs were broken apart and combined with the SEAL teams after Vietnam. Ventura claims that UDTs simply refer to themselves as SEALs due to the restructuring. Despite his membership with Underwater Demolition Team 12, Ventura never saw combat during Vietnam although he did receive the Vietnam Service Medal."

So the SEALS who believe his actions are a betrayal by one of their own are wrong. He wasn't a bonafide SEAL...half a year, and the actual doing short.

 

Kyle ran his big mouth and now his estate has to pay.
Kyle was a blow-hard and self promoter.

 

I hope at this point Ventura just takes the victory, he's won and his name is cleared, I hope he doesn't take the money from this poor women.

 

According to the AP and Ventura's lawyer, she has plenty of money from the book and future movie. She is not living in a travel trailer using food stamps.

 

I really don't know jack about Ventura but with all the hate towards his victory I wouldn't doubt it if he donated the money to some kind of veterans fund to keep his name in good standing.

 

This should have ended when the guy died.

 

Why? The book didn't stop selling when the guy died. Hell, sales picked up.

 

I am completely ****ing disgusted by this verdict. Maybe in earlier prints it names the clown ex wrestler. But not in my book that I read is he named and even if he was, who gives a ****. I wish he would have done us all a favor and snapped his ****ing neck. To sue his widow is shameful. Liberials have no shame. That clown had NO CHANCE of ever earning that much money. I can not express how disappointed I am. Once again this just shows our courts systems are broken along with everything else in this pathetic country. Everyone of those jurors should be ashamed of themselves. Just un****ing believeable.

 

"Shrug" what happens when you go on national radio/tv lie and defame someone that has the money to sue.

Seems to me Kyle figured he could use this lie to help create controversy to promote his book, thinking nobody would believe crazy old ex-wrestler/UDT doesn't sounds very chivalrous to me.

 

What makes you think he lied? lol to help sell his book??? Did you read his book?

 

His poor widow has another problem. Her husbands "friends" are trying to steal her husbands company that he started. Craft

People have no ****ing shame anymore.

 

So ventura won because his friend signed an affidavit stating he wasn't all ****ed up? LOL

I could get five of those tonight stating I am the Pope.

 

OMG, I just sent the one you asked for last week stating that you were Santa Claus. Now I have to give you another one?

 

Complete crap he should be slapped Gain

 

Wasnt their a bunch of navy seals there during the confrontation also that i remember hearing about?

 

I think this is more a reflection of mass exposure upon elite fighting units, rather than their members.

As soon as movies start being made, and former members start writing A)First, 'tell all' books and B) action series', who's protagonist strongly resembles the author, and as soon as Amazon.com is flooded with literature such as 'The Navy Seal's Guide to Survial' and the like, then that formerly elite unit is compromised.

Look at the SAS; Bravo Two Zero and the One that Got Away was the start of their transformation from secretive elite to drama ridden celebrities.
Seals are following the exact same pattern as the SAS, who are also now infected with former members accusing each other, waging litigation wars, 'exposing' and counter exposing each other.

I could never be a Seal or SAS, but it gets pretty disgusting when these people are all bitch slapping each other in the courts, talk shows and tell all books. If I were making policy in defense, as soon as an organization became symptomatic, I'd have it reconstituted and removed from the public eye.

 

I think this is more a reflection of mass exposure upon elite fighting units, rather than their members.

As soon as movies start being made, and former members start writing A)First, 'tell all' books and B) action series', who's protagonist strongly resembles the author, and as soon as Amazon.com is flooded with literature such as 'The Navy Seal's Guide to Survial' and the like, then that formerly elite unit is compromised.

Look at the SAS; Bravo Two Zero and the One that Got Away was the start of their transformation from secretive elite to drama ridden celebrities.
Seals are follow ing the exact same pattern as the SAS,who are also now infected with former members accusing each other, waging litigation wars, 'exposing' and counter exposing each other.

I could never be a Seal or SAS, but it gets pretty disgusting when these people are all bitch slapping each other in the courts, talk shows and tell all books. If I were making policy in defense, as soon as an organization became symptomatic, I'd have it reconstituted and removed from the public eye.

What do you mean following? The Seals (And I've known some really good to go Seals) first mission was a publicity tour going around the country telling everyone how awesome they were.

Sec Nav got tired about reading about the Army Rangers...

 

I'm not saying you're telling an untruth, Nomad but I'd require more elaboration on this. I've done the required amount of reading of their history regarding their metamorphosis from underwater demolitions to what they are today, and don't recall huge publicity tours, unless it's regarding recruitment.

I will say this, however, patterns of anything are not black and white, but they are very demonstrable. If the Seals were doing a nationwide Tour of Awesomeness, very well, but that's a far cry from where they are now, with movies, opportunists, petty squabbles, self aggrandizement, legal battles, name besmirching, etc.

 

Once upon a time I was a Recon Marine... I'm picking on my Squid Brethern...

But it really is true. (If slightly exaggerated) In the late 90's when I was in High School I read EVERY "Spec Ops" book I could find (Were alot fewer then)

Marcinco (Another GEM!) Wrote in his FIRST book (The nonfiction one) about it, and I've came across another couple mentions... in the pix in the book there's a pic of him doing a "Dog and Pony show"
-Seals have ALWAYS been the "Loudmouths" of the community (Like I said, I've known some STELLER Seals)
When I became an 0321 I'd describe myself to people who didn't know as "The Marine Corps Version of the Navy Seals"


And: I do not disagree. I wrote some things when I was there, no journal or anything, just a few experiences. Friends/family tried to get me to write a book (There weren't really any in 2005) I don't want anyone to read it til lI'm dead. Perhaps I missed "My big opportunity" but I'd rather it be this way.

More power to them... I got a $1,500/month pension and fake medical care.

Because I have to:
How do you tell there's a fighter pilot at a party?:
He will tell you.

How do you know there's a Seal at a party?:
He won't STOP telling you!
:

 

He (ventura) is a disgusting and dispicable human being.

 

Segue here; doesn't he also live in, or own land and spend considerable time in, Mexico now?

Thought he was great with a minigun and a mouthful of chaw in Predator, but found his various Jones interviews unintelligible.

 

At the end of one of his books (I don't remember which one, but I only read one), he admitted to living in Baja California on the beach.

The only good thing I got out of the book was that the two political parties will fight like hell to keep the status quo against a third party or independent.