My FFL offers FREE transfers to all .MIL and first-responders (and friends :thumb. I'm talking for guns NOT bought through him (i.e. Gunbroker, online purchases, etc). He gets nothing... but good will, and a great reputation.

Sounds like equine excrement.

 

It doesn't make sense to have a business and give things away for free. There is no charge to FFLs to do a NICS check but just having an FFL is such a hassle that it only makes sense to charge for services.

 

Yeah, transfer fee's are different though. Around here most FFLs will receive and "Transfer" to you a firearm for $20. As in, you buy the gun online, and have it shipped to them for pick up. That's fine by me, as they are not making a mark up and all they have to do is log the gun in and out and do the check.

Guns that are already sitting on their shelves however, why would they want to charge you for the 5 extra minutes it takes to run the NICS?


I went into a gun shop in Kansas once, where they would not let you handle/look at the firearms unless you put the money on the counter to prove you were not going to just grab it and run out the door. I politely told them to go **** themselves.
I can immagine a douchebag shop like that charging for doing a NICS Check.

 

Here in Vermont, I've bought plenty of guns from FFl Dealers, and not once have I ever been charged anything extra by them running the NICS Check.
It's just part of what they have to do to make the sale.

I am watching "The Five" on FOX, and they are rambling about it costing $60-$100 just to do a NICS Check to buy a gun.
Are they full of ****, or are there really store that will charge you just to do the required check to sell you their products????

I think they are confusing the NICS check vs transfer "fee". In reality the transfer fee is the exact same deal as a NICS check they just want to charge you for it so that you don't buy all of your stuff online. It probably takes even less of their time because they don't have to show you any products, you already know exactly what you're there for. Unless dealers actually charge each other to transfer stuff to one another.

 

cost $10.00 here in TN. Feds let the states handle it. a fed check is free in most states

 

Primary reason TN doesn't let our carry permit suffice for the NICS check, would be significant loss of revenue out of the ~$4 million per year in income from that.

- OS

 

We have a fee here in Oregon for the background check.

 

They may have been referring to what it costs to run the check, not what the FFL charges you for it.

I thought originally the fees were paid for by a tax on firearms? I can't remember, and I have no time to do search-fu.

 

25$ here in Ok for a transfer fee

 

FOX has been full of disinformation all afternoon, including from everybody's fav Napolitano.

He wears his Uber Minuteman tricorn hat loudly, but has shown over and over he knows little about actual federal or state firearm law, and even less about firearms themselves.

- OS

 

Based on some other things he has spouted I'm wondering if he even went to law school.

 

$25 for NCIS background check here.....CCW=no background check.

 

I was going to say what he said, then realized he's from where I am, NV. CCW is the only way to go if you're going to buy multiple guns. If not $25 bucks each individual purchase for background check.

Transfer fees range anywhere from $25-$100 in Vegas.

 

Background checks to purchase a firearm do not have to go through NICS. NICS does not charge for background checks. States that do their own background checks to buy a firearm, choosing not subscribe to NICS, may charge for them.

 

By federal law, all 4473 submissions use NICS -- Full and Partial POC (Point of Contact) states query NICS also. They just have backdoor API to the FBI NICS databases, rather than having the FBI do it themselves.

See Point of Contact link below, where it shows that all states use NICS, the only diff being whether the state conducts the search or whether FBI does.

Of course, each state may add it's own criteria and data bases onto the basic NICS requirement also, as does my own. Indeed, most denials in TN come from the state TICS system, rather than the NICS system, as there are a few extra conditions imposed beyond the federal ones.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/poc

Even in states where a permit may suffice for the background check, that is dependent on the permit being verified by a NICS check within the last 5 years.

- OS

 

I believe some of the deep blue states charge whenever a firearm is sold.

Example: Wisconsin charges $15.00 for hand gun sales and completion of their form. There is no fee/form for long gun sales.

 

NICS is free. Not sure about all states fees but when you pay a transfer fee to your FFL there is no charge to the dealer for that part, you are paying them for their time and a service.

 

My FFL charges $30 for transfers. When I bought a shotgun at a gun show several years ago I think the NICS check cost $5 which is what the FFL actually pays the fed per check to be able to use the system.

 

$40 @ LGS for transfer. However, I have been told that a gun shop in next town over does charge for background checks. That'
S one reason we don't buy firearms there. We do buy some ammo from them.

 

Last time I got a background check for a firearm, they charged me $10. here in Florida. When you make gun control profitable, there's a lot less opposition to it. Divide and conquer.

Never allow the taking away or withholding of your rights to become anybodies revenue stream.

 

In Oregon there is a charge for the background check itself. A Concealed Carry Permit does not allow a waiver. You have to pay and have the check done regardless if you have the permit or not.

 

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but in NH its up to the FFL if or what they charge. I have an upcoming online order so I'll find out what this particular FFL charges. I have paid between $0 and $25 in the past.

 

Again, you are mixing up transfer fee and charging for the background check. A transfer fee is when the FFL transfers a firearm that did not come from its own stock. A background check (or permit in lieu of it) is done for all transfers.

An FFL can charge anything they like for a transfer, and in some states there is a state-mandated fee for the background check, or a limit on it, or no rules at all. In general, though, beyond any state mandated fee, charging for the NICS alone is seen as quite underhanded, since it is free from the federal government, and shops that do that tend to not stay in biz very long.

As mentioned before, TN is a Full Point of Contact state, and uses the overlay of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation to use the TICS system (Tennnessee Instant Check System) along with querying NICS (National Instant Check System), and a statutory mandated fee of $10 is assessed for that "service".

- OS

 

Thanks OS for putting it clearly and understanding that my question had nothing to do with "Transfer Fees".

:thumb:

 

I don't know about other states, but here in MT is is state law that if you have a CCW then you are considered to have a background check. My guess is this goes out the window with these EO's signed today.
Now the big challenge is coming up with a program for the FFL's to facilitate a private transfer...and the challenge within that challenge is that in states like MT, it is something like 80% of FFL's are home based. This is gonna be fun...essentially the gov is going to have to force commercial location FFL's to do a background check for individual to individual transfers...and then it is going to be up to the FFL to come up with a price...and then what is the price if denied or delayed (where the parties would have to come back). I see a whole bunch of non-compliance on the private end, then I see a real challenge in the costs of education/enforcement/etc.

 

I don't know about other states, but here in MT is is state law that if you have a CCW then you are considered to have a background check.

That is because your permit requires a NICS check every five years or less and also because your state satisfies conditions for revoking it for certain offenses that would also make you ineligible for firearm purchase.

My guess is this goes out the window with these EO's signed today.

Nothing Hussein "did" today changes any of the existing rules for NICS compliance with 4473 mandated purchases, including the Permanent Brady Permit States.

About the only thing that may change is the controversial push for additional mental health reporting to be included in the NICS database, and especially that in regard to certain Social Security recipients.

- OS

 

I believe Florida dealers pay $5 to FDLE to run a background check. Buying a new gun from a shop some dealers tack that fee onto the price, others include it.

Transfers from other FFLs are anywhere from $20-$50.

 

Old thread,but just bought a couple this year in Fl....both charged 5$ for the check...
For the transfer,out of 9 local places,cheapest was 45$...most a flat 50$,and 1 was 60$.

 

Best price I have ever seen is $25 for up to 5 "firearms". Can you guess where I get my stripped lowers sent to?

Oh Shoot, I just want to summarize to see if I have this thread right so far:

-The FBI charges $0 for any call into them for a NICS check
-Various states charge per check, either as a revenue generation stream or to cover the costs of the state calling the FBI for a background check
-There is no state that can run a NICS check on its own, they must go through the FBI

 

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-The FBI charges $0 for any call into them for a NICS check

Right. Your tax dollars at work.

-Various states charge per check, either as a revenue generation stream or to cover the costs of the state calling the FBI for a background check

Yeah, basically a fair statement I guess. Can only speak specifically for TN, which adds a layer of bureaucracy through the TBI's (Tennessee Bureau of Investigation) TICS (Tennessee Instant Check System), and actually does a check for some additional stuff that NICS doesn't. Also, complete gun information is sent to TICS, unlike to NICS, and a stolen weapon check is run. So they charge a $10 fee to cover the extra personnel/labor involved. Which actually turns a profit, btw.

Just like NICS, by law all identifying info supposedly purged from TICS daily.

-There is no state that can run a NICS check on its own, they must go through the FBI

Well, that's sort of semantics. Mostly a technical diff I guess, just means FBI personnel don't have to do anything for Point of Contact states to access it, but yeah, the NICS system is maintained only by the FBI.

- OS

 

in virginia nics checks are included in the transfer generally... state police checks are an extra 2-3 dollars....

 

Some stores in our area charge for the background check and some don't. Even buying new from them some charge a fee. I'm not talking a transfer fee. CC license does not waive the check.

 

none of the places i frequent charge for a background check, but once it becomes mandatory for all sales, if it becomes mandatory for all sale, politicians will see a way of driving up prices out of reach (just like cigarettes) by adding a 50 to 100$ stamp on it , just like they already do on a full auto/suppressor/sbr . think about it. how much money would be generated if it came down to all firearms (from granpaws shotgun to cousins lil belt buckle gun) required a tax stamp? is tha posturing making sense now?its not about the children. its not about the mass shootings. its always about the money.

 

Just as a side note, the last NICS I had done to buy a gun was under 5 minutes, closer to 3, from the time the dealer say hello to the NICS person to the time I was "Good to go", so that's at least a sign that someone is doing their job correctly.
I did'nt time it because I was used to waiting maybe 10 minutes, but it was so quick that I was surprised.