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Proper fencing to keep people out is expensive. A 5 acre lot is about 1/4 mile around the perimeter.
If I had my own land, I'd definitely put in a full working outdoor kitchen. I'd put in a proper fence too, to keep out the wildlife crazies out there.

I'm glad you're safe yuriy! I hope that someone can put fool in his place soon, and put in the place the fool that follows too.
Yes, there is a tall fence around the property, one bit of cultural difference is that in eastern europe pretty much every house (unless it's like in the middle of an empty field in the middle of nowhere) has a fence around the property- this is allowed in towns/villages/suburbs/etc and is the norm. It cost around 3k USD to put the fence around the property - I can only imagine how expensive that would be for a 5 acre lot, here most lots are well under 0.5 acres - conceptually, this is much closer to a suburb only the houses are surrounded by fences and you can plant whatever and no one comes shouting at you about your lawn. While there are some "american-style" suburbs/gated communities in Ukraine, those are the exception and are in the "luxury" category, we were very deliberate in just choosing a plot of land in a regular town where, while there still are some limitations (min distances for building the house from the fence,
etc), no one bothers you about any of the "cosmetic" stuff

- for cooking outside we just have a simple solution at the moment, calling it an "outdoor kitchen" would be overkill, just a table to bring out the portable cooking stove and a socket to plug it in, still, it makes a big difference.
 
like, did you guys know it's possible to cook outside so the inside of the house doesn't get all hot? who would've thought!
Absolutely everyone with a summer outdoor kitchen in the age before AC, which at one point was everyone with outdoor space, plus those who still have one now. Not to mention every wife who ever encouraged hubby to take up grilling in the backyard every summer night to give her a break from the heat in the kitchen as well as from cooking. :D

ETA: Old fashioned climate control was baking bread, making soup, making candy etc. all winter because it helped heat the house up/the stove was burning anyway. In summer you made salads and sandwiches, deviled eggs, 3-bean salad from canned beans, and other things that needed no cooking/cooked very fast, and you grilled/barbecued outdoors and set up some kind of roof over open air in a shaded spot for a summer canning kitchen. If you baked ham or fried chicken on Sunday, those could be served up cold later in the week, as could canned baked beans. Breads were cornbread and biscuits that could bake in minutes and also be eaten cold later.

In the winter you wore nightcaps and bed socks and took a pig full of hot water to bed with you, a bed set well above any cold drafts at floor level. In summer you switched to sleeping on a screen porch, in a hammock if in a really hot climate. You sat in upholstered wing chairs in winter to keep the heat from the fire/stove you sat in front of around you. In summer you switched to rattan and wicker to let the air reach all around and dry your sweat. Doors all had transoms over them so you could have some privacy while also allowing free passage of cooler night air all through your house in summer and warmer day air in winter. In very cold climates you built with low ceilings to keep the hot air down around you in winter. In very hot climates, you built with high ceilings so the hot air rose well above you in summer. As the heat increased in the day, you lowered the blinds/closed the shutters, put out awnings over any windows not protected by a porch or shaded by trees, and closed up to keep the cooler air inside.

All that used to come naturally as breathing to most people. How quickly we forget. :)
 
Yes, there is a tall fence around the property, one bit of cultural difference is that in eastern europe pretty much every house (unless it's like in the middle of an empty field in the middle of nowhere) has a fence around the property- this is allowed in towns/villages/suburbs/etc and is the norm. It cost around 3k USD to put the fence around the property - I can only imagine how expensive that would be for a 5 acre lot, here most lots are well under 0.5 acres - conceptually, this is much closer to a suburb only the houses are surrounded by fences and you can plant whatever and no one comes shouting at you about your lawn. While there are some "american-style" suburbs/gated communities in Ukraine, those are the exception and are in the "luxury" category, we were very deliberate in just choosing a plot of land in a regular town where, while there still are some limitations (min distances for building the house from the fence,
etc), no one bothers you about any of the "cosmetic" stuff

- for cooking outside we just have a simple solution at the moment, calling it an "outdoor kitchen" would be overkill, just a table to bring out the portable cooking stove and a socket to plug it in, still, it makes a big difference.
I have a rocket stove - concrete bricks with holes to make a stove out of. I use it as a sort of fence currently.
 
Uhm, has anyone heard from Yuriy, or has he been pre-empted by Hamas-Isreal fiasco?
Now I’m getting worried, hope he’s alright.
 
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Hi all! all is good, currently prepping for the winter.
We are now "doing health/doctors appointments/etc" in advance, since who knows what the winter will bring in terms of power outages/more doctors leaving/prices rising, so better to get all the stuff "fixed up" beforehand.
Apart from that, I'll rather write something longer once/if something does come up
 
I'm sure I'm like everyone else and glad to hear from you. I think we were all wondering if the war machine had gobbled you up. So thanks for the update.

How cold does it get where you are? I know Russia is cold and I am guessing you get about the same weather. I like to visit cold places but I also like to leave after about 10 days. My son moved to Denver Colorado and keeps telling me they don't get snow and ice there. I keep telling him he is FOS. I have hunted and visited in Colorado several times and seen snow on top of fence post 2 foot tall. I have waded through snow that was hip deep. And it was COLD!
 
Hi all! all is good, currently prepping for the winter.
Apart from that, I'll rather write something longer once/if something does come up
I am still very interested in the improvements made on your power situation. How much lighting you have and what deficiencies are you dealing with or trying to overcome? What is your main source of heat for the winter? Is coal something available to burn in a stove? Just anything about your daily routine outside of city living would be great to read about.

I have nearly finished my cabin out in the woods. Completely off grid for now. About 99% of the materials are repurposed to build the cabin. This has been in the works for about 5 years and very livable today. This will be the first winter that I am relying on just a pot belly stove for heat. If I can source some coal in my area then will look into buying a ton and see how well that works out. Right now this thing gobbles up wood fast as I can fill it. The heat is great no matter how cold it gets outside, but a short window of time between feeding it.
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I'm sure I'm like everyone else and glad to hear from you. I think we were all wondering if the war machine had gobbled you up. So thanks for the update.

How cold does it get where you are? I know Russia is cold and I am guessing you get about the same weather. I like to visit cold places but I also like to leave after about 10 days. My son moved to Denver Colorado and keeps telling me they don't get snow and ice there. I keep telling him he is FOS. I have hunted and visited in Colorado several times and seen snow on top of fence post 2 foot tall. I have waded through snow that was hip deep. And it was COLD!
I've been to Denver and Steamboat Springs, as well as other parts of Colorado and yes, they definitely get snow. It won't be like in they do in the West, but snow is still snow and with the weather changes, who knows what tomorrow will bring.

Yuriy - I'm glad you're still safe! I had an Ukrainian friend whose family moved to the USA ages ago. Best Wishes!
 
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How cold does it get where you are?
Usually doesn't go below -15Celcius/-4F, but my house is on a hill not too far from the Dnieper so there is often that piercing wind ( it has this sort of wet+windy feel to it - think of those bbc documentaries with scotland/england by the sea with the cliffs+wind)



I am still very interested in the improvements made on your power situation. How much lighting you have and what deficiencies are you dealing with or trying to overcome? What is your main source of heat for the winter? Is coal something available to burn in a stove? Just anything about your daily routine outside of city living would be great to read about.

I have nearly finished my cabin out in the woods. Completely off grid for now. About 99% of the materials are repurposed to build the cabin. This has been in the works for about 5 years and very livable today. This will be the first winter that I am relying on just a pot belly stove for heat. If I can source some coal in my area then will look into buying a ton and see how well that works out. Right now this thing gobbles up wood fast as I can fill it. The heat is great no matter how cold it gets outside, but a short window of time between feeding it.
Storage container build
luckily right now the situation is stable and there is no load-shedding, we are pretty much 100% back on the grid apart from that occasional day when there is strong wind and a power line would go down, though the media/politicians are telling everyone to prep/buy generators/etc since the winter will be unpredictable - no idea how much of that is fearmongering though. For heating we use a wood-burning brick furnace, also we are trying to remove any sources of heat loss in the house by sealing up any cracks and are thinking of getting that thin layer of film for the windows wich claims to be good for heat insulation (prevents heat going in/out).
- I hope the cabin build goes well!

Yuriy - I'm glad you're still safe! I had an Ukrainian friend whose family moved to the USA ages ago. Best Wishes!
thanks!!
 
Usually doesn't go below -15Celcius/-4F, but my house is on a hill not too far from the Dnieper so there is often that piercing wind ( it has this sort of wet+windy feel to it - think of those bbc documentaries with scotland/england by the sea with the cliffs+wind)
Sounds like you need to plant some evergreen type of trees to help block the wind. If you could add some double pane windows those really make a difference. When I was first married I lived in a mobile home that caught the full force of the north wind. I would staple plastic on the inside over the windows and that gave a 4" dead air space that really made a difference in keeping the house warmer.

Trees something like this.


I see American Arborvitae planted around crop fields to keep the wind from blowing off the top soil. Thats a carry over from the Dust Bowl of the 1930s when fields were ringed with trees to act as wind blocks.
 
also we are trying to remove any sources of heat loss in the house by sealing up any cracks and are thinking of getting that thin layer of film for the windows wich claims to be good for heat insulation (prevents heat going in/out).
I can personally attest regarding the film for the window, a window insulation shrink kit (literally plastic film) works WONDERS when its wintertime. Never felt any cold wind coming through the windows and saves on the heater!
 
For some reason I came back to this thread, just realized it’s about a month since the last post, and now I’m wondering if @yuriy is alright.
 
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Hi all! Checking in!
It's for the last few weeks the weather has been quite "wintery" with snow, recently had quite the snowstorm with power going out for like a day, but otherwise the power situation is good so far.
The film for the windows is indeed great, and while it's hard to say what effect exactly it had, it definitely does something, since if I were to touch just the regular glass, it would be cold, where as this film is room-temperature so it's like not having several "anti-heaters" in each room. Right now, our house has an overall temperature of around 17C (63F), with it being way warmer closer to the stove of course. While some may still consider this a tad on the low side, it's already way warmer than last winter and also, doing stuff such as carrying around heavy items really helps- it's amazing how much difference physical exercise makes.
Otherwise, I'm living the proverbial groundhog day, which right now is a good thing.
 
Good to hear from you. Glad you are ok. Of course it's not nearly as cold here in Arizona but we only keep our house at 66 in the day. Early mornings it will be about 40 outside and cool inside to about 63. We have some small throw blankets and just wear a hoodie and sweat pants inside in the mornings until it warms up outside. We have a gas furnace but the costs keep increasing so we started just wearing long sleeves or a sweater a couple years ago. Saves about $250 a season. Dec/Jan are our coldest.
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Good to hear from you. Glad you are ok. Of course it's not nearly as cold here in Arizona but we only keep our house at 66 in the day. Early mornings it will be about 40 outside and cool inside to about 63. We have some small throw blankets and just wear a hoodie and sweat pants inside in the mornings until it warms up outside. We have a gas furnace but the costs keep increasing so we started just wearing long sleeves or a sweater a couple years ago. Saves about $250 a season. Dec/Jan are our coldest.
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I just read the other day where someone said its easier to warm the body than the environment. I believe that. My heater is set on 72* and the kitchen thermometer says its 75* here in the kitchen. I am wearing shorts and a white Tee-Shirt and feel fine.

Hey Yuriy its good to hear from you. I wish I spoke Ukraine/Russian as well as you speak English. I would to able to speak another language, maybe Mexican so I could understand what other people at the store are saying about me. Lol! You can always tell us more about your house and the weather conditions there. Its interesting to hear how others live and how they cope with day to day life.
 
I just read the other day where someone said its easier to warm the body than the environment. I believe that. My heater is set on 72* and the kitchen thermometer says its 75* here in the kitchen. I am wearing shorts and a white Tee-Shirt and feel fine.

Hey Yuriy its good to hear from you. I wish I spoke Ukraine/Russian as well as you speak English. I would to able to speak another language, maybe Mexican so I could understand what other people at the store are saying about me. Lol! You can always tell us more about your house and the weather conditions there. Its interesting to hear how others live and how they cope with day to day life.
Yeah, once we get sun on the house it warms up to 70-72 by afternoon and stays warm until around 10 pm. We don't have a fireplace, and no way to install a wood stove without major modifications, but it would be nice.
 
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