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#1 ·
I got a rude wake up call yesterday evening when I got into an argument with someone and housing was in jeopardy. I threw almost everything I own into 8 bags, ranging from my main bag to old backpacks and BOB. When I arrived at another place to crash for the night, I realized I couldn't find anything.

Spread throughout the bags was 90% of what I use daily. The remaining 10% was nowhere to be found.

Looking back, I guess I need to find a better way of moving everything I own. Paring down to the bare minimum is a work in progress. Presorting is now underway. My BOB is next. I need to add stuff to it to be prepared for bugging out for the night.

If you had to move everything in a very short amount of time, could you? How?
 
#7 ·
Unfortunately, my current home isn't mine, so it wouldn't take riflemen to get me out. Dad and an open window will get it.

I'm guessing, however, that moving everything is not the goal, but just what's needed. I'm still figuring that part out, so everything is kinda important to me.
 
#3 ·
Stay packed. A voice recorder, identify the bag or box and contents, then later transcribe it to searchable file.

Back in the old days I could move with two trips on my motor cycle. Later it was a pickup truck full. Now yea tractor trailer load might just do it.

Tools and spare parts take up a lot of room.

I'm working on building an INCH cart to be my enhanced BOB.

Knowledge and skills are the lightest things to pack on your back.
 
#5 ·
Who owns what isn't the issue. But that is still advice I need to consider.

My tools where one of the things left behind. So was water and a few other preps. I made a note to pack water bottles in the BOB. I had to rework it and haven't completed the new one.

Fortunately, I am back and nothing has been touched. It was a good wake up call though. It bugged me during work today and I've been rethinking everything way too much.

I've already repacked one bag and cleaned out three more. I've redone my FAKs, which I threw into a bag with other stuff. They spilled out everywhere.

My car looks like a tornado went through it, with bags shoved everywhere. Trash from the last few days has piled up. The trunk has multiple projects in it, one of which is a table. Another lesson learned: keep cars cleaned out, especially the trunk.

Tomorrow I will have to move mountains of junk to find most of my stuff.
 
#9 ·
Lost my wallet in the mess. Drive several miles down the road before realizing it. Drove back home to get it. I searched for a few minutes, then searched my car before finding the stupid thing in the car door. Mentally, I was dead. I still had to buy a few items, but most were splurges bc I stopped at the dollar tree on the way out. I'm now stocked up on bandanas and other stuff though. This was another lesson learned: the mental aspect. I can't run back in case I forgot something, nor do I need to get out of dodge at a leisurely pace. I'm learning, but slowly. If the first time was a true bug out scenario, I'd have everything fubar.
 
#10 ·
For me, I would need about a month and numerous 18 wheelers to move at the moment. I think the answer are tote boxes. Allocate one box per room (ie one for bedroom etc) and then label them and put on whats in the box. If your taking a vehicle you can then work out how many totes it will carry and the weight distribution and thus what you need to get it down to.

For my Bob, the last time I did a dry run took me 8 minutes, but I've moved things round abit since then. NB to self: do a dry run with the new bag system (one large trolley bag with backpacks inside).
 
#11 ·
We are in the middle of relocating..sizing down...from 3 bedroom 900 square foot house to a trailer...we have plenty of stuff..won't be keeping large furniture or anything of that sort...but we have so much in boxes, we still do not know how we will fit all of it in...will be building a lean to style shed to put supplies in to, but still it is a huge under taking and this thread and what we are doing has made us review our plans.

We were going to bug in,but have changed our long term plans as kids have gotten older and moved out of the house, in our early fifties and taking early retirement.
 
#13 ·
All my camp gear is in totes. One has tent, tarps, stakes, one has cooking pots, pans, foil, ect., one for blankets, one for FAK stuff, one has snack food. There are 6 in all. I just grab and go. Refill when I get back, so they'e always ready.
Backpack is always in car, and it gets changed with the seasons.
 
#18 ·
As a crazy person married to a person with a head injury (someone who drinks!):

1. Walk away before it gets that heated. You can always finish the discussion later when you are both calm.

2. Due to my own situation, I have to be able to bug out at short notice if he has an "ugly" blackout. My safety could be an issue. I'd throw a couple changes of undies into my GHB and go. My medication and all, at least a short supply, is found in the GHB. I also have my Kindle.

Once he sobers up I go back. Happily my aunt is very accommodating.
 
#19 ·
I'm fortunate that my safety isn't at risk. I am, however, in a situation where if I walk away, the two idiots I'm trying not to argue with follow me and keep "lecturing" me and try to point out how everything, including the dinosaurs extinction, and every bad thing thats happened before and since, is my fault.
 
#20 ·
I would suggest totes too. They come on several sizes. Had a dear friend who had to bug out during wildfires a few years ago. The fires were nowhere near her one day and the next morning they woke up to the sound of fire trucks and sirens and p.a. system telling people they must leave. She said the main fireman told her she had 10 minutes to get out as the fire was moving directly toward their property and it was too big to stop. They did eventually stop it from crossing the road later, but she could see how high the flames were in the distance and it scared her.

She didn't have time to pack anything at all. She just started grabbing her important papers, clothes, personal hygiene items, some food, water, dogs and dog stuff, and some valuables in the back seat of her Jeep Cherokee. She left and came here, and it was literally all thrown in the back, just like you'd imagine someone grabbing misc. things like files, jewelery, clothes, dog food, a valuable oil painting, blanket and pillow, documents---all of it was just thrown in together.

When she got here, we went to the dollar store and got several totes to sort and pack her stuff into. It was the cheapest, quickest, and easiest way to sort her stuff.
 
#23 ·
More Practice

Yassin,

On those evenings when there appears to be no worthwhile programming on TV... practice packing.

I've moved about 15 times, and, did a lot of business travel, I kept a duplicate dopp kit just for travel... but, everything I use for personal maintenance (except soap and shampoo) is in my dopp kit. Toothpaste, toothbrush, deodorant, elect. razor, nail clippers, brush, matches, aspirin, $1.00 worth of quarters, (remember pay phones) etc.

I create bundles of clothes, folded shirt, socks, underwear, and wrap the pants around the outside.

For moves, I pack one "fast deployment" bin with one pot, one pan, one set of flatware, one set of "China", one set of bed and bath linens, TP, Paper towels, etc. this holds me over while the van relocates my home.
 
#25 ·
I also keep everything packed.
I bought a nice big toiletry bag and keep everything I used in there, toothpaste, deodorant, razor, toothbrush, etc rather than in the bathroom. Each morning before I leave for work I carry my bag into the bathroom, get ready then carry it back to the closet. It hangs next to the bob over top of the suitcase.
Important documents are kept in a three ring zippered binder in the top of the gun safe so its grab and go ready. Bob is always packed and in the closet. Other bags and packs are kept in there too, from tools to the range bag, etc. I live out of my tool/gear bags so they are always being tested and at the ready.
 
#28 ·
I'm Never Coming Home, a BOB on steroids. I want way more stuff than I can carry on my back, thus a cart.

I want a rickshaw style first. The long handles can attach to my pack and provide 20 or 30 pounds (maybe more) of up lift, making my back pack near weightless. Using the quick release I can get away from it and it will tip back essentially parking itself so it won't roll away. Big Mt. bike wheels, adjustable platform for balance control, perhaps 2' wide - my shoulders are cat whiskers for passage. I'll use it more wheel borrow style on steep down grades.

My second one will be a four wheeled trailer about 35" wide and 90" long. Fits threw a regular door and will stand up in a regular room. Cargo box(s) will be matching clam shell. Front end beveled so I can drag it on the deep snow without the wheels. It will be pulled by my four wheeled bike. The bike will bolt to the trailer sections to form a catamaran paddle boat. A composite propeller will connect to the crank and rudder to the handle bars. Lots of gears on the bike. 3 at the crank, 5-7 at the jack shaft and 5-7 at the axle.

I'm building my own sealed roller bearing hubs for the wheels. They will attach by pit pin. I need to build 12 wheels total and 14 hubs. Its $500 just for the spokes - which is almost 2 months of my summer living expenses.

Off road wheels for my wheel chair are the first to be built. The pit pin cantilever hub on the chair necessated the design, which happens to work well with my other requirements. With 4 wheels on the bike I can ride without my leg on and not have balance issues.

Stuff is things like more food/spices/seeds, dutch oven, stainless stock pot, winter clothes, cross country skies, tent/teepee, buck saw, draw knife, brace & bit, ax, reloading tools, solar panel, pelton wheel adapter for a wheel to generate electricity via a small generator, some light weight hose or I could rig up a wind mill.
 
#29 ·
Buggin out sucks!!!

My oldest was hangin out with the wrong people. She cut class 52 times in a year and we couldn't get a handle on the situation. Next she got locked up and we were told her "friends' were not gonna be very nice. I got my ex and all my little kids out of the house and loaded all my gear and my weapons and ammo up... holy moly it seemed like it took hours. Believe me i condensed my gear after that episode. For now on i will wait and assess the situation before i rashly bug out. Nothin ended up ever happening and my daughter grew up and still has crappy friends but i learned the more you have the more you gotta move. If you have to move quickly make sure you are packed and the 20 weapons with 10,000 rounds you have better have them preloaded in your truck cuz they get very heavy trip after trip after trip. Buggin out is not as cool as it sounds.
 
#31 ·
Have a load plan

One of the things that I learned from another thread is to have a load plan, which is in addition to a packing system such as totes. Now I don't just keep track of what preps I have but also whether they are in the right location (ie tote, duffel bag, vehicle, etc.) so that when I need to find them I know where to look.

Taken a step further, I have a plan for where each of my containers (totes, duffels, gun cases, etc) goes in my truck so that I know how to load the truck quickly and in a way that I know that I have everything that I need and where to find it.

Having everything pre-loaded in a trailer or something like that isn't practical for me but I'm confident that I could load my truck with everything that I would need for fairly long term in 30 minutes or less.
 
#33 ·
You might want to organize your resources for both Shelter-In-Place and Evacuation purposes.

An Excel spreadsheet can be used and specific workbook pages denoted for each of your resource categories, or you can use a database management tool designed for the purpose. If you want to try an Emergency Preparedness database management tool you can download one for free from here
 
#36 ·
My wife and I moved around a lot before buying our current property. A trick I adopted early was to categorize (and label!) boxes of stuff as "A", "B", or "C". The "A" boxes are the first to get unpacked (and "A+" boxes get unpacked the very first day), "B" boxes get unpacked later as needed, and "C" boxes .. well, I think I still have some "C" boxes all taped up in the attic from a decade ago!

Between that, and verbose labeling of box contents, it's easy to find the stuff you need. It doesn't take very long to label and grade boxes compared to the time it takes to pack them, so there's no good reason not to.