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Remington says they’re moving to Georgia

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#1 ·
Moving their manufacturing from Ilion NY to Georgia. Weatherby moved to Wyoming. Magpul moved to Wyoming. What’s up with Remington? We’re not good enough?
 
#7 ·
Another Co NY forced out.
I went on a tour of the Ilion plant while in high school 50 some years ago.
My second shotgun was a model 11
 
#11 ·
Remington is no longer Remington, it is Rem Arms. Remington was bought out years ago (Freedom Group) and had changed ownership again. They had severe quality control issues before selling. I live in what used to be Remington country. Sold a lot of them in the shop. The old company and products were good and had a proud legacy. Gone now.

This state is hostile, we have closed shop. If the big guys can be sued by the AG then the little ones can be and are. If the AG doesn't have a criminal case, she will go the civil route. Less evidence needed.

Sadly parts for Remington are hard to come by. Sadly, about 7-800 good paying jobs are gone from this state. Sadly the legacy of a good product and company are done. Seems to be a trend.
 
#13 ·
Remington is no longer Remington, it is Rem Arms. Remington was bought out years ago (Freedom Group) and had changed ownership again. They had severe quality control issues before selling. I live in what used to be Remington country. Sold a lot of them in the shop. The old company and products were good and had a proud legacy. Gone now.

This state is hostile, we have closed shop. If the big guys can be sued by the AG then the little ones can be and are. If the AG doesn't have a criminal case, she will go the civil route. Less evidence needed.

Sadly parts for Remington are hard to come by. Sadly, about 7-800 good paying jobs are gone from this state. Sadly the legacy of a good product and company are done. Seems to be a trend.
Growing up [the first 70 years of childhood is always the hardest] pretty much all we used was Remington and Ithaca shotguns and rifles.
I see Ithaca also moved from NY. Model 37 was my 3rd shotgun, bought it 73. Wish I still had that one.
 
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This might ruffle some feathers. Good luck finding a workforce in Georgia. I grew up in New Jersey, did my career in Florida and am now retired in Tennessee. My experience is that in general the people that live in the Northeast have a more intense, driven work ethic bordering on fanatical. Florida was kind of middle of the road but getting more intense every year. Tennessee is pretty lackadaisical. They actually take pride in there leisurely ways. Show up when they show up, if they show up, their work is sloppy, standards are low, etc. I don't know, anecdotal experience at best I guess.

I just know that all the factories and businesses in my area are really struggling to fill positions and all the workers that I've come into contact with have that attitude I described.
 
#17 ·
The problem with blue states losing manufacturing is that they'll increasingly turn to the federal government for money to make up for their shortfalls in revenue.

Blue states will ramp up programs to provide for their unemployed constituents. Instead of them having a job and supporting themselves, you'll be supporting them through federal grants and subsidies.

The move to a free state may get a company out from under onerous and burdensome regulations, yet the cost of what they leave behind still gets passed along.
 
#27 ·
There are cultural differences among different regions of our country. Some subtle, some more profound. I remember as a young 20 year-old coal miner, our foreman would start each day with a prayer and shake hands with each miner before entering the mines. There was respect, camaraderie and a sense of purpose in our work. It was understood a mistake by one could be the end of all.
 
#31 ·
There is a ton of industry already in Georgia. They seem to have figured it out. Gulfstream, Glock, Tyson, Lockheed, Mohawk, Kia, Toyo, Coca-cola, GE, etc.
This might ruffle some feathers. Good luck finding a workforce in Georgia. I grew up in New Jersey, did my career in Florida and am now retired in Tennessee. My experience is that in general the people that live in the Northeast have a more intense, driven work ethic bordering on fanatical. Florida was kind of middle of the road but getting more intense every year. Tennessee is pretty lackadaisical. They actually take pride in there leisurely ways. Show up when they show up, if they show up, their work is sloppy, standards are low, etc. I don't know, anecdotal experience at best I guess.

I just know that all the factories and businesses in my area are really struggling to fill positions and all the workers that I've come into contact with have that attitude I described.
No feathers ruffled and I'm a Georgia resident, originally from Florida. I think your broad generalization is just that. There are a lot of willing workers here in Georgia. Are there shortages in technical fields? Of course there are like anywhere else. But the cost of living is reasonably low. The weather is good. State and local governments are business friendly. And Georgia is a right to work state. There are unions here but it's not mandatory an employee join any union to get a job. I retired here from a military career and always found work. Plus, education is affordable, and we have an excellent technical college program with state backed tuition assistance paid for by lottery winnings for Georgia residents. Course Catalog | Wiregrass Georgia Technical College
Plus there is Georgia Tech and many more to choose from. List of colleges and universities in Georgia (U.S. state) - Wikipedia

I only briefly thought about moving back to Tampa, my hometown after retiring from the military. Too many rude northerners willing to work for nothing and too much traffic due to...rude northern transplants. Georgia is growing too. MANY Florida residents are moving here, along with...rude northerners unfortunately. There are still great areas to live in Florida though. In my opinion, from Gainesville and above, centrally and heading towards the panhandle. To the West of Jacksonville is still good too...but growing fast.

There are also a LOT of retired military folks in Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina contributing education, great work ethics, attitude, and character to any employer.

Companies leaving Northern states is a no-brainer.
 
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No feathers ruffled and I'm a Georgia resident, originally from Florida. I think your broad generalization is just that. There are a lot of willing workers here in Georgia. Are there shortages in technical fields? Of course there are like anywhere else. But the cost of living is reasonably low. The weather is good. State and local governments are business friendly. And Georgia is a right to work state. There are unions here but it's not mandatory an employee join any union to get a job. I retired here from a military career and always found work. Plus, education is affordable, and we have an excellent technical college program with state backed tuition assistance paid for by lottery winnings for Georgia residents. Course Catalog | Wiregrass Georgia Technical College
Plus there is Georgia Tech and many more to choose from. List of colleges and universities in Georgia (U.S. state) - Wikipedia

I only briefly thought about moving back to Tampa, my hometown after retiring from the military. Too many rude northerners willing to work for nothing and too much traffic due to...rude northern transplants. Georgia is growing too. MANY Florida residents are moving here, along with...rude northerners unfortunately. There are still great areas to live in Florida though. In my opinion, from Gainesville and above, centrally and heading towards the panhandle. To the West of Jacksonville is still good too...but growing fast.

There are also a LOT of retired military folks in Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina contributing education, great work ethics, attitude, and character to any employer.

Companies leaving Northern states is a no-brainer.
My experience has been Northern rudeness is often conflated with how they interact in a direct, poignant and terse fashion.

For example, it's not at all uncommon for me to be waiting in a long checkout line at the Tennessee supermarket while the cashier is having a long-winded, Southern hospitality conversation with their customer.

That's definitely a cultural difference that either side could view as rude.
 
#35 ·
Same here... have watched other businesses move south... Have worked in them in both locations...

I hope that they can find a quality workforce, a skilled workforce, a productive workforce, and a workforce that actually shows up.

But, with the open borders, there are plenty of hungry people willing to toil 24/7 for the dream that all local whiners/complainers forgot about. Whether they can read/write, do math, or run a forge, mill, extruder, grinder, press, lathe...

For example, we hired 100 to get less than a dozen so-called good workers. Those numbers won't sustain manufacturing/production. Our training/hiring/HR budget was thru the roof and attrition was excessive. And, it had nothing to do with the industry. It had everything to do with lazy snowflaked employees. The only way to keep a workforce is to track industry closing and hit the area with recruiters hoping to relocate as many as possible that were used to producing.

I am expecting assemblers with all parts contracted out all over the place. Good luck with the quality.