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Riding a bike 'suspiciously'?

4.6K views 37 replies 21 participants last post by  stillsearchin'  
#1 ·
I had no idea there was some sort of set way to ride a bike. A non-suspicious way might be better way to say it.

http://www.wptv.com/news/local-news...l-news/investigations/dashcam-video-shows-unarmed-man-being-shot-by-pbso-deputy

That was what an officer said 'riding a bike in a suspicious way, and then getting off it in a 'suspicious way'. Again I did not know there was a set way to ride or get off one. Perhaps some in LE could tell us the proper method so I can teach my son.

And apparently now simply being unknown in a neighborhood is a reason to be stopped? It was suspicious for a black man to be riding a bike in a black neighborhood?
 
#7 ·
I think a big part of the problem is some cops are just scared or tense around blacks. Ive heard statistics that imply blacks commit crime at higher rate, maybe that is part of it? I believe the cop was wrong again here but why didnt the bike rider just stop and ask what was the problem. Seems most of the shootings have something more then being black in common. The perp always seems to start making fast moves to avoid the officer. The cop is scared and the perp is scared, nothing good coming out of that.
 
#9 ·
Pulled over for a DWB

DWB = Driving While Black. It'll get you into more trouble than a DUI. Once again we see that blacks are targets of discrimination, racism, profiling, etc. It's a shame that we've haven't gotten past this in 2015. I've read many posts that have, in short, said that blacks and other minorities need to change. Well, they're not the only ones. Apparently, it's not as easy as some assume.
 
#37 ·
DWB = Driving While Black. It'll get you into more trouble than a DUI. Once again we see that blacks are targets of discrimination, racism, profiling, etc. It's a shame that we've haven't gotten past this in 2015. I've read many posts that have, in short, said that blacks and other minorities need to change. Well, they're not the only ones. Apparently, it's not as easy as some assume.
There's simply no excuse for injustice. That's the thing that makes the world so upside down. Expectations are that life will somehow be just. It isn't, unfortunately, so. Because some folks are interested in an unfair advantage, there results injustice. Fairness is not an outcropping of what's right and correct. Evil people have evil intentions. Sad to say, but it's what makes the world go around and it's been that way since nearly the beginning of time.
 
#11 ·
Just makes you wonder what exactly is safe for a black person. Driving a car is suspicious, its probably stolen, or something. So we have driving while black, now we have riding while black, because well they have to be up to something, can't just be getting from point a to point b. And there's walking while black, as a black man walking down a sidewalk is inherently suspicious. We all claim to want them to work and get off welfare, but isn't exactly safe. Because leaving the house is 'suspicious'.
 
#13 · (Edited)
I'm gonna submit this --- and its gonna be a real general stereotyping -- so peeps - don't wig to much :D:

Everybody drinks & gets drunk --- yet the Irish are always singled out :xeye:

Everybody loves to save a buck --- yet Scotsmen are penny pinches :xeye:

Everybody drives bad -- yet when a Asian forgets to use their turn signal's :xeye:

Swiss = chocolate --

Italians = pizza --

Germans = conquer the world --

Jews = really thrifty & great in business ;)

Italy / Germany / Greenland = country's that have been around for a long time --

Now explain this :rolleyes:

Arrest rates -- who commits more crimes ?

Welfare -- what group is larger on it ?

Prisons -- who populates more ?

African country's change their names faster than I change my underwear --

Why ?
 
#12 ·
Speaking of BWB's --- a few years ago - an adult urbinite as picked up at the local high school -- he was hanging around the grounds with a big paper bag --

Ya ready ----












Bolt cutters sticking out of both ends :xeye:

One of the key-throwers ( security guards ) call the po-lise --- no bikes were taken ---- active warrants :thumb:
 
#15 ·
I don't understand why the cop shot him. I saw the black guy had felony feet the whole time. That's a condition where as a cop you recognize by the persons behavior that fight or flight is about to break out any minute. Usually it's a foot chase. The cop shot him though, which I'd love to hear the explanation to. Frankly, the cop may have simply screwed up, is about to get fired, put in jail and sued. I don't know.
 
#16 ·
I was taught in the academy... "WE DO NOT SHOOT FLEEING SUSPECTS." This came up during a block of instruction on escaped prisoners, in my state LEO & Corrections can shoot them while they are escaping. There is also the "fleeing felon rule" but our instructor told us "As police our goal is to bring a suspect to trial" and "WE DO NOT SHOOT FLEEING SUSPECTS."

I'm not sure what has changed in the training since I went through almost 20 years ago, but this idea of always reaching for the gun first has got to go. It may have something to do with the caliber of recruits, and the lowering of requirements, I don't know.

Remember there used to be height and weight requirements, in general people react differently based on an officers size. You aren't as likely to "mouth off" to an officer that is tall and in shape as you are to a dumpy one.

Also the "wars on drugs and terror" haven't done the people any favors as far as interaction with the state.

There are plenty of good cops out there, but if the system itself is the problem, then they become a moot point. In other words, an officer can be the nicest person in the world, but if he/she is handing your 16 year old child a felony marijuana charge that is going to follow them the rest of their lives, then manners don't really matter.
 
#22 ·
I had a friend who was leaving another friends house last summer in the late evening. As she drove down the block, a black guy on a bike whipped out from between two cars and she hit him, knocking him 20 feet down the road. She crushed his bike. She hit her OnStar button to get the police and called me on her cell since I live nearby. As she spoke to the 911 dispatcher, the guy got up and ran away. When I got there, there where at least 3 police cars. They filed a police report as an LSOA. The bike was seized (it was stolen) and a backpack with stolen items was found a few houses away. The city police believe he was doing car burglaries in the neighborhood.

Considering how fast she usually drives, he was lucky he didn’t end his crime spree right there.
 
#27 ·
Problem I had with it was the garbage we were expected to swallow to justify it. It was 'suspicious' as the cop didn't recognize his face. Really he knows every dark skinned person in town and can instantly recognize a stranger? And how is being unknown 'suspicious' to justify being stopped? If it was Russia okay 'show us your papers' but its not. I go visit friends and family in Fla all the time, Im not gonna justify my presence there to LE.

And he was riding 'suspiciously', again what exactly does that entail? Pedaling wrong, side saddle? Well it can't be quantified as its just made up. He got off 'suspiciously', again I did not know there was a correct way to get off a bike to entail there being a 'suspicious' way. I could then tell my son so he would know the nonsuspicious and proper way.

He was going to stop him to give him a ticket anyways, really this is what we hire police for, to enforce bicycle laws? Theres no other crime in the city? This is what keeps people up at night. We all know it was just an excuse to stop him and check him out, has to be up to something.

And of course the old he was reaching for his waist band, old faithful, end of the investigation.

I see many saying well if you don't run you don't have anything to fear, but from what I have seen black men have every reason to be afraid, run, don't run often the same end result. We want them to go get jobs, but leaving the house seems to be a risky proposition.
 
#34 ·
I think it behooves all of us to remember that the tactics used against "bad guys" could be used against any of us, no matter what color we are.

It's probably true that thieves use bicycles to case cars in certain neighborhoods.
Even if this guy was committing a crime, if he offered no violence, he should not have been gunned down.

It is a slippery slope to deprive even one American of their rights. No matter how much of a dirtbag they are, their rights are your rights. If they can be gunned down and their rights ignored -- no matter what race they are, one day you might share the same fate.
 
#38 ·
Just a few observations.

Tackleberry41, Yes cops enforce bicycle laws because they are LAWS. Might not happen as often as enforcement of motor vehicle laws, but it happens.

Value of that bike? Not much. It had a kickstand. Expensive bikes lack kick stands.

The guy dismounted that bike and moved rapidly TOWARDS the officer, maybe even aggressively. No justification for being shot, but there is no video of what the rapidly approaching bike rider was doing when he exited the view of the camera advancing on the officer.

Just my .02