I belong to, and support several orgs. Write letters and emails to my politicritters. I've never heard of a pistol brace though. I mean, ive never owned pistols anyway. So, there's that.
Oh, and anything the BATFE does is unconstitutional. Also their existance.

 

Coming from a dictatorial country my vote is ignore government edicts .

 

What pistol brace guns?

 

Are we signing up for the ovens here, or just trying to flex what remains of our freedom?

 

Quick question, will owners of pistols with braces have to pay $200 tax stamp or will it be waved if they do the amnesty registration.

I saw a video where a youtube gun guy claimed that if you register it during the amnesty that the $200 would be waved. If so then it would raise all types of questions. I am guessing that the $200 tax stamp WILL NOT BE FREE.

 

It is supposed to be waived.

Al

 

Waived or not, the government will know what and how many you have.

 

They already know that information if any transaction went through an FFL. No records or database..my ass.

pistol brace, SBR, legal, not legal per ATF. only Congress can pass laws...SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED..

We the people have been infringed enough. No mas.

Doesn't concern me. My stuff is legal. If brownshirts come. I hope they are prepared.

 

You should have given the option of other. I don't own a braced pistol; however, if I did I'd be genuinely whizzed off about now. I don't have an elbow in my right arm, so I have limited movement. It would be a cold day in Hell before I'd register a firearm just to be equal to those who can master high power handguns. One of the requirements of a braced pistol is that you be able to shoot it with one hand. Does the BATFE teach their agents to use one hand when firing their service weapons?

I would stand beside anyone that does own a braced firearm. Joining groups and donating money are only part of the battle. We have to exhaust ALL of our nonviolent legal and political avenues of redress. In the meantime, we should never submit to a yoke to slavery.

 

Im hoping it back fires on them and fast tracts the removal of SBRs and SBS from the NFA. having to ask permission every time you cross state lines with one is not something im willing to do. and a 10-12" barrel is no more dangerous then a 16" and its ridiculous they are regulated by the NFA.

If i were forced to form 1 a pistol I would just put a stock on it. its going to kill the Brace market

 

"What mama don't know won't hurt her" - Coach Klein

 

The majority of people, so far, either don't have or care about braces or don't know what I am talking about. If you're in the latter group you can find the other thread and read all about it. Either way that should not stop you from being a pro-brace activist just the same. Say nothing and the 'thing' they come for next will be something you do own. I didn't own a bump stock but I fought for them like I had 10. I don't own an 80% lower but I am fighting for them too.

 

I don't yet own a pistol brace but I do legally own a couple of SBRs by paying a $200 tax via a form 4 (factory SBRs).

I hope the brace thing doesn't go through.

I wouldn't mind a couple more SBRs but I rather not pay for more stamps.

It is supposed to be waived.

Al

 

You can protest to all your abilities and still lose. I have done in a lot in my country and have yet to win. Protest all you want but don't admit or register what you have. America seems to be going down the wrong path with the lefty democrats in charge.

 

So, should I put my hands in my pocket look at the floor and declare that you can't fight city hall? And you have yet to win?

Think about all this from my perspective. I began in the late 1970s when there was no hope of winning. And yet twenty years later we had the 14th and 16th Amendments on the ropes. People were declaring their Preamble Citizenship; the most researched bill, the Fair Tax, came close to serious consideration. Had it not been for the left infiltrating the right and conning them into taking up socialist solutions, we may have won America without a fight.

Protest is only a part of the picture. You have to have the modern equivalent of the Declaration of Independence. Right now there is such a document. It is The Charter and Proclamation of the Rights of Man. You sign onto it by making it your own commitment and getting others to support it. You exhaust all of your nonviolent legal and political avenues of redress. You network with the right people; organize; vote, lobby for better candidates, run if you have to. Support those who take the matters to court. Use passive resistance, civil disobedience, but never submit to a yoke of slavery. You lose when you give up.

 

I wrote a whole diatribe on this but then erased it.

Probably for the best

 

Personally, I think this is a fight they will back off from. The repercussions will be enormous. Unlike the bump stock BS, braces are everywhere. 10's of millions. They aren't picking a fight with a few random accessory owners. They're poking a good 30% of gun owners. This one might just wake the sleeping giant............

 

On one "pro-gun" site, this matter was brought up by an activist who got a reply back that the gun owner only cared about whether he got his gun approved. When challenged on his don't give a damn statement, the guy went ballistic (no pun intended) and started threatening to "whip some ass." There is no sleeping giant in America. If we win, we have to start from square one.

 

If you are a freedom loving gun owner, and you're NOT A MEMBER yet, please look into the GOA. These people are on the front lines. Trust me when I say it is worth every penny you can spare. Support the **** out of them.

GOA | The only no compromise gun lobby in Washington

The only no compromise gun lobby in Washington

www.gunowners.org

 

Some people are out of touch with reality.
The percentage of gun owners that have or even care about an AR "pistol" is quite small. Vocal but small.
The percentage of the overall population is obviously even smaller.
The percentage of the population that knows about such things and thinks they're the next way to hide a mean black assault weapon in your pocket making it easier to shoot up a school is sizeable, rightly or wrongly.
All politicians, R, D, or otherwise, are subject to the political winds and whims of the day.
Their ride on the gravy train supercedes your interests, your rights, and all that is good, period.
Add in the fact that R's really suck at the PR it takes to make vocal minorities seem overwhelming and valid, and the fact that the D's are masters at it, and you see where this is going.

We're not gonna win, currently, politically, outside of a favorable executive order or court decision or two, that can be just as easily be invalidated by some future executive or court.

Real, meaningful, and lasting change requires a cultural change, which ain't gonna come about from people being all "it's my way or the highway". Young people aren't going to respond favorably to that as well they shouldn't. I know I didn't and they shouldn't either. It defies human nature. You're supposed to rebel against the old way and make your own new way. It's part of being a normal human being.

There's ways you can put our ideas forth to younger people that make sense to them, but "by God we always did it like this so you have to too" isn't it.
You'll just end up being some nutty old codger and the people you hoped to influence will just go with what they're told by the system and view you as some nutty old codger they can't invite to cool parties or their girlfriends or boyfriend's house.

So will their parents.

This gun stuff isn't just a political shift, like R's are in charge for now so guns are safe for now. Those R's are spineless and if they thought they could get a little more gravy by going the other way they would.

It's a cultural shift. That means being open and honest with young people, warts and all. So they can also see things from the bigger picture as well.

That starts with eschewing the my way or the highway attitude, seeing the world through new eyes, being open to new stuff, and explaining things in a way so they come to the conclusion, on their own, that things like firearms and free speech and religion and due process and stuff are important to them, because they came to that conclusion on their own (albeit with a little "suggestion") and they'll take it and move forward with it.

Put it in hard terms and they'll naturally rebel, as they should.

Just sayin'

 

Some people are out of touch with reality.
The percentage of gun owners that have or even care about an AR "pistol" is quite small. Vocal but small.
The percentage of the overall population is obviously even smaller.
The percentage of the population that knows about such things and thinks they're the next way to hide a mean black assault weapon in your pocket making it easier to shoot up a school is sizeable, rightly or wrongly.
All politicians, R, D, or otherwise, are subject to the political winds and whims of the day.
Their ride on the gravy train supercedes your interests, your rights, and all that is good, period.
Add in the fact that R's really suck at the PR it takes to make vocal minorities seem overwhelming and valid, and the fact that the D's are masters at it, and you see where this is going.

We're not gonna win, currently, politically, outside of a favorable executive order or court decision or two, that can be just as easily be invalidated by some future executive or court.

Real, meaningful, and lasting change requires a cultural change, which ain't gonna come about from people being all "it's my way or the highway". Young people aren't going to respond favorably to that as well they shouldn't. I know I didn't and they shouldn't either. It defies human nature. You're supposed to rebel against the old way and make your own new way. It's part of being a normal human being.

There's ways you can put our ideas forth to younger people that make sense to them, but "by God we always did it like this so you have to too" isn't it.
You'll just end up being some nutty old codger and the people you hoped to influence will just go with what they're told by the system and view you as some nutty old codger they can't invite to cool parties or their girlfriends or boyfriend's house.

So will their parents.

This gun stuff isn't just a political shift, like R's are in charge for now so guns are safe for now. Those R's are spineless and if they thought they could get a little more gravy by going the other way they would.

It's a cultural shift. That means being open and honest with young people, warts and all. So they can also see things from the bigger picture as well.

That starts with eschewing the my way or the highway attitude, seeing the world through new eyes, being open to new stuff, and explaining things in a way so they come to the conclusion, on their own, that things like firearms and free speech and religion and due process and stuff are important to them, because they came to that conclusion on their own (albeit with a little "suggestion") and they'll take it and move forward with it.

Put it in hard terms and they'll naturally rebel, as they should.

Just sayin'

No offense, but you sound like an old codger. That's okay. I'm old enough to be out of the influence department. But, really. Have you been to a gun show or out to a busy range? I'd say every fifth gun I see is a variation of an AR 15 pistol. There are millions of them out there.

Now, when it comes to political influence, sometimes the objective is not to get legislation passed, but rather keep the bad guys from wanting to introduce new legislation. If you knew how the system works, you would know how the left, comprising very small numbers a couple of decades ago is now in the majority. I know that when it comes to influencing the younger generation, they don't like to listen. At the same time, they are losing. And, you know, a couple of decades ago I was on the top of the heap when people started to buy into the absolute horse manure clogging up social media. Have you ever read the first chapter of Ecclesiastes?

I have to work on my approach, but waiting isn't working in our favor. Furthermore, even among older people I'm not seeing them with a winning strategy. The right has been going completely backward for at least the last two decades. If they don't like my political approach, I will still get invited to the parties because I tell good jokes.

 

The poll omitted the option to select: I unfortunately lost my pistol brace in an unfortunate boating accident.”

 

Its been well said, a right not exercised is a right that will soon be lost and once lost, it will never be regained.

The sad fact today, is most are just to damned afraid of losing of what little they think they own, you only have what you have because they allow you to have it...

I served in the US Army years back, and as God fearing Christian man I am not afraid of dying for I know where I am going, I will stand beside any man who wants to fight to turn this country back to a God fearing nation...if not, its not my fight...and truth be told...that is the only way to turn this country back around, for the Lord God has removed His hand of blessing and is raining down His indignation upon this heathen land...I will say this, any other way and the Lord God will crush the uprising and defeat is behind the door.

Most do not know this, but our first Commander in Chief made a covenant with the Lord God Almighty...read on if you dare.

Unless we as a nation turn back to the Lord God Almighty, we are on a one way ticket to hell… Now for the truth… of why the US is headed on a path of destruction...

What is going on??? the US has broken her covenant with God...the covenant that George Washington made with Almighty God, the creator of heaven and earth and all it contains...and since the US has broken her oath of following ALL of God's ways...the Lord God has no choice except to bring judgment upon the US....read below for the words of President Washington...a most humble man...

now buckle up and get strapped in tight for the party has just begun...you wanted debauchery, you wanted sin upon sin upon sin...well now the Lord has come to repay for the sins of the US and forsaking Him...Psalm 9:17

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
George Washington’s Covenant with God

April 30, 1789
Federal Hall
New York City

The debate was over. The arguments had been presented. The federalists supported this new document because they believed it was necessary for this young nation to prosper. On the other hand, the anti-federalists feared that the new constitution gave to much power to the federal government. Would states lose their autonomy once this new document was ratified? After four grueling months of debate the new constitution was ratified and the states had to decide who would be their first president.

George Washington was chosen unanimously as the new nation’s first president without a single dissenting vote. Now once again, after wishing to end his life of service to his country and retire back to his farm, Washington again answer’s the call to serve his country. For George Washington was truly a man who did not seek power. In fact, he detested power. He sought personal honor. But he never sought accolades. He believed in service to his country.

It was time for George Washington to go to the new nation’s capital, which was in New York, and accept another responsibility and trust that was bestowed upon him. For George Washington was truly a man whom was trusted by the people of the United States. For the thirteen states would have never accepted the new constitution if Washington had not given it his seal of approval.

The young nation feared a strong central government. They feared the new Constitution would create a government that would trample on their rights. They feared another monarchy. For what good was the revolution if a new monarchy at home would replace the old monarchy abroad?

The thirteen states were apprehensive at first in ratifying this new Constitution. And there was only one man whom could put their minds at ease. That man was George Washington. The only man whom they would entrust with this new power.

Washington gave the very first presidential oath and the very first inaugural address. On that cool, April Day in New York City Washington also followed in the footsteps of the Biblical heroes of old making a covenant with God. David. Solomon. Josiah.

God honors covenants. He would always keep His end of the bargain. George Washington knew that.
The question is would the United States of America keep hers?

Robert Livingston administered the very first presidential oath of office of this new nation. He was New York’s state Chancellor.

Washington opened the Bible at random to Genesis 49. Washington placed his left hand upon the open Bible. Washington raised his right hand. Washington then proceeded to take the following oath:

“I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. So help me God.”

Washington then bent over and in an act of reverence for His God whom saved him so many times before, he kissed the Bible.

Chancellor Livingston proclaimed, “It is done!” Livingston then turned to those who were assembled as eyewitnesses to history and shouted, “Long live George Washington – the first President of the United States!”

George Washington then went inside Federal Hall to the Senate Chamber and delivered the first ever Inaugural Address. Washington opened his address with prayer:

“It would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official Act, my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the Universe, who presides in the Councils of Nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that his benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the People of the United States, a Government instituted by themselves for these essential purposes.”

Washington continued:

“No People can be bound to acknowledge and adore the invisible hand, which conducts the Affairs of men more than the People of the United States. Every step, by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation, seems to have been distinguished by some token of providential agency. And in the important revolution just accomplished in the system of their United Government, the tranquil deliberations and voluntary consent of so many distinct communities, from which the event has resulted, cannot be compared with the means by which most Governments have been established, without some return of pious gratitude along with an humble anticipation of the future blessings which the past seem to presage. These reflections, arising out of the present crisis, have forced themselves too strongly on my mind to be suppressed. You will join with me I trust in thinking, that there are none under the influence of which, the proceedings of a new and free Government can more auspiciously commence.”

Then Washington made a covenant with the God of the universe saying:

“Since we ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of Heaven, can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained: And since the preservation of the sacred fire of liberty, and the destiny of the Republican model of Government, are justly considered as deeply, perhaps as finally staked, on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people.”

In his address Washington made it clear that no nation can expect to be blessed by God (propitious smiles of Heaven) if they turn away from Him. (disregards the eternal rules of order and right) If a nation forgets God she will lose the blessing that God has given her.
Representing the nation, Washington made a promise that the United States of America would follow God. If she ever broke her promise then she would lose God’s blessing and protection. God would keep His promise. He always kept His promises. Only one question remained:

Would the United States of America keep hers?

Today, if we are honest, truly honest with ourselves, we should be willing to admit to the heavens above we have forsaken God as a Nation that was once blessed by the Almighty God. And the Lord God Almighty has no choice but to forsake us as the United States of America by the covenant made to the Lord by General Washington, The President and leader of the United States.

George Washington may be gone...but the covenant still stands in the eyes of God for a covenant can only end when one of the parties dies, for George was our representative and placed the US under the oath of the covenant ...and the US seems to be on her death bed....

Job 1:21
New American Standard Bible

21 He said, “Naked I came from my mother’s womb,
And naked I shall return there.
The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away.
Blessed be the name of the Lord.”

Direct from the word of God...

Acts 17:26 and He made from one man, every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined [their] appointed times, and the boundaries of their habitation.

Job 12:23 "He makes the nations great, then destroys them; He enlarges the nations, then leads them away.

Are we something to God?...God needs nothing from us...for these words in Isaiah speaks this truth.

Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, He taketh up the isles as a very little thing. And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering. All nations before Him are as nothing ; and they are counted to Him less than nothing, and vanity. To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto Him? (Isa 40:15-18).

How vastly different is the God of Scripture from the “god” of the average pulpit! The modern day Pharisee (pastor) has turned the Lord God into a genie in the bottle to stroke at their will...yet God is stroking the world with His wrath and indignation.

May the Lord in His wrath, show us mercy.


rebellion is going against just laws...and resistance is going against unjust laws....

I love my God, I love my family, I love my country, I love my guns and I love my freedom…all that I love is in this order and I do not change the order around to suit my needs or my political agenda.

~CP1776

 

Its been well said, a right not exercised is a right that will soon be lost and once lost, it will never be regained.

The sad fact today, is most are just to damned afraid of losing of what little they think they own, you only have what you have because they allow you to have it...

I served in the US Army years back, and as God fearing Christian man I am not afraid of dying for I know where I am going, I will stand beside any man who wants to fight to turn this country back to a God fearing nation...if not, its not my fight...and truth be told...that is the only way to turn this country back around, for the Lord God has removed His hand of blessing and is raining down His indignation upon this heathen land...I will say this, any other way and the Lord God will crush the uprising and defeat is behind the door.

Most do not know this, but our first Commander in Chief made a covenant with the Lord God Almighty...read on if you dare.

Unless we as a nation turn back to the Lord God Almighty, we are on a one way ticket to hell… Now for the truth… of why the US is headed on a path of destruction...

What is going on??? the US has broken her covenant with God...the covenant that George Washington made with Almighty God, the creator of heaven and earth and all it contains...and since the US has broken her oath of following ALL of God's ways...the Lord God has no choice except to bring judgment upon the US....read below for the words of President Washington...a most humble man...

now buckle up and get strapped in tight for the party has just begun...you wanted debauchery, you wanted sin upon sin upon sin...well now the Lord has come to repay for the sins of the US and forsaking Him...Psalm 9:17

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
George Washington’s Covenant with God

April 30, 1789
Federal Hall
New York City

The debate was over. The arguments had been presented. The federalists supported this new document because they believed it was necessary for this young nation to prosper. On the other hand, the anti-federalists feared that the new constitution gave to much power to the federal government. Would states lose their autonomy once this new document was ratified? After four grueling months of debate the new constitution was ratified and the states had to decide who would be their first president.

George Washington was chosen unanimously as the new nation’s first president without a single dissenting vote. Now once again, after wishing to end his life of service to his country and retire back to his farm, Washington again answer’s the call to serve his country. For George Washington was truly a man who did not seek power. In fact, he detested power. He sought personal honor. But he never sought accolades. He believed in service to his country.

It was time for George Washington to go to the new nation’s capital, which was in New York, and accept another responsibility and trust that was bestowed upon him. For George Washington was truly a man whom was trusted by the people of the United States. For the thirteen states would have never accepted the new constitution if Washington had not given it his seal of approval.

The young nation feared a strong central government. They feared the new Constitution would create a government that would trample on their rights. They feared another monarchy. For what good was the revolution if a new monarchy at home would replace the old monarchy abroad?

The thirteen states were apprehensive at first in ratifying this new Constitution. And there was only one man whom could put their minds at ease. That man was George Washington. The only man whom they would entrust with this new power.

Washington gave the very first presidential oath and the very first inaugural address. On that cool, April Day in New York City Washington also followed in the footsteps of the Biblical heroes of old making a covenant with God. David. Solomon. Josiah.

God honors covenants. He would always keep His end of the bargain. George Washington knew that.
The question is would the United States of America keep hers?

Robert Livingston administered the very first presidential oath of office of this new nation. He was New York’s state Chancellor.

Washington opened the Bible at random to Genesis 49. Washington placed his left hand upon the open Bible. Washington raised his right hand. Washington then proceeded to take the following oath:

“I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. So help me God.”

Washington then bent over and in an act of reverence for His God whom saved him so many times before, he kissed the Bible.

Chancellor Livingston proclaimed, “It is done!” Livingston then turned to those who were assembled as eyewitnesses to history and shouted, “Long live George Washington – the first President of the United States!”

George Washington then went inside Federal Hall to the Senate Chamber and delivered the first ever Inaugural Address. Washington opened his address with prayer:

“It would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official Act, my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the Universe, who presides in the Councils of Nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that his benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the People of the United States, a Government instituted by themselves for these essential purposes.”

Washington continued:

“No People can be bound to acknowledge and adore the invisible hand, which conducts the Affairs of men more than the People of the United States. Every step, by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation, seems to have been distinguished by some token of providential agency. And in the important revolution just accomplished in the system of their United Government, the tranquil deliberations and voluntary consent of so many distinct communities, from which the event has resulted, cannot be compared with the means by which most Governments have been established, without some return of pious gratitude along with an humble anticipation of the future blessings which the past seem to presage. These reflections, arising out of the present crisis, have forced themselves too strongly on my mind to be suppressed. You will join with me I trust in thinking, that there are none under the influence of which, the proceedings of a new and free Government can more auspiciously commence.”

Then Washington made a covenant with the God of the universe saying:

“Since we ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of Heaven, can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained: And since the preservation of the sacred fire of liberty, and the destiny of the Republican model of Government, are justly considered as deeply, perhaps as finally staked, on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people.”

In his address Washington made it clear that no nation can expect to be blessed by God (propitious smiles of Heaven) if they turn away from Him. (disregards the eternal rules of order and right) If a nation forgets God she will lose the blessing that God has given her.
Representing the nation, Washington made a promise that the United States of America would follow God. If she ever broke her promise then she would lose God’s blessing and protection. God would keep His promise. He always kept His promises. Only one question remained:

Would the United States of America keep hers?

Today, if we are honest, truly honest with ourselves, we should be willing to admit to the heavens above we have forsaken God as a Nation that was once blessed by the Almighty God. And the Lord God Almighty has no choice but to forsake us as the United States of America by the covenant made to the Lord by General Washington, The President and leader of the United States.

George Washington may be gone...but the covenant still stands in the eyes of God for a covenant can only end when one of the parties dies, for George was our representative and placed the US under the oath of the covenant ...and the US seems to be on her death bed....

Job 1:21
New American Standard Bible

21 He said, “Naked I came from my mother’s womb,
And naked I shall return there.
The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away.
Blessed be the name of the Lord.”

Direct from the word of God...

Acts 17:26 and He made from one man, every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined [their] appointed times, and the boundaries of their habitation.

Job 12:23 "He makes the nations great, then destroys them; He enlarges the nations, then leads them away.

Are we something to God?...God needs nothing from us...for these words in Isaiah speaks this truth.

Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, He taketh up the isles as a very little thing. And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering. All nations before Him are as nothing ; and they are counted to Him less than nothing, and vanity. To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto Him? (Isa 40:15-18).

How vastly different is the God of Scripture from the “god” of the average pulpit! The modern day Pharisee (pastor) has turned the Lord God into a genie in the bottle to stroke at their will...yet God is stroking the world with His wrath and indignation.

May the Lord in His wrath, show us mercy.


rebellion is going against just laws...and resistance is going against unjust laws....

I love my God, I love my family, I love my country, I love my guns and I love my freedom…all that I love is in this order and I do not change the order around to suit my needs or my political agenda.

~CP1776

Well said! (Both President Washington and you, Sir.)

 

A, B, or C.
Neither of mine are papered anyway.

 

This very much affects me, but I’m not going to put in writing on a public forum what I will or will not do relating to this.
There are some who are in a particularly awkward position that I have not heard being addressed. In states where AR rifles and pistols have been banned to purchase after a certain date, but where “other” firearms (basically a longer AR pistol with a forward grip) are perfectly legal, it is illegal to purchase or build a new AR rifle. If one were to register an “other” with the feds as an SBR, they would be committing a state-level felony by doing so. This would apply in states like CA, CT, NY, probably more.

 

When I post and tell people that they should be active I draw the ire of dishonest gun owners that are only into firearms for their own amusement. Consequently, they will flame away at me and tell others that if they listen to me they will go to jail. Ultimately, those are the same kinds of people that let things go until they don't have any options left. Then they must fight or die. In the more than 45 years since I wrote a letter to the editor in a newspaper (as a very young kid), nobody has ever been arrested, gone to jail, or served time in prison for taking my advice. Oddly that letter (that got published in a major newspaper) was about gun control. I got my first BB gun at eight and my first .22 at the age of eleven.

The government has the power to take your weapons. The issue is that they don't have the authority. If you were in a restaurant and a man came in with a pistol and demanded everyone's money, he has the power to take it, but he doesn't have the authority. If you are armed, you could challenge the robber's authority. You might be killed. It's a calculated risk. If all he wants is the money, you might think about complying. If the robber is shooting patrons, you may want to think about going for your EDC. It's a judgment call.

In the instant case, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATFE) is going door to door right now and confiscating forced reset triggers and solvent traps. Bump stocks were outlawed. The government got one over on me when .50 caliber uppers were reclassified as weapons. I didn't know about that one until it was done and over. Little by little the BATFE is coming after all the firearms. While we debate what we SAY we're going to do or not do, the enemies of Freedom and Liberty are upon us, tearing down the will and the ability of each of us to be a part of that militia that insures the security of a free state.

I will not advocate violence and I won't imply that I intend for you to commit a crime. I'm only going to say that what is going on is a crime against we, the people. You cannot let the BATFE win by default. If you have something they don't like, you are right (legally speaking) to keep it and say silently (where they can't hear you) to go to Hell. But, you risk them catching you - in which case, I'd suggest you think about your life from that moment, forward. If your plan is to lie to the authorities and say you lost whatever they want in that unfortunate boating accident, you will have lied and also committed a sin. Now, you've added another crime and a sin because you aren't taking a stand today. If you boast that you aren't going to comply and you have something that is outlawed, the BATFE will, without any doubt, answer your challenge. They will kick your doors down and they will kill you. That is our reality. As for me, I signed The Charter and the Proclamation of the Rights of Man. I made it my own as the drafters intended. I make sure that my friends, neighbors, and elected leaders have a copy. You should too. You should join Gun Owners of America (GOA) and you should be in constant contact with your elected representatives, educating them. I take a state level legislator out to lunch about once every other month and educate them. I pioneered a bill that would abolish the BATFE. It was introduced into Congress by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, but got zero support. To say that I'm pissed off at gun owners would be an understatement.

Whether a bill passes or not is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. In order to justify what MAY some day become a civil war, you have to exhaust ALL of your nonviolent legal and political avenues of redress. Give the enemies of Freedom and Liberty the opportunity to make good that guarantee in the Second Amendment. In legal parlance, silence is consent. So, you hang onto what you own and don't say anything about it. That's acceptable. Not voicing your opposition to tyranny is plain out treason. If you are silent, you are consenting to gun control. All those people who didn't sign The Charter and Proclamation of the Rights of Man; all those who ignored my lobbying efforts to draw support for HR3960 to abolish the BATFE; all those who have flamed me in news stories and on discussion boards are B.S. artists. Each and every one of you out there could have done more and should have done more. If more people had been involved in those efforts, they would know what effect we COULD HAVE HAD. An example is in order:

The Lautenberg Amendment could never see the light of day as legislation. But, the left kept reintroducing it and finally added it to a budget bill as an AMENDMENT. That bill had nothing to do with the legislation at hand. Instead of the right doing the same thing, they give Biden one legislative victory after another. There is no reason that the right couldn't attach pro-gun amendments to Biden's legislation and get something in return when liberals are pounding us. Oddly, instead of doing something like that, we're voting for people that taunt the liberals for not being able to make the BATFE more aggressive AND then using the BATFE to do the job of the federal legislature and outlaw bump stocks. It defies human comprehension.

The moral here is that we don't do what we could do and most pro-gun factions oppose those who are hard core strategists. That is just our reality. We won't resist unconstitutional actions and since we accept that level of ignorance, apathy, and indifference you can expect gun rights to keep going south. I know what to do to protect gun Rights. Will we ever do it?

 

Registering rights is just giving them a list of rights to take away.

 

Poll is flawed, where is the option for #FJB?? I know there is a similar one, but #FJB has special meaning....

 

I feel like the top poll question was the most forum friendly version of FJB possible.

 

How do you conceal a brace?

 

This is just a semi/legal first step.... once its timed out, if you are seen with a brace all they have to do is proclaim..... Show Me Your Papers

Public ranges will be a feeding trough for gathering images vehicle plates etc, so they can get the next most newsworthy public shooter to groom their agenda. I see people all the time that need educations on safety and common sense. Get a cross over list of medicated and braced it can only go down from here. deep state plays the long game

 

This is just a semi/legal first step.... once its timed out, if you are seen with a brace all they have to do is proclaim..... Show Me Your Papers

Public ranges will be a feeding trough for gathering images vehicle plates etc, so they can get the next most newsworthy public shooter to groom their agenda. I see people all the time that need educations on safety and common sense. Get a cross over list of medicated and braced it can only go down from here. deep state plays the long game

We may complain, but if you want to know what silence sounds like, propose a countermeasure to the left's strategy.

 

EVERY ATF agent is an enemy of the people, period. This is how I see it anyway.

 

I pioneered a piece of legislation that was offered by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene as HR 3960. The bill would have abolished the BATFE. It got NO support despite our best efforts. My work in bringing it to the attention of the public has never gotten more than a "like" on a discussion board.

 

Why would anyone create a written record on the public internet announcing they own an item that is soon to be scrutinized by the ATF and how they are planning on breaking that law. People.....

 

Because we are citizens of the USA. If one fears his government to the degree that they cannot exercise their constitutional rights, they are a subject of the crown.