$55 for 10 servings of mac & cheese is a bit steep, even if they do add extra nutrients... surprisingly they are not using products from Oregon Freeze Dried Foods, they claim to be making everything in house in Reno NV. Worth keeping an eye on them but so far I'll just stick with my Mountain House, Augason Farms, Emergency Essentials, and a few others.... mac & cheese should be cheaper. I can get elbow macaroni and powdered cheese and take a multi vitamin for less but it's good to see other company's are starting to produce supplies. Looking forward to the price wars...

 

Thanks for looking into it. I agree it would be nice to get some competition of better quality foods. I agree that the way to go is elbow noodles and cheese powder in this case, or even a good stock of boxed mac and cheese if you eat it often enough to rotate it.

 

A lot of the survival food has way more salt than you need. Second is figuring out what's in their serving size for calories and nutritional value. I didn't look at your stuff, I'm reasonably sure I can package up or can way better stuff cheaper that I can buy.

The exception is Mt. house freeze dried for the BOB, weight and shelf life are important considerations over the price. I consider their 2 person unit to actually be a single serving.

Wise Foods isn't, buy something else.


Amazon Sucks!

 

A lot of the survival food has way more salt than you need. Second is figuring out what's in their serving size for calories and nutritional value. I didn't look at your stuff, I'm reasonably sure I can package up or can way better stuff cheaper that I can buy.

The exception is Mt. house freeze dried for the BOB, weight and shelf life are important considerations over the price. I consider their 2 person unit to actually be a single serving.

Wise Foods isn't, buy something else.


Amazon Sucks!

Yeah they've got the nutritional info listed on the cans, seems to be pretty solid. I was definitely full on a. erving. They have 72-hour and beyond kits that look promising and looks like they last about 25 years unopened. I am looking mostly for convenience and taste with that added nutritional kick.

 

Yikes. The price is ridiculous. I'm with JF. I'll take some other brand and a multivitamin first. I might make great camping food for it's convenience. But the company may have priced themselves out of a large share of the survivalist market.

 

Pricey food for sure.

 

20lbs of whole grain elbow macaroni - $41.27

Amazon.com : Dakota Growers Whole Grain Elbow Macaroni Pasta, 20 Pound -- 1 each. : Grocery & Gourmet Food

Amazon.com : Dakota Growers Whole Grain Elbow Macaroni Pasta, 20 Pound -- 1 each. : Grocery & Gourmet Food

www.amazon.com

1lbs of powdered cheese (62 servings) $11.99

https://www.amazon.com/Hoosier-Hill-Farm-Daddy-Pound/dp/B00X1LJZUG/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2/140-0559770-2277904?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00X1LJZUG&pd_rd_r=c86a1d90-1949-4bcd-8aaa-084d980b549e&pd_rd_w=V1e1R&pd_rd_wg=a2CY5&pf_rd_p=f325d01c-4658-4593-be83-3e12ca663f0e&pf_rd_r=GNYN6DHD0H7RKRQKRD42&psc=1&refRID=GNYN6DHD0H7RKRQKRD42

Total price $53.26 for the above or $55 for 10 servings of Nutrient Survival....

 

Correct that the pricing is cheaper. But also the quality of nutrition you are getting. Just because it's whole grain doesn't do much for me. If you are simply looking for cheap calories, then you've got a winner. I'm a bit more focused on being healthy and having the right kinds of ingredients.

 

If you're eating mac and cheese for nutrition then your plan is flawed somewhere else.

 

Well that's the point of the brand, it isn't basic elbows with powdered cheese. The nutritional aspects are a big part of it

 

The only other choice is a #10 can of rice and beans for $55 as well.

I'm not buying into their hype. Do they even have a registered dietician on staff? They are extremely vague about their actual credentials.

Adding vitamins isn't going to work either. 25 years? Added vitamins only last an extra few years, regardless of their packaging magic. The only vitamins guaranteed to last 25 years are the ones the food had in it to begin with.

As for feeling full on a serving of rice and beans or cheesy pasta, that's no surprise. The world has been carb loading for satiety for thousands of years now.

Suspicious too that you joined yesterday and spent all your posts so far trying to endorse a product.

So shill to the yuppie hiker types all you want, but this isn't the forum they hang out at. If everything they say about those cans are true they still aren't worth more than $20 a can.

I'll buy 25 year food from a company that has been around longer than 25 years.

 

The only other choice is a #10 can of rice and beans for $55 as well.

I'm not buying into their hype. Do they even have a registered dietician on staff? They are extremely vague about their actual credentials.

Adding vitamins isn't going to work either. 25 years? Added vitamins only last an extra few years, regardless of their packaging magic. The only vitamins guaranteed to last 25 years are the ones the food had in it to begin with.

As for feeling full on a serving of rice and beans or cheesy pasta, that's no surprise. The world has been carb loading for satiety for thousands of years now.

Suspicious too that you joined yesterday and spent all your posts so far trying to endorse a product.

So shill to the yuppie hiker types all you want, but this isn't the forum they hang out at. If everything they say about those cans are true they still aren't worth more than $20 a can.

I'll buy 25 year food from a company that has been around longer than 25 years.

Yikes. I mean you have to join at some point. I made one post about a food I've tried and wanted thoughts of others. I'm relatively new to these kinds of products and have been cognizant of them with this whole pandemic we are dealing with and prepping.

 

The usual rule is that when a new member comes in and immediately starts flogging some product, the odds are high that they have a vested interest in that product. That conclusion is pretty easy to come to based on survivalfrog:

A) being new
B) having 7 out of his/her 10 posts in this thread flogging nutrient-whatever. An 8th is in D)
C) being presented with cogent arguments why other choices are better, and defending nutrient-whatever
D) in the Mountain House vs Wise Foods smackdown, he/she is there flogging nutrient-whatever

I believe if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a duck. Or a spammer.

 

Mods have ways to check on such things and do actively watch for spammers, shills and such... if a person is still posting and you are able to see their posts it's a safe bet we do not consider them spammer or shills.

Newbies do often raise red flags but we do check them out. If this guy caused us to think he was a spammer... this thread would not even be here.

Cut him some slack. Let him learn. If he wants expensive mac & cheese with added nutrients and wants to tell others that may be looking for such... it's ok.
If others want to post about other options that's ok too.

We are all here to learn and share what we know with others that want to learn. Finding out about new brands of LTS food is a good thing. Mountain House and other brands are pretty strained right now and playing catch up. It is good to know there is another option and some may prefer that option and be willing to pay that price. Like I said before, hopefully the added competition will start a price war and make all the freeze dried foods come down in price.

 

For $55 I could buy over 70 cans of canned precooked pasta from Walmart.

 

You don't need to convince me of anything - do what you wanna do. It's all cool with me.

You are new, so don't know that I've made something of a habit of running down at least some minimal details on Chow outfits owing to too many folks getting screwed by the Bucket Chow sellers/resellers and their ilk. Readywise/WISE Foods comes to mind of late. They even have their own thread here - one of epic lengths - might be a good place for you to startig reading, BTW.

Would I buy from these guys? No - tto expensive. No - processed Chow ain't the best thing to eat. No - Company is (relativy) new to the market and seems focused on camping vice LTS.
And NO, one last time because there are too many other providers with a long and solid history of selling quality food at reasonable price points.

Do I care if you buy from them? Not in the least - it's your heard earned money. Spend it as you wish.

Oh, and
Welcome to the site. Read a lot of the pinned threads - you will get an idea of how the communication runs here.

Best of luck going forward.

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Sorry if I missed this in one of the posts above..isn't the nutritional value of food the first casualty of food put in LTS? The food you are paying $5 or more per serving may help you run marathons now...but in a couple of years, it may not have much more nutritional value than other options mentioned here.