Yeah..... This government seems too busy waging a war on their own citizens... Why would they care to put their time and money into defending the same people that they are currently going after?

What a mess.

 

Its Baiting the north koreans to try something, then vaporize north korea.

Except north korea can only build one missile every 4 years.

 

LOL! Beat me to it !

But more likely the story is meant to support demands for more money for our military budget. (Yes, I'm old and cynical. Wanna make something of it?)

 

Iran doesn't have any missiles that can reach North America and North Korea doesn't have any missiles capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. If either country eventually gains that capability and actually attacks the US, they will cease to exist 30 minutes later.

 

Diego Garcia.

 

More neo-con bull****. NORAD can track objects the size of a baseball (probably actually smaller) and we're worried about an "onslaught" of missiles? Maybe if Iran gets really crazy but NK is a joke.

 

Why do you choose Jewish Former Liberals turned Hawks on Middle East policy (Neocons) to be the scared boogey Men in this thread ?:xeye:

 

Given the US can't stop hackers from infecting hospitals and businesses which effectively shuts them down until they pay a ransom to unlock the key, I am certain we do not have the technical expertise to defeat much of anything. Think about it. We all get tons of phishing EMAILS every day from scammers, ISIS is recruiting at will, and bad guys in Russia, Somalia, and other nations have created a cottage industry of using technology to harvest personal data for identity theft.

We have a completely incompetent government squandering our national treasure while simultaneously opening our borders to all manners of invaders. We can't stop them, track them, or even verify if they can work here because we lack the political will. You bet your ass that we can't defend ourselves from much of anything! The only thing this government can do is to pay people to not work, to waste money on programs that don't work, and to enrich defense contractors by having them build sophisticated systems that are prohibitively expensive and can be easily defeated by insiders or those who have penetrated the security veil.

Think about how easy it is to build an Obamacare website vs a system that can detect and defeat an incoming missile, any time, any place, 24x7 with virtually no down time. Then rest well knowing that a community organizer is commander-in-chief.

 

Iron Dome has done a pretty good job of keeping Isreal safe.
The North Koreans can only reach Guam.
The technology is there. Not sure the "will" is there.

 

The last time the U.S. was close to being protected a 100% was in the 50's and 60's when the nuclear tip Nike's were on-line.

 

I don't think they are thinking in terms of a traditional strategic nuclear strike. More likely is a single missile with an emp weapon launched from a mobile platform near our coast.

 

Then what? A ground invasion by the North Koreans or Iranians? Yeah, right.

 

Here's a quote from the article in the OP:

At this point, the system has only demonstrated “a partial capability [to defend] against small numbers of simple ballistic missiles,” according to the report..

Since right now the total number of missiles that can reach the US Homeland known to be in possession of North Korea and Iran is zero, it seems likely the system is up to the threat.

 

Here's a quote from the article in the OP:
Since right now the total number of missiles that can reach the US Homeland known to be in possession of North Korea and Iran is zero, it seems likely the system is up to the threat.

Yes, right now.
But what about 5 years from now?
The DOD is on the verge of canning the ABM's because of cost.
Where will they be in 5 years?

 

Ill grant you Iran...but not NK ...its alot closer.

 

The standard missile 3's seem to be working.

 

Well I think there is some BS associated with this story although I could be wrong

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/products/thaad.html

http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/patriot/

We saw the patriot missile system in action many years ago with success during the 1st Gulf War, I'm pretty sure it has advanced since then.

THAAD is even more sophisticated

I'm not going to say something cannot get through but the USA has more and better protection than all the other nations in the world

If you'll read the links, the Patriot missile system has a pretty good success rate

As other posters have eluded to the amounts of missiles either country can launch, they haven't always proved to be successful and the response we can give is enormous.

I currently have other worries than North Korea or Iran

EMP may take some things out and it may not. There are a tremendous amount of variables associated with a perceived EMP strike against us. Most all of it is hypothesized and sensationalized

 

If Iran ever takes the initiative to launch a nuclear missile at anyone Israel is far ahead of the United States on their list.

 

That may be true but Iran would still end up just as dead.

 

An EMP as a terror strike would end up killing millions and plunging a large part of the USA into darkness that could take months to rebuild from. Over the east coast could cause a cascading failure that could take down almost the entire grid for weeks. In concert with ground based terror attacks it could be very bad. The idea that they need dozens of missiles is so 1960's. So China pushes their buddies to EMP us then steps in with "help" placing troops inside the USA where they claim their rights as owners since we owe them something like 2 trillion.

 

North Korea doesn't have missiles that can reach North America? I heard John "warmonger" McCain make that same ignorant comment on a TV news show. Duh!

The Nork's have succeeded in orbiting 2 satellites. Remember your basic orbital mechanics folks. If you can orbit one, you can de-orbit one pretty much where you want, like in North America!

They may not have a small enough nuke yet to fit on top, but they could put some HE, biological/chemical, or dirty bomb on one and have a reasonable chance of dropping it on a major city like LA, NY ...

 

As of Superbowl Sunday, that is no longer true, NK has orbited it's first payload. So whatever you had to say dismissively, well you are wrong. They now have all the pieces of the puzzle.

But the USA also has anti-missile-missiles, I know of three currently operational systems and one older system.

Once again what is described in the media does not reflect reality.

Guys,

Don't forget, there's this thing called RE-ENTRY

Just because you can get a missile up there, it still needs to come down intact and be able to go off at a predetermined altitude for maximum yield!

NK's ability to have an actual atomic reaction are in question much less the fission-fusion required for their "so called" hydrogen test which was tested at a location somewhere besides on the tip of a missile. It also had an extremely low yield so common thinking is that it didn't really obtain the necessary stages of nuclear reaction for a fission-fusion device

EMP is a concern but what it will really do is a big question mark. It will only affect the civilian side of our country. Our military as far as critical infrastructure is hardened already.

A very low yield atomic device (not thermonuclear) as they have tested is not very likely to give the EMP that everyone is so scared of plus it has to go off in an area to be of concern.

Right now, all NK has done is shown they can set off large amounts of TNT and spread radiation and fire a missile into the air.

Their satellite consists of something orbiting the earth, one is not transmitting anything and the other is tumbling. Both will burn up in the atmosphere in time

 

Cars I could less about, infrastructure such as power lines, transformers, substations that's what will fail. A car does you little good if you can't pump the gas. A powerplant is useless without transmission lines. Not sure where you are getting your data but I fear it is flawed.

 

They don't have a payload to speak of, but HE as used by the Germans in their terror weapons (V1/V2) would be a slap in the face if one were to hit say LA or San Fran.

 

the only thing that scares me about North Korea is that China could secretly send them some serious weapons and have NK go through with deploying them...

Kind of like how the US gives other countries weapons (TURKEY, SAUDI ARABIA?) and has them carry out the dirty deeds in the name of their own country instead of the name of the US....

I believe it can be referred to as "proxy warfare."

 

EMP bombs don't have to be Nuclear. An HE pumped magnetic collapse EMP could do pretty significant damage aimed properly.

http://www.tfd.chalmers.se/~valeri/EMP.html

 

America is big, one nuke won't hurt us. They will only get one shot off. America is good at killing, and they like it. No uniformed Army can stand against us.

 

John, a single nuke exploded 300 miles above Nebraska if it is constructed properly (for example with a cobalt enriched case to maximize the gamma flux) could cripple the entire electrical grid for the USA. It would cause zero damage itself, however the EMP would kill millions over the next few weeks to months beginning with all those on life support in hospitals, then those that have only 3 days or less food put away, then those dependent on medications that have to be refrigerated. Not to mention millions in the cities that loose power, water and sewer and have no clue how to deal with anything other than where the nearest Starbucks is and who is playing the next sports game. We aren't talking about a ground burst, actually a ground burst is an incredible waste of a nuke if you want to do the most damage.

 

Yes, the retribution the submarines and silos would deal out would be horrendous and the agent country would be blasted to the glass age. But remember on one hand we are dealing with an insane megalomaniac that reminds me of one of the villains in a Bond movie and the other countries glorify death and would gladly blow themselves and their country to hell to get at us. We are not dealing with sanity, we are dealing with ****house dog insanity.