If you install a hand pump now, in between your well pump and your faucet, or between your water source and your well pump...your electric pump will have to force water thru the hand pump.... Not a good idea IMHO. I do not believe you can do both with one piping system.

 

You can do this. Assuming your pump is working on suction, rather than moving a rod to push water from below the water head, all you need to do is T off the current pipe below the motor and insert a hand suction pump in parallel with the motor. You will need a pair of stop cocks to direct water down the required arm- motor or hand pump - depending on what you are doing. Be careful not to run the motor unless its stopcock is open and it has water in its pump.

 

LOL seems we're both thinking about pumps. http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=153265

 

Several of the well hand pumps advertised on the web state that they can be mounted on your well head WHILE the electric pump is still in the well head. They are then available for emergency use. My guess is that the only issues would be whether your well head is large enough to accomodate the electric "plumbing" as well as the new hand pump AND how deep you have to submerge the electric pump so that it does not interfere with the hand pump.

 

I've been thinking about this very thing as well. There are a few companies that make handpumps that will fit inside of an existing well casing so long as your well casing is 4" or larger and your existing supply line is less than 1.5" These things are too pricey for me right now, but they sure would nice to have.

 

While I would suggest the $800.00 pump, I would also mention that cheaper ones exist. You can get a shallow Pitcher pump for very little money. What is your water table at?

 

I would put a hand pump right on your well head (replacing the current cap). Then you can bypass your primary system, and in fact you could use both at the same time.

http://bisonpumps.com

 

You can not put the hand pump and the electric pump on the same line.

You can however put a second PVC pipe down the well shaft and attach this to your hand pump. This is the way I have my system set up. I have 1 electric primary pump with it's own spigot, pvc pipe, and submerged pump. I have a second hand operated pump, it's own line, and foot valve.

 

You can not put the hand pump and the electric pump on the same line.

From http://bisonpumps.com/

"Bison Hand Water Pumps install in same well casing with the electric pump"

 

Thank you mountainman. That is what I was attempting to say, you would need a separate piping system.

 

I'm not sure we're on the same page here. You're talking about the simple pump design, I'm looking at the bison. I'm under the impression that they are different. Perhaps I'm wrong.

 

I don't think so, but I will look again. Given the laws of physics, it wouldn't be possible or at the very least practical to suck water PAST an already installed electric pump, 7 impellers, gaskets, et al, and then raise that water to ground level. It is much more practical to simply place a second line.

Given the wording you pointed out earlier from Bison, "Casing" to be specific, I would say the systems are the same.

 

I have a shallow well myself (basement). As mentioned above, I purchased a pitcher pump to use if the electric goes...about $30 at Harbor Frieght. I just keep it aside and all I need to do is unscrew one pipe and one elbow and then it mounts right on.

Make sure you keep the wrenches close and you test it before relying on it to work correctly.

Best of luck.

 

Some 3/4 inch poly or schedule 40- pipe and a $30 12 volt DC pump.. is what I would do..If your water table was compatable with the pump

http://www.harborfreight.com/12-volt-marine-utility-pump-9576.html

 

Check this out. Successful installation of hand pump on same line as in-well electric.

http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=155774

 

Well you didn't answer my question and you trolled the hell off.


So... as a plumber, and a survivalist...bah, who cares. you wont read this anyways.

 

Is that Bison pump ok in freezing weather? Up here in MN I've heard that you must have some kind of shelter for the pump so that the seals don't freeze and damage the pump.

 

Take a look at www.flojak.com. Its a new product. Affordable, lots of pump pressure, and slips into the well right next to the pump. They are launching the FloJak in August.

 

I was intrigued until I saw the ridiculous markup on the WaterBOB ripoff, collapsible container, and purification tablets. Scam alert!

Edit: If you're going to pimp your product here, I hope you at least paid for a merchant account.

 

This is the setup I have at my shipping container shelter.
I have two pitless adapters installed in my well, one is for the electric pump, the other for my hand pump.

The line from the hand pump is all underground and enters the shelter same as my pressure line.
This is my hand pump line entering the cabin and going up to the pump. Note I installed a hose connector so I can either prime the pump or drain the pump.

This is my hand pump mounted on the counter, and it is able to pump down to 25'

 

Assuming your pump work working on suction, rather than moving a rod to push the water in the water upside down, all you have to do is drain t under the engine and put the a hand vacuum pump in parallel with the motor. You need a couple of cocks to carry water into the engine of the arm or hand pump needed - depending on what you do.

Zirconium Pump

 

deep well inline hand pump

is this possible...adding an inline type hand pump in existing plumbing that can pump to pressure tank.....using quick disconnects to remove hand pump when using electric pump??

 

Do the hand pumps freeze in the winter? The lakes near us had a few inches of ice this year; just wondering if the well / hand pumps are a non-winter water source for my house.

thanks!