Drawing down on a person with a loaded gun is evidence of the police officer's willingness to shoot that person. You NEVER point a loaded gun at someone that you don't accept the possibility of shooting, even if by accident or reflex.

Police and the state are way out of control. They don't care about people anymore:

http://www.familysurvivalcenter.com/security.htm#police

I guess if you aren't in uniform you are the enemy.

 

That story hits way too close to home .... We had a roommate earlier this year. She was separated from her boyfriend, while they were trying to work things out. Her boyfriend came over early one morning, because he had tried to call her, but she didn't answer the phone.

He thought she was using illegal drugs, and called 911. The police came out first, and searched through our home for illegal drugs, found her medicine and were treating this lady like she was a criminal!

She was taking some kind of pain medication, but was definitely not a druggy! She was my roommate, and I saw her everyday, and so did my boys. There was nothing wrong with her, except that she had serious medical issues and using prescription medication ....

I'm surprised the police didn't find my pain medication (vicodine and more!). They had dogs searching all around our house, like my house was a drug lab or something ....

Wonder what would have happened if I had refused to allow the police to search my home .....

 

so whats the complaint?
folks in california are getting the government they want,right?
i mean nobody cares about organic food stores there,only the stores that sell the dope.
so chill dude,share some smoke with the ol'e lady and dont worry about it.........

 

so whats the complaint?
folks in california are getting the government they want,right?

Good point. CA cannot seem to elect a conservative, no matter how big and intrusive the government gets.

In any case, the bureaucrats and police are essentially just enforcers for industrial agriculture, masquerading as public health officials. They know that small, independent farms and dairies are (and always have been) the bedrock of liberty in this country. That is why they are the first ones targeted by a repressive government. Although I suspect many of the police would be appalled if they understood what was going on and how they are being used as tools.

The idea that a hardworking, taxpaying, responsible adult cannot choose to purchase and consume raw milk is just plain offensive.

 

That's pretty sad. POLICE EPIC FAIL!!!!

 

The cops have lost the last little bit of common sense that might have been there residually ...

 

Better get used to it is all i can say.

 

Better get used to it? Well the brain washing and programming has worked on you, not me. I will not get used to it, the Cops are not your friends.

 

Put the Organic milk and huney down be for i put 2 in your ass Im a Police officer You will respect my authoritaaaaa

 

well, they are selling items that are not allowed to be sold under laws in not only that cheesy state but the entire US as well...

you break the laws... you get nailed... deliberate intent to violate the law gains no sympathy with me...
they clearly know better...

 

But guns drawn Really If i jaywalk im not expecting cops to draw on me

 

of course,,, standard Op... they have no idea what the old hippies are gonna dfo... it has not been that long since many of tthose same old hippies were part of assorted groups like the weather underground..... so they are fully within their rights to do so... it is a shame, yes, But not within anything that could be considered extreme or illegal...

 

This is nothing new...

Here in the Midwest, which use to be the dairy capital…but CA/FL are 1 and 2 now. There is a growing raw milk underground. It is the “organic” crowd that is buying the milk, but the states that ban it are using the same tactics like in your article.

I have heard in other states that dairy farmers are turning in their neighbors that sell raw milk.

 

Here in the Midwest, which use to be the dairy capital…but CA/FL are 1 and 2 now. There is a growing raw milk underground. It is the “organic” crowd that is buying the milk, but the states that ban it are using the same tactics like in your article.

I have heard in other states that dairy farmers are turning in their neighbors that sell raw milk.

The police raided a omish farm for selling unprocessed milk.

 

its a dog eat dog world kinda ****ing sad

 

If cops rushed a store i was in guns drawn It would put a whole bad mind set into play I dont do well with guns pointed at me

 

I never have either... but i am gonna damn sure set down and shut my mouth... and politely say ..."Yes sir and No sir"..

I have a problem with intimidation in the first place... so it might take a little doing on my part, but i think I could adjust rather quickly...at least for the present moment.

 

good enough...I will retain judgement on you... oh hell, let er ride... water under the bridge...

but because of a bad cop or two , don't link em all in the same basket, because they are not all that way...

 

MOST are not that way. Most are polite but as firm and as rough as they have to be. At least where I live. They are my neighbors, relatives, and friends, some of them. But they do get cynical if they work mostly with creeps, smart a**ses, and druggies all day every day. Going in with guns drawn to arrest raw milk sellers is definitely over the top, though. Maybe that's their orders.

 

I get commercials in Virginia all the time about how I ought to be eating cheese from California. And someone's paying for those ads. I suspect there are cheese factories out there who have the big bucks and they're using the power of the state to quash competition. If the cops are showing up with guns drawn, and without any reason to suspect any threat of imminent serious bodily injury, that's good for a civil suit for assault and intentional infliction of emotional distress where I live.

 

The thuggery of the state on display for all to see.

 

What a sad event. We need to take every law on the book and wipe it clean and start over.

 

This is exactly how communist states handle people that challenge the state.... We all know Kalifornia is a communist state so nothing here to look at, just move along.
Kalifornians want communism, I say let them have it :thumb:

 

Actually what's going on in cali is a bunch of illegal ignorants who buy a stall from some guy who owns a parking lot, advertise as being organic on 'farmer's day' with fancy signs, and yet when you go to the location of where this "organic" food is said to be growing, there's nothing there. So basically they buy from costco or whatever and then scam people for food at prices higher than if they had just went to a regular grocery store. I hope they get shot. So far they are being fined and now banned permanently but considering how many of these cockroaches exist, I'm sure they'll just change their face and be back at it the following week.
They need to ban the farm locations and to hell with the vendors unless proof is evidenced. The 'farmers' should be forced to pay for an independent source that drives out and takes pictures as proof. If they can pull the stuff and haul it they can sure as hell be made to prove it's actually organic. A store owner is no different from the guy who rents his space for a day or 2. He should be fined just as much for each offender. And preferably shot if he's a repeater. I hate liars and thieves.

What is lousy is the fact we have to go to such lengths to get anything clean to begin with and then you got these jerks who want to scam you for it. Sometimes the threat of violence is better than the actual violence. The police know this all too well.

 

So far they are being fined and now banned permanently but considering how many of these cockroaches exist, I'm sure they'll just change their face and be back at it the following week.
They need to ban the farm locations and to hell with the vendors unless proof is evidenced. The 'farmers' should be forced to pay for an independent source that drives out and takes pictures as proof. If they can pull the stuff and haul it they can sure as hell be made to prove it's actually organic. A store owner is no different from the guy who rents his space for a day or 2. He should be fined just as much for each offender. And preferably shot if he's a repeater. I hate liars and thieves.

What is lousy is the fact we have to go to such lengths to get anything clean to begin with and then you got these jerks who want to scam you for it. Sometimes the threat of violence is better than the actual violence. The police know this all too well.

They are debating pending legislation that would cure this ... it's called S 510.

 

Lets see the government won't let you buy raw milk but will let you buy tobbaco products.

 

You don't feed infants and small children tobacco ... do you?

 

Now Now....those cops probably thought that the hippies were gonna come at 'em with a Loaded baked potato or sumthin....

 

Those look like the same Police Cali sent to help with Katrina.

 

California probably hoped the gators would get them and they wouldn't come back.

 

We live in a country whose government polices food. With guns drawn.

Think about it.

 

If the law enforcement officers want or expect some respect, then show some. They serve the public!! We as Americans have been brain washed for generations to view our politicans and police as our leaders ....THEY ARE NOT!!! they are elected and hired to serve the will of the public. That really makes them in a sense a lower class citizen.If it is just the state of California doing this then the people in the state have ask for it. Now if it is the feds ,they have been passing more and more laws lately "for our own good" because they view themselves as some "UBER'' class with special powers and wisdom. RANT OFF!!! now I feel better.

 

All i can say is if someone tries to steal your hard earned cash straight from your wallet or even worse, tries to clean out your larder while you're not looking, he deserves to be shot. I could care less who they are. Californians are health fanatic & food crazy. Like that's news.
If given half a chance I'd simply grow my own stuff and to hell with the laws and the idiots who want to steal your money. Let 'em bleed to death for all I care.