People are already leaving California.

 

They have been for a while, and coming to Oregon, cant drive for CRAP!

 

Thank you for your response, but I would really like to keep this on the thread topic.

 

I feel you. You should really consider Florida. Its a great state. Cheap to live in and GREAT schools.

 

I can retire in December of this year - considering Pa.
Lived in NYC all my life - it's no longer the NYC I grew to love. The working class is just about gone - all we have are hipsters and urban pioneers!
I'll miss the night life and all there is to do - but I'll get over it!

 

I lived in Fla. From age 4 to 14. I tried to go back in 2000 and I couldn't stand it.

 

I would if I could. Probably Utah. They have a state firearm! :

 

I am moving from California to the Eastern Panhandle of West Virginia in the next few months.

My property taxes in California is $3,000.00 per year and in West Virginia will be about $300.00 per year.

My Car Registration in California is $600.00 per year and in West Virginia will be $30.00 per year.

My Truck Registration in California is $300.00 per year and in West Virginia will be $30.00 per year.

I live on a postage stamp lot 0.19 acres in California and will be purchase something with 2 or more acres in West Virginia.

 

I live in the great schit-hole of WA state. That said, I am from NY and miss it dearly, but consider myself blessed I don't live there anymore. (Was stationed in SoCal for a bit too, so I feel you pain there too.)

When considering your exodus for reasons of liberty you should consult this following study.

The Mercatus Institute's "Freedom in the 50 States"

This is an index of liberty (fiscal and personal) and comparison by state. It's really helpful. It's also something that I look at regularly in planning my exodus from Washingslum.

This index is two years old, A new one should be coming out this spring.

 

Hey, come to Kentucky. I don't see anyone who is going to take the guns from these good ole boys

P.S. I left New York for all of the reasons you mentioned and then some.

 

A-Team, I agree with your statement that people are leaving Komiformia. I have run into 3 different type arriving in my current area. The 1st type are those that could not stand the continued problems that was placed on living there. Taxes, loss of personal freedoms and threat to their safety. The second group is the slightly better off that sold their homes and moved out to an area where they can do better, business owners and such. These are the ones that cant understand that we do things differently in our part of the country. They want changes to our ways and laws. the last group I see everyday when I pass the welfare building. Komiformia plates on their cars lining up for their freebees. Then at the food stores getting there supply of snack foods complaining that they dont get as much foodstamps as they did in Komiformia. But there are more jobs they can work at out in the fields for cash and they can live cheaper in the rentals with Hud helping them. These are the same people that will stand there and tell you to your face its their right to be helped to raise their 4 to 6 kids. Because they cant afford to raise them their selves. Its all about their choices. They have destroyed one place and now move onto another. Some will adapt and become a viable help and productive member of their new home others will suck it dry while complaining and move on. My point being the good move and the bad move also. Its just that their a hell of a lot more of the bad and the Corrupt government loves the bad because they are the ones that continue to elect the Corrupt governments.

 

Be wary of Californian's moving to your area. Especially those no 2 types. They drive up house prices and try to change your area to look and feel more like the place they fled. Ask anyone from Oregon and Washington.

 

I have been in Colorado for 27 years, and have noticed the change here to. We are not as bad as some states, but we are on our way.

 

Try NH. Lived in Western VA, and that works too. Me, escaping sometime from PA, similar things will be happening here.

 

http://freestateproject.org/

 

My girlfriend and I are most likely headed down to South Carolina. If not there, within that same region. TN, KY. Something like that.

 

For now I am stuck here in the People's Republic of NY for a couple of reasons. I am very upset over this new gun law but I am reassured by several local Sheriff's and DA's coming out to say that they won't be enforcing or prosecuting it. I think if it isn't overturned first that this will blow up in Cuomo's face when no one comes out to register their rifles.

For now I guess I am stuck here behind enemy lines. :thumb:

 

My wife and I have been visiting, KY, TN, VA and WV all great places with lower taxes and more freedom to just live and breath. KY is the friendliest to they're retired folks. Again all have been great as we are looking for our place in the sun as we get closer to retiring and getting away from the craziness of NJ taxes, political corruption and handout abuse.

 

I wonder what the Governors of NY & CT would do if the gun manufacturers picked up lock stock & barrel and moved all of their operations out of these states ?????

 

They didn't seem to care very much when Tom Golisano packed up and headed to Florida due to high taxes. Then again, I didn't care either since he's a big buddy of Bloomberg.

 

As soon as I can -- it will look something like this --

 

My question is to the other NY'ers on here...are you moving out yet?

I smartened up when I saw the handwriting on the wall and moved from Long Island back in 1994.

 

And when I waved goodbye - you didnt even wave back

 

Do not move New Yorkers you already screwed up one state with your votes.

 

Why is it people blame EVERYBODY for the way a state votes? The Pres winning a state does not mean everybody voted for him. I live in PA. PA went for the President because the high populations around the cities swayed the voting of those of us in the rest of the state that voted Republican.

 

Out of those states I would choose KY or TN. I am stationed in Nc now, trust me you don't want to move here. Better in western NC but they have some wacky lawshere as well, and i think getting your vehicle inspected is absoloutely stupid. I have famiy in the tri state area of WV,OH,KY, I WOULD NOT move to WV. Also VA is a swing state going down hill. I'd rather live in SC than NC, much better. Better yet though, move to Alabama!

 

I am from Virginia but, unfortunately, I just moved to western PA. I miss VA a great deal. Virginia gun laws are pretty solid.

 

Been in PA for two years now . . . hate it. Miss the Shenandoah Valley.

 

I have read that TN has pretty high property taxes. I would love to move there though.

 

When I retire, maybe another 7-8years, Im outta here. Perhaps NC or Va, wish I knew more about Texas.

 

You really need to visit South East Texas. Very friendly to New Yorkers, close to NOLO, great economy unlike NYS.

 

I hail from Chicago, moved to FL panhandle a while back, spent about two years in Detroit, went back to FL, and am now in NC. - Hands down, FL has some of the best 2A-related laws, but the job opportunity isn't great there.

NC 2A laws are okay, but not great, and not nearly as good as FL. - Taxes are higher than I was paying in FL, most things cost more, but the job opportunity is solid, it's a growing area, we finally booted the lib-governor, and things seem to be changing for the better.

TX is great. TN is okay, VA has some cool areas. - I can't speak for living in any of these areas though.

I travel a lot with my wife, and there is simply no perfect place. You have to give up some things for other things. I would never move to a state that didn't allow CC, but I'm also not going to give up job opportunity, growth and my family's happiness for "the best" CC laws.

 

I live in SC and think it's pretty good (although no place is perfect!), so I would recommend that you consider it. Of the states on your list, KY and TN are pretty good; NC is a mixed bag (a lot more liberal than you might think); VA the same (the proximity to DC affects the overall state, although the western end is pretty good); and WV overall is quite leftist (although good about guns). You might consider Texas, too.