[IceDemon]

I'm not sure why he didn't go to the teachers desk when asked? Bravo for him on not giving his medication to the teacher. When the parents have the meeting with the principal and teacher, everything will come out. They probably won't do anything to the teacher though. The unions keep stuff from happening to teachers. That is why there are a lot of bad teachers out there.

 

[Boonie]

He did go to the teacher's desk as requested. He just didn't allow her to confiscate what was rightfully his to carry.

 

[Bansai223]

The problem is with the teacher and not the school or their policy.

The nurse and school are ok with your son having the inhaler on him at all times during the day and they knew he had it before he took it out? The teacher also knew? Because if it was their policy, she should have. If yes, than I'd probably declare WW3 on that teacher. :thumb: It sounded to me at first that you went with the 'it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission approach'. Only works about half the time for me. Anyways, always have to put your kids first in any event, im just looking at this from a 'could it have been avoided' / lessons learned perspective and I'm sure there are probably ways it could have been. I have a simular story to yours, with my own daughter, but I won't take it off topic

 

[ShaynaGirl]

Your child is a brave one. I have severe asthma, and yet knowing myself as I was when I was in school I would have been terrified and humiliated.

I hope you get this all worked out -- health is more important than anything.

 

[chuckbyf]

Another mindless zombie who "follows the rules to the letter" whether they make any sense or not. Hopefully everyone will get over this incident and things will be normal again.

 

[Wall*e]

Sounds like teach needs to learn rule one of parenting/teaching/coaching...never make a threat you won't or CAN'T carry out.


I tell my wife all the time, she may be the Secretary of Defense but I am the Joint Chiefs of Staff...our rules get followed because the sanctions for defiance are clearly outlined and swift to follow.

 

[Boonie]

The nurse and school are ok with your son having the inhaler on him at all times during the day and they knew he had it before he took it out? The teacher also knew? Because if it was their policy, she should have. If yes, than I'd probably declare WW3 on that teacher. :thumb: It sounded to me at first that you went with the 'it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission approach'. Only works about half the time for me. Anyways, always have to put your kids first in any event, im just looking at this from a 'could it have been avoided' / lessons learned perspective and I'm sure there are probably ways it could have been. I have a simular story to yours, with my own daughter, but I won't take it off topic

The nurse is okay with him having his inhaler. As it was doctor-prescribed with doctor/pharmacy instructions for him to have it with him at all times I felt no need to ask for permission from the school as their permission was not needed. I gave it to him immediately before his last class with said teacher. It is entirely possible that had I informed the office personnel that he was to keep it with him that they could have informed the teacher ahead of time, but it is also possible that it would have made no difference as all this took place within minutes of my leaving it with him and he already possessed pharmacy instructions with his name clearly printed on them that clearly documented his need to keep it with him and were just as good or better than a note from any office assistant or even myself. His teacher should have done more questioning with both my son and the nurse before causing such a big and unnecessary scene. His official pharmacy/doctor instructions are all the "permission" he needed, but his teacher decided to make assumptions and demands and ask questions later. His pharmacy "permission slip" carries more weight than a note from the office. However, she did not choose to check that first, which is the obvious, but instead chose to threaten my son with the cops over a doctor-prescribed inhaler.

My son learned a lesson for sure and probably several, actually. One of them I am certain is that when we are not around that it is he alone that must be the one to look out for himself first because "the officials" can't be trusted to always do it for him. And, that's a valuable lesson, indeed.

 

[Venator]

Oh yeah, haven't you folks heard? Kids are making bombs out of them and getting high off of them

 

[hawkbern]

Tell your son that there are people here who are proud of him! :thumb:

 

[IceDemon]

I wonder if the teacher actually did call the cops, what she would of thought he should be charged with or was she thinking the cop would of backed her up.

 

[swen_out_west]

I wonder if the teacher actually did call the cops, what she would of thought he should be charged with or was she thinking the cop would of backed her up.

A person letting their position go to their head happens at least 10 percent of the time in all professions, primarily law enforcement and teaching since they are highly visible. So there was a 1 in 10 chance the cop would have tazered the kid if he hadn't obeyed.

 

[IceFire]

Part of the problem is the "no tolerance" stance taken by school administrations, and passed on to teachers/school staff to enforce.

Another (and VERY large part of) problem is that the vast majority of people have NO clue how serious asthma is, and of the absolute necessity of having an inhaler instantly availability at all times. Even though I have asthma, I myself did not realize this until the night I woke up from a dead sleep with a potentially fatal asthma attack. (I had ZERO air flow). Had I NOT had my inhaler immediately available, I WOULD have died, but until that particular asthma attack, I hadn't realized it. A non-asthmatic has absolutely no idea of the seriousness of not having an inhaler immediately at hand.

 

[mourka]

the cop part is what is TOTALLY blowing my mind. what happened to sending him to the principles office or calling the principle to the class. she immediately jumped to calling the cops?????? what kind of bull chit is that? i saw a you tube video yesterday of a cop tazering a 14 yr old girl in the groin but thats for a different thread

 

[The Saint]

my oldest was diagnosed with Type I while still in school.

she waited a year before getting fitted with a pump and until then would stab herself with an insulin pen.

The DW and I went to every teacher and principal before hand and explained to them what her condition was, that she would have needles, a test kit and a emergency pen as well ON HER PERSON AT ALL TIMES.

The only push back I received was from the "school nurse" who thought it was her duty to keep all these things in her desk locked up.

after explaining to her what would happen if my daughter went into another coma because she couldn’t be located in case of an emergency and that I would welcome the eventual money settlement from the school board as a good start to my daughters college fund,

she proceeded to agree that my daughter was indeed responsible enough for her own care in this area and that she would just monitor her usage to make sure she was injecting correctly.

This was done in front of the principal and my DW.

What was funny was after the nurse had left it was all he could do to keep from laughing.

My daughter has taught several classes on diabetes awareness in students at the HS and Middle school level and has actively volunteered for the Michigan diabetes summer camp for kids since she was first diagnosed.

You child sounds like he is well on his way to being a good student and a good example of how to handle ones self in a world full of nanny state sheeple.

 

[Bansai223]

For what it's worth, this site has (really good) information regarding your rights in this specific case because it is asthma related. There are only a couple of states that don't have a 'right to carry' for asthma medications. Don't care to know where you live, but chances are you live in one of the covered states. If someone violates one of my kids rights, I'm more likely research the law and take legal action if appropriate.

http://asthma.about.com/od/asthmainkids/qt/righttocarry.htm

 

[Boonie]

the cop part is what is TOTALLY blowing my mind. what happened to sending him to the principles office or calling the principle to the class. she immediately jumped to calling the cops?????? what kind of bull chit is that? i saw a you tube video yesterday of a cop tazering a 14 yr old girl in the groin but thats for a different thread

What's worse is that this is also something she could have handled herself if she was properly trained (or just had common sense) instead of feeling the need to employ empty threats. A simple, "May I please see your pharmacy papers" and a few simple, yet polite questions, along with a call to the nurse if she still felt unsure would have cleared things up for her. My son is also 14. It must have thrown her off that she wasn't dealing with a "sheeple". My son says the kids in his class are all (insert another name for 'kitty cats' here) who won't stand up for anything.

 

[12vman]

My son had his pharmacy papers with his name on it in his possession, which is what she saw him reading from and why she tried to confiscate it. Therefore, there is no question she already knew he needed it and that it was physician-prescribed for him.

Maybe she thought it was another childs script....happens all the time.....kids buying and selling scripts....prescription drug abuse is epidemic in our schools now



All she would have had to do at that point was to verify his right to have his inhaler with him with the nurse BEFORE she caused the big scene she did, instead of after.

maybe YOU should of informed the school nurse before leaving this BIG RESPONSIBILTY to a child

My son is an honors student and he, like most kids, has been known to tell tall tales on occasion. He is no angel; however, we know he is telling the truth about this because we know our son. Also, I would be more inclined to believe my son and all the witnesses in his class as opposed to one teacher who messed up in a very big way. Any teacher who chooses to put a child's life in danger over her job or common sense in no way deserves "a break" from me or anyone else, for that matter.

Things tend to get blown out of sorts when filtered through the eyes of children

 

[12vman]

Yes, we are aware of the policy. However, we put doctor's orders and the health and safety of our son above a general "policy" of a corporation (school or otherwise). Besides, he had every right to have it; that's why the nurse told the teacher to back off. The problem is with the teacher and not the school or their policy. QUOTE]

you were aware of the policy yet you chose not to inform the nurse YOURSELF???

It is not the teachers job to read scripts and determine if the right kids have the right meds...thats why she told him to take it to the nurse.

then the nurse would of looked at the script ....talked to the teacher about the childs need for the med and all would of been good

 

[12vman]

I'm not sure why he didn't go to the teachers desk when asked? Bravo for him on not giving his medication to the teacher. When the parents have the meeting with the principal and teacher, everything will come out. They probably won't do anything to the teacher though. QUOTE]

they wont do anything since there is a huge prescription drug problem at our schools and the teacher is well informed of this

 

[9111315]

I tend to side with school administrations, but the specifics of this case causes me to wonder. There was a doctor's note connected with the item. There was little doubt that this was and remains medicine that was prescribed by a licensed doctor.

There were enough facts on hand to make for a decision based on facts.

Look at what our schools are graduating. I'm going blame the public school teachers.