I work at a K-6 school district and I don't have much hope for any of the teacher types surviving for long, honestly.

 

well, we will all have time for home schooling.

90% of the kids will be better off not attending those multi-culti junk piles, good for nothing but turning out good little socialists and america-haters. :thumb:

 

The majority of teachers are competant and are doing their best with a very limited resource set. If SHTF these people will likely continue to do their jobs with even less. We are talking about a very professional group. :thumb:

 

Well, we may very well have some excellent teachers out there, but we have by far a HUGE number of parents who would just rather not be bothered. They'll be in for a rude awakening, huh?

 

I think parents would flip if the public school system failed. I mean <gasp> parents would have to actually deal with their kids...for once! Not to lump all the parents into one pile but most parents these days don't give a crap about their kids education or about their own children. I am a public school teacher for middle school...I love my job and my students. For the record I don't turn out a bunch of socialistic brats. I actually try and teach them to make the world a better place and care about themselves and others. Sorry but most parents don't care about their kids they just don't want to deal with them. I think their would be an upraising if parents had to be home all day with their spawn! Just my opinion......

Hippie Chick

 

Its a good thing that McDonald's has pictures of food on the cash register...

 

oh Lordy, the school system is already in the toilet...may it slip quietly into the bowels of the earth.

This is nothing against teachers, I know they must teach within the confines of what they are told to teach. So I don't blame them. I think they do a thankless job. God love 'em.

The bar on the education system is so low right now a gnat could crawl under it and get a diploma.

 

The bar on the education system is so low right now a gnat could crawl under it and get a diploma.

You can get a diploma/degree right here, right now for free! Pick your major!

http://www.templaruniversity.com/index.html

 

improvement we can't get worse they are.Kids will learn a real lesson in life.

 

We got our kids out of that system a number of years ago. We are blessed to be able to homeschool our 4 kids. We have, though, experienced both public and private schools. ALL of the teachers we have worked with have been outstanding teachers and wonderful human beings. Unfortunately the system they work within and the unions they are forced to belong to have wreaked havoc on education. My hope is that after TSHTF many institutions, including public education, will get rebuilt from the ground up. I suppose I am hopeful about the long run although the near term is surely going to rain pain upon us all.

 

PUBLIC EDUCATION after SHTF

It wouldn't matter it's f-up now!!

 

I happen to have several teachers in my family, some of them are excellent while a couple are not so good. The problem isnt with the teachers for the most part. It is with the people that set policy. When the policy makers insist that ALL students need the same treatment all they do is lower the standard to the least common denominator while screwing the smart kids. The system could be saved by simply recognizing that the world needs ditch diggers too and start sending the stupid ones/trouble makers to trade schools to learn a skill, or boot them out. That way the good kids can begin to excell again.

 

It is with the people that set policy. When the policy makers insist that ALL students need the same treatment all they do is lower the standard to the least common denominator while screwing the smart kids. The system could be saved by simply recognizing that the world needs ditch diggers too and start sending the stupid ones/trouble makers to trade schools to learn a skill, or boot them out. That way the good kids can begin to excell again.

Absolutely.
My cousin just retired from a Northern Cal. District as of the first of this month and said about half the time when he tried to contact parents he got zero reply. The ones who did bother were surly and stupid. Just like their kids. He actually had parents complain that it was the schools fault the kids acted the way they did ! ? !
About 2% responded and actually acted interested.
He said parent/teacher night was a lonely affair.
He was involved in the PTA for a while until it became a huge gimme fest.

 

Personally if the Schools close I believe 40% of the students will steal everyone blind. Whats worse is they will most likely take pics with the cell phones they stole from you of them stealing yer' sheet.

 

I actually bought a set of 5 Student Handbooks several years ago for @$250. After buying them, I thought I got ripped off. But there have been several occasions, where we've had to pull them out and put them to use. So, I would say they were priced about right. I know they could get on internet and look most of the stuff up, but I already paid for them.

Now, as for the school system, it makes my heart sink. I know there are great schools & great teachers out there, but unfortunately, not where I live. I have 2 children, and they are on opposite ends of the education spectrum. My son, going into his year, was making 4 F's with 4 weeks of school left. He passed with the 4 lowest D's you can get. And never once brought a book or homework home. i.e. They are just getting him out of there. Not a trouble maker, he just can't get a grasp on school, no matter how much I tried. I guess the school sees this and just pushed him forward. I'm aggravated about it, but I guess in a way I'm happy too, at least he'll get his diploma.

My daughter, on the other hand, is going into her sophmore year. She had to go into the junior Algebra class and help teach. Everyone said the teacher was having a hard time explaining it to the students, so they brought her in to simplify it for them. Classes the school didn't teach, that she would need for college, she had to go online and take. We got a phone call from one of her teachers, 3 weeks after school let out, said they were having trouble scheduling her classes for the upcoming year. I asked what the problem was. She then exclaimed that they haven't had any sophmores ask for classes this advanced before. I asked if they had the classes and had any room in them. She said yes. I said, put her in them, if that's what she wants. She does her homework, and studies to a certain degree, but for the most part, she's one of the lucky ones who just soaks up information easily. I guess if the SHTF, I'll give her the Student Handbooks, and have her teach my nieces and nephews, who are all still fairly young.

I don't know if it's the teachers, the school, or the system, but things are screwed up somewhere. That's my rant.

 

... Well- it can't get much worse than it is already... If TS hitting TF causes the much-needed changes and reform of our education system, well.... Yippee! :upsidedown:

 

My wife comes from a long line of teachers and my sister was also a teacher. Both taught 4th grade. My sister in Texas quit this year after moving down there from TN. She loved teaching military kids in TN b/c, generally, they were either motivated or knew that motivation would be dished out at home. She moved to TX and taught many (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt) "immigrant" children. She was worn out from trying to do things right and not just act like a babysitter. From this I told her "ignorance breeds ignorance". Kids are like blank slates and NEED guidance and instruction and discipline. If that is not reinforced at home then all is for naught. My wife is the best teacher I know: Seriously, she is raved by teachers/parents and student's alike. She teaches them the spoon fed district curriculum crap BUT in addition she teaches them real life lessons to be internalized as well. Such as how to be respectful, resourceful and the joy in learning. Fortunately she has a principle that is strong and can handle all the soap opera parent stuff and make them and their kids responsible for themselves. I can not tell you how much a strong principle is in creating a staff that is responsible to themselves and children. She has had meek and kow-towing principles in the past. This is a recipe for disaster. Lastly, I would recommend everyone view 2,000,000 minutes. It is a movie comparing 4 families with children from 4 different countries. No wonder our country is in trouble. It is all about priorities. Children's parents in China actually go to spelling bees and math competitions and cheer for their children. Too much emphasis is placed on sports in our country. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy sports and my children all play organized sports but come on. When you go to TX and see high school football stadiums that look like college stadiums something is out of wack. My wife has her masters in education technology and gets a $750 stipend per year for helping her school implement curriculum and technology in the classroom. In contrast, the high school cheer leading coach gets $4500. Anyways the system is broke and fortunately my children have their mother and I to supplement their education.

 

I'm a public school teacher.

Oddly enough, I've been prepping to be a privately paid teacher when/if it becomes necessary. I'm no where near ready for that since I mostly just grab free stuff when I can but I have lots of children's books and school supplies. I'm guessing that some children will go uneducated and some will start going to small home-schools or be taught by their parents as much as they can.

Octavia Butler wrote a book called "Parable of the Sower" where she talks about how they had a sort of neighborhood school for a few hours a day at her house. It's a great apocalypse, SHTF type book if you haven't read it.

 

I am a former public school teacher who had the opportunity to leave that system and homeschool my 2 youngest...I swear its awesome..

Most teachers are so underpaid that if shtf and public schools were still open, I'm not sure how many would continue to put up with all the cr@p you have to put up with from the bureaucracy.

I'm truly dismayed however that my sil called me a while back and asked me how to do percentages for her sons 7th grade math.....she is a teacher too....oi.

 

I'm truly dismayed however that my sil called me a while back and asked me how to do percentages for her sons 7th grade math.....she is a teacher too....oi.

... She's not a math teacher, is she? :upsidedown::xeye:

 

My wife and I are blessed to be able to homeschool our children. While we had planned to homeschool, our oldest daughter kicked things off when she was 3. We had taught her the ABCs and 123s, and before we knew it she was copying books and our handwriting. We figured that if at age 3 she was capable of that we'd start her in K5 the following year. She's now 6 and entering 2nd grade(Public schools wouldn't have accepted her until last year due to the birthday cutoff)

So personally it would be no loss when public schools go away, their 'put everybody in the same mold' system wouldn't work for us anyway.

 

Teachers have a hard time and I don't blame them. That would be like blaming soldiers for wars. Or guns for murders.

Now granted I am not happy with my sons teachers, however its not because of their lack of performance. What I don't like is that he can barely read leaving Kindergarten. I expected more from a private school.

Then again I didn't think he would come home and tell me 3 weeks after Obama became elected that he is the best president.

So here is where we stand. They do 40% of the teaching our children need. They fill the rest with programming, and Religion. The religion happens to be Modern Media, Politics, and Darwinism Atheism. Now if I was an Atheist, I would have no problem with that. Actually I probably still would. The parents should be the major contributor to a child's religion, not a public official.

As a parents Its my job to go behind and clean up what the teachers have taught him. He doesn't need to know that Abe Lincoln was a great president. He wasn't. He was one of the first really bad ones. Possibly the worst one in the History of America. My son doesn't need to know that Obama, or any other political leader is good or bad. He is 6. Everyone should be good. The kid can worry about that latter.

But thats the problem. We don't just teach our kids math and science anymore. The program them with propaganda. The teachers are forced to follow rules in a system made by evil men. So any way you slice it, the teachers can't apropriately teach our children.

My son learns more from me and my wife, then from any teacher. They always would say how bright he was, how he is at the top of his class. That ticks me off. As survivalists here, we all know work. Yet again we live in a world where people crap on our freedoms and reward/expect lazy people.

 

The end of "public" ("government") education would be one of the few benefits of TEOTWAWKI.

- OS

 

I taught high school for several years and enjoyed the kids, but hated the bureaucracy. Babysitting was my responsibility, as well as teaching and re-teaching to the lowest and slowest, while pulling my hair out trying to find ways to keep advanced students advancing.

The money waste is amazing. I was a department chair, and I can't tell you how many times my principal frantically insisted that I find a way to spend X amount of dollars by a certain deadline. Usually I would say "but we've got everything we need," to which he would reply, "but you have to spend the money or we'll lose the grant for next year."

It was looking into the eyes of the children in S. Cali that I knew, I mean really knew in my heart that SHTF big-time coming soon. The culture is unraveling so fast down there. We have failed them. It is so hard to teach when what the kids need so bad is nurture, attention, and parenting. So many are so lost.

Public education, more harm than good? Perhaps. But one thing is for certain. Post SHTF education needs to teach post SHTF skills. How to put a worm on a hook or skin a deer are going to be MUCH more relevant than citing sources on a research paper...

 

Suggestion to the good teachers here.

Find a way to keep a good collection of school books at your home and take them with you if you must bug out. Six copies each if you can. After the crisis, after the terror and famine, when it comes time to rebuild we will need you.

We will need the teachers, the engineers, the mechanics, carpenters, farmers, and others that work at real jobs.

 

Could it get worse, ever looked at my spelling in my posts.

 

I homeschool and teach at the local college, I still make spelling mistakes-we're all human you know!:thumb:

It will be OK.:

 

Kids will get the ultimate home schooling- survival farming/hunting/foraging during the day, the classics at night.