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Russian special forces combat "Shovel?"

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#1 ·
I have had one of these for ten years now. Best multipurpose tool I have.

 
#8 ·
That's a pretty good shovel BUT the old U.S. Army entrenching tool is better. The Army e-tool has a swivel head that allows you change it's positioning by 90 degrees. The kind I'm talking about is the older model, not the newer tri-fold shovel. Here's a listing of what I mean:

http://cgi.ebay.com/U-S-Military-St...ksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50

And if you shop around, you can get a cover for them too that will attach to most belts or military rucksacks.
 
#30 ·
but I highly doubt the Russian did not have an entrenching tool
Thats not what I am saying. I am saying there is no such thing as "Spetznaz shovel".
Russia military has small infantry shovel (МПЛ-50) and big entrenching shovel (БСЛ-110) Nunbers actually mean length of the shovel in centimeters.
Until 1943 russian shovels (as well as german, swiss and others) were forged, and used rivets to attach to the handle, and special ring to make it even more rigid.
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After 1943 it became stamped and more like the shovels you see today.
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The common knowledge in russia is that quality wise pre 1943 shovels are the best but a litlle heavier, then the ones made before 1985 and after that it was garbage.