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Raising Chickens 101, according to me.....

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Like the title says, this is according to me. After searching the forum, I could not find a thread that really takes the time to lay out a basic primer on how to raise chickens. This is not the do all, end all on how to raise them, but it is the way I do it, and it is something that you can take at face value and run with.

But be warned, chicks can worm their way into your life. I say this with a pet chicken named Jody who lives in a brooder in my office. She coos, trills, and is just fun to have around. She is the only one to hatch out of twelve eggs, so she is growing up in the house. Kind of like 'chicken TV'.....


DO YOUR RESEARCH, PICK YOUR CHOOKS

So you decide you want to raise chickens. If you see them at the feed store, running around in those tubs, cheeping and exuding cuteness, you are probably already hooked. You will be raising chickens.

But before you start, do a little research. Do you want eggs, or meat, or both? Check out this link, it is excellent for breeds, egg color, purpose, etc.

http://www.ithaca.edu/staff/jhenderson/chooks/chickens.html

This link is excellent for all-around information, and some specialty info. DO NOT CLICK ON THE 'SILKIES' LINKS. SILKIES ARE EVIL, THEY WILL STEAL YOUR HEART, THEY WANT TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD. Really. They do.

http://www.poultryhelp.com/link-breeds.html

The following link will hook you on chickens. This forum is one of the best for learning everything you need to know, and the search function is friendly.

http://www.backyardchickens.com/

(But please read this short paragraph. I will tell you of the Cornish Cross, my friends. They are meat birds that will be table ready in around 8 weeks. 8 WEEKS. Sounds good, right? Well, unless you are set up to grow and havest this breed, and I mean knowledge and skills, I would pass them by and learn with the other breeds first. Most hens start laying between 5 and 7 months, and are ready to send to Freezer Camp at around a year old. Cornish Cross birds are what you get at KFC, and in the store. But they are best left until you are accomplished at raising chickens. Others may tell you different, but just trust me on this one.)

Peruse the list, take your time to ooh and ahh over all the different types of birds, and what they are best used for. Do you only want white eggs, or specifically brown eggs? Flighty or Friendly? Cold hardy, or best suited for warmer climates? How much room in the coop do I need? Should I coop all the time, free range, or pasture range? What predators do I have in my area, and can I protect my flock? Think about all of these things while researching, but DO NOT GET DISCOURAGED. I pasture range, and have had no problems so far. I expect I will, eventually, and I will accomodate. If things happen, you CAN fix them.

I really do not like any kind of black chicken. At all. So while I have Black Australorps, they are for selling chicks or hatching eggs. My husband likes white chickens, so we have Rhode Island Whites, good for meat and for eggs.

But for all around producers of meat and eggs, my choice would be Barred Rocks, Cuckoo Marans, Rhode Island Reds, and White Leghorns.

For the pretty blue and green eggs, Easter Eggers (commonly sold as Ameraucana by hatcheries).

4 to 6 hens will give you around 4 eggs a day. During optimum time, not counting the moult and whether or not you run lights during the winter. More chickens mean more eggs, of course. Use the extras to give away, or sell to co-workers.

This is also a commitment. Unless you have someone to look after your flock, long vacations are out. While they can feed themselves fairly well, the chickens look to you for food, water, and shelter.


RAISING YOUR CHICKS, THE BEGINNING

Now you have decided which chicks to buy, now let's figure out what you need to raise them.

Let's get them their first home. I use Rubbermaid containers, deep and easy to clean. A cardboard box will work just as well, or any container tall enough to keep the chickies inside. For the first few days, I line the floor of the container with paper towels. DO NOT USE NEWSPAPER!!!!! It is too slick, and the chicks might develop 'straddle legs' from trying to maintain balance on the slippery surface. Some folks use kitchen hand towels, but I am lazy; I would rather throw away than wash. Chickies poo a lot.

Next, they will need water. Basics. For newly hatched chicks, a small bowl will work for a week or so. Just find a small bowl, fill it about 3/4 full of small rocks or marbles, then add water. The chicks will drink, but not be able to fall in and drown. Which they will, babies are bright but not overly so. Tip a chick's head so its beak touches the water. They will get the idea, and the others will learn from them.

Chick food. Here is where puritans and practical folks might disagree. I do not use medicated feed. Others do. It is a personal choice, do some reading on the web. I sprinkle the chick food sparingly on the paper towels, they will peck at everything. They get the idea real quick.

The new babies need heat, and the best source is an infra-red heat lamp in one of those clamp on lamps. Just clamp it (safely) onto the side of your container, and turn it on. You need a little thermometer to get the temp just right. The temp is regulated by raising or lowering the heat lamp. 95 to 100 degrees for the first three or four weeks, then go down by 5 degrees per week. By the time you get to around 70 to 75 degrees, they are getting feathers and will keep warm by themselves. Spring is the best time to get chicks, as the weather will co-operate more and not have cold snaps and such.

Observe your new babies. They will cheep loud and long if they are cold, wandering all over the floor. In this case, lower the heat. If they are huddled in the corner nearest the light, they are cold. Lower the light. If they are huddled in the corner away from the light, they are too hot. Raise the light. I like to keep the light closest to the end away from food and water. Not everyone likes warm food and water.

After the first week or so, graduate to feeder and waterer bases that screw into pint canning jars. As they get older, and you are refilling feeders too much to be fun, graduate to the quart size jars. It is also time to get rid of the paper towels, and move to pine shavings. The shavings are safe for the chicks, and will help with the smell of chick poo. I use a pretty thick layer, and add as needed. Others just love to change a shallow bed of shavings twice a week or so. Not me, as I said before, I am lazy.

One other note, if they chicks are fouling their food and water with shavings, use a couple of boards to put the feeder/waterer on. It raises them, and makes it harder for the chicks to kick shavings into them.

Play with your chickies, take pictures, teach your real kids how to handle safely. Or just ignore them, raise them for the egg/meat machines that they are, no socializing. I challenge you, go ahead and try. Even the most grumpy, grouchy, antisocial folks smile at chickies. Have fun, and enjoy.


TEENAGERS AND BEYOND

So now the cute chickies are in the teenager stage. Ughh. They are not cute anymore, kind of scraggly looking, wearing their 'in-between' feathers. 2 or 3 months old, and they need more room. Probably should have been in a bigger space before now anyway, and maybe you have put them in a bigger box, or even separated them into several boxes. That's good, good for you. And their diet is changing. First, the food, then the coop......

It is time to change to grower feed, which is basically chick food on steroids. It is nutritionally enhanced for growing chickens. It is more expensive, and around where I live, hard to find. So when I need to, I keep using chick feed, with 'treats'. Fruits, veggies, worms and bugs, leftovers, popcorn, you get the idea. The treats are just that, treats. Don't try to feed them from the kitchen exclusively, they will not get the nutrients they need. Unless you have no other choice, I advise you to keep feeding good, basic chick feed.

And since they are going to be eating food that is not just crumbly and easily digestible, now is the time to introduce 'chick grit'. This is tiny rock/sand that chicks eat, and it rests in the gizzard to grind up any food that is not soft enough to be digested directly. So if the chicks are getting chick feed, or egg yolks, or yoghurt, or other soft food, they don't need grit. But I have yet to hear of a chicken lover that does not want to feed treats, so you need grit.

Grit is 'offered freely', meaning that if you leave a dish of grit out, the chicks will eat what the need to digest their food. My ding-a-ling chicks will eat the whole dish like it is food. So I give them a dish of grit a couple of times a week. Grit can be purchased, or you can sift out tiny rocks and sand instead. I like the store bought, it is cheap and lasts a long time. When they get bigger, they will pick up small pebbles and rocks outside, on their own. If they are 'cooped up', you have to make it available.

So, what kind of treats? Clover leaves, chopped up grass, veggies (raw or cooked), leftovers, almost anything. Backyard Chickens is one of the best site to research, and they actually have a treat chart. Cut up grapes (I cut them up 'cause they eat everything whole) are a favorite, as are boiled eggs. If you can eat it, more than likely they can too.

Here is what I DON'T feed them. Onions, garlic, seafood, or plants I will not eat. Like I said before, with a twist, if you can't eat it, don't feed it to the chickens. My all time favorite is popcorn. And specifically, Lady Finger popcorn. It pops to half the size of regular popcorn, just the right size. And, spaghetti! This is dinner and a show, cook up a mess of it and toss into the yard. Let the games begin!

So, now they are going to move into a brooder. This is basically a wire cage. Basically. Use the basic '2x2 per bird', but no smaller than this, because NOW YOU NEED A COOP. The brooder box is a temporary place to keep them til you get the coop built. And you should have been planning this from the beginning, their permanent home. I guess I should have warned you.....

Have food, water, roost, and curious chickens watching from the brooder while you build their coop. The brooders can be cleaned and re-used as little quarantine areas, hospital room, overflow area, etc. They can be kept for emergencies, like, 'oh look. pullets on craigslist need a home'.

Now for the coop. The best way to think of a coop is a shed with nest boxes and a perch. Room for them to scratch around for the treats you toss them, singles bar to meet and greet, fast food restaurant, and nighty-night bedroom. It is their home, a dormitory really, and it needs to be dry, ventilated, warm/cool depending on the season, and SAFE. The coop can be fairly small, it there is a 'chicken run' attached for them to run around in, or you are going to pasture your birds. The coop should be large if you are going to only let your chickens out for short periods on time. It all depends on how much time they are stuck in it.

Google is your friend. Also, go to http://www.backyardchickens.com/coopdesigns.html to see all kinds of coops. I am not going into detail on purpose. A coop is a personal thing, you need to build to the specs you can afford. Some folks buy ready made, some use quality material to make chick-mansions, and some use scrap wood and pallets. As long as they are safe, they will be happy.

I have pastured birds, which means they are let out in the morning, and come into the coop to sleep at night. For 16 birds, including the 2 roos, my coop is 6x12, which is small. But all they do there is roost for the night.

I will give you the plans for my segregated coops. There is the coop, which is 4x4 with a sloping roof 3' at one end and 4' at the high end. This coop houses 4 hens and their roo-daddy. There is an attached run 4x12x4. This is where they spend most of their day. Their food and water is in the run, and nesting boxes and roost are in the coop.

Like I said, you build what you can afford. I suggest you use hanging waterers and feeders, only because it will minimize waste and wet. Or design your own.

One more thing about coops and runs. The wild world is your friend, but it is also your worst enemy. You are responsible for protecting your feathered friends. And you have to be serious about it. The coop needs to be predator proof. Opossums, racoons, rats, snakes, the friendly neighborhood dogs and cats, these are now your enemies. 'Chicken wire' is a misnomer. It will keep chickens in. It won't keep predators out. You need to use hardware cloth anywhere that you are separating your birds from the outside world. There are several sizes, just make sure the squares are small. And in the run, bury it at least 6" deep, bending it towards the inside of the run underground is even better.

These are the basics of feeding and coop construction. Research will make you smarter.

Cheri
 
#2 ·
Good post. I'd commend to your reading list Joel Salatin's book on pastured poultry, because it offers a different slant on the process. One of the neighbor ladies has taken in his notions, and is using a moveable chicken coop and chicken runs so that she can relocate her birds to fresh ground ( and grass), which keeps the need for antibiotics down. She favors organic methods, though she ain't fanatic about it....
 
#3 ·
We also raise chickens......I'd say it's a regional thing, afa what, how, why and who.....Also, pics come in handy.......

This is what we started with
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Then built a coop
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And have chickens like this
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Then got a incubator
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And hatched some more chickens
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Then built a brooder for the chicks out of an old kitchen cabinet
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Then they grow up and go outside
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#7 ·
Well done! I do much the same, but there is one thing I don't agree with at all.

When building the fence, turn the bottom 6 " outwards. This is because the neighbours' dogs, the fox, whatever you happen to have going, will come up with nose to the fence, look directly down, and start digging. A 6" tunnel is a piece of cake, but if they start digging at the bottom of the fence, and all they get is wire, then a couple rough scrapes will take the skin off their paws and they'll dance around a bit and then go look elsewhere. I suppose one could put wire both directions, but that's abit of overkill, no? Besides, the chickens won't be trying to tunnel out - they'll use every single other remote possibility to get out. But they're not up to digging tunnels.
 
#12 ·
I forgot to put that in, thanks for posting. After one coon took out 13 of my chickens n two nights (clawed the roos eyes and then killed the hens) I am thinking of burying glass about 4 inches deep all the way around. I was that mad. Lost my French Black Copper marans, and my Buttercups, i was so mad.

Cheri
 
#9 ·
That's quite a post, Cheri! Thanks.

I have found that even my city friend was able to raise chickens in the city. Most towns allow chickens if they are not free range. He built a heck of a coup and fenced in part of his yard. He let them out after work each day to enjoy watching as they hunted insects and eating vegetation to provide for that brilliant orange yolk.

If you have a place with enough room for a coop/barn and some fencing check your local ordinance of raising them. The eggs are so superior to store bought eggs that we simply do not eat eggs when there are no free range eggs.

Goats and donkeys share the space and they all get along very good. The bigger animals keep predators out of the roosting areas.

If you have a larger place you might consider a "chicken tractor." This is a fairly large pen and laying area that is on wheels. When the chickens eat most of the vegetation simply roll the cage to fresh grass. In this manner you'll have free range birds eating vegetation and insects that are protected from predators! The best of both worlds. Google "chicken tractor" for a huge list of sites showing off their handiwork in building a chicken tractor.

Feeding is a chore. I waited until after Xmas last year and bought a deer feeder at 30% off. This holds 150 pounds (3 bags) of whatever feed you want to feed. It can be set to put out just the right amount however many times you want it to go off per day. This helps them keep from straying off too close to my dogs, which have been their biggest threat.
 
#10 ·
I should have read the whole thread. I see tractor cages were mentioned.

I went with Australorps, which are large birds that lay large brown eggs.

They aren't good at raising chicks, so I pick up eggs and incubate them to keep resupply coming.
 
#18 ·
Good thread thanks for the post CheriG22. I'm fairly new at raising chickens, had my flock of 9 hens and a rooster for a bit over a year now. I've found chickens to be a very practical livestock to keep. I sell my eggs to people at work and my wifes work for $2.50
a dozen and I can't keep up with demand! Pretty much pays for my feed but I just stuff they money in a cookie tin for a rainy day. I let my chickens free range when I'm out and about otherwise they are in a stationary coop with a well caged in run. One of the best things I've done is to put in an automatic chicken coop door that opens and closes on a timer. It's a homemade job made from a $15 cordless screwdriver and a couple of power supplies and some limit switches. Chickens take daily care but the automatic door makes it much easier.
 
#30 ·
:( we dispatched our first chickens this weekend. They are now in the fridge.

Does it get any easier doing that?

I chopped the heads of 2 ( old, stopped laying) hens with an ax. They still flopped for a while, and I felt bad, but it needed to be done. Husband held them while I chopped. Son told us in no uncertain terms he absolutely did not want to watch and hid in his room ( he's 17). I dipped them in boiling water for a few seconds in the turkey fryer, and plugged the feathers. Found out I really need some good butcher knifes when I started taking out the insides ( heart, liver , kidneys got sort of mutilated, so I just tossed the whole mess out). Afterwards I felt exhausted, and like I needed a shot of bourbon...

( I have done this before on my aunt's farm when I was a kid, but it's no easier as an adult)

We started discussing what it will be like with larger animals like the sheep we plan on getting. I think I might just shot them, is that acceptable?
 
#23 ·
Cheri, thanks so much for posting! I really enjoyed reading it, it made me smile! I am about to purchase a home in rural Missouri and am planning to build a coop as soon as I get there. I have never raised chickens before, luckily my father in-law has lots of experience and he is only gonna be 20 minutes away lol. Great informative post, one of the best I have read in a while! Could you possibly post pictures of your set up for me?
 
#24 ·
something to keep in mind is that R.I.R.'s are not the most efficiant when compared to other multi purpouse breeds. they spend so much time picking and running they burn more feed than rocks for the same in meat and eggs. I keep them for range broiler crosses but the average flock looking to maximise their production might want to rethink the reds.
 
#26 ·
I had 16 chickens (black australorps) 11 hens and 5 roosters they are 19 weeks old tomorrow (atleast that's the guess based on when they were shipped). I put 3 of the roosters in the freezer today, that was a first for me and it went pretty smoothly I watched the featherman equiptment videos multiple times to get an idea of what to do. I used an old traffic cone cut down so their heads would stick out and then I cut the arterys on the side of the neck. That is harder than it looks and boy does the knife have to be sharp. I had the knives probably sharper than they've ever been and it wasn't good enough, but the knives are very low quality. I probably would have gotten more meat on these roosters if I had let them go a while longer, but I was getting tired of the 5 man chior in the morning and figured 2 would be less obnoxious than 5. I'm hopping the girls start laying soon.