Just seen this on Fox News, didn't see it posted here. They're saying that "explosions are imminent" and they are evacuating everybody in the area. Lots of hazardous materials on board. Been burning since Friday but today is the first time i've heard about it on the news.

NE Ohio train derailment: Photos, videos of other major train incidents in the Miami Valley (yahoo.com)

Hope the neighborhood and the farm animals remain unharmed. I wonder if it was carelessness on the part of the conductor or if sabotage came into play or if it was just weather related.

 

Been following this since Friday ,it’s been fairly well covered . The train received some sort of malfunction warning prior to derailment .

 

First time I have seen it on Lamestream news also. Whatever it is, must be big.

 

Well, it is a very local story so it's not surprising it's not on the front page of every major news site.

They said it was a bad axle on one of the cars.

 

If anyone finds any photos or video that shows the tracking numbers on any of the cars, let me know. Maybe I can pull up a manifest for the train to see what's on there.


Nevermind. I was able to find one. If I'm able to pull up the info, I'll post what updates I can.

 

I have a friend on site. He said one of the major concerns was vinyl chloride monomer. I asked him for a few pics, I'll share the #'s if I get them. He's not really replying to text messages, but that's to be expected. I'll know when the emergency is over when he starts replying on a normal cadence.

 

This one has been referenced in the media

Vinyl Chloride

VINYL CHLORIDE | CAMEO Chemicals | NOAA

cameochemicals.noaa.gov

Hazards

Fire Hazard
Special Hazards of Combustion Products: Forms highly toxic combustion products such as hydrogen chloride, phosgene, and carbon monoxide.

INHALATION: high concentrations cause dizziness, anesthesia, lung irritation. SKIN: may cause frostbite; phenol inhibitor may be absorbed through skin if large amounts of liquid evaporate. (USCG, 1999)

Carbon Monoxide (As Fire Byproduct)

CARBON MONOXIDE | CAMEO Chemicals | NOAA

cameochemicals.noaa.gov

Hydrogen Chloride (As Byproduct)

HYDROGEN CHLORIDE, ANHYDROUS | CAMEO Chemicals | NOAA

cameochemicals.noaa.gov

Phosgene (as byproduct) [Most Significant Health Hazard]

PHOSGENE | CAMEO Chemicals | NOAA

cameochemicals.noaa.gov

Health Hazard
Phosgene is a lung toxicant that causes damage to the capillaries, bronchioles and alveoli of the lungs, by decomposition to hydrochloric acid. There is little immediate irritant effect upon the respiratory tract, and the warning properties of the gas are therefore very slight. Pulmonary edema, bronchopneumonia and occasionally lung abscesses develop. Degenerative changes in the nerves have been reported as later developments. A concentration of 25 ppm is dangerous for exposures lasting 30-60 minutes and 50 ppm is rapidly fatal after even short exposure. (EPA, 1998)

PPE Recommendations:

Tychem C3 or better (Minimum for Phosgene) [not to be used around fire]
SCBA for IDLH or APF50 Full-Face Respirator for escape

 

This one has been referenced in the media

Vinyl Chloride

VINYL CHLORIDE | CAMEO Chemicals | NOAA

cameochemicals.noaa.gov

Hazards

Fire Hazard
Special Hazards of Combustion Products: Forms highly toxic combustion products such as hydrogen chloride, phosgene, and carbon monoxide.

From what I was told, they could not recover 5 cars, so they set charges to vent/burn them. Cleanup of the rail cars should start today.

 

I looked through the manifest. It looks like vinyl chloride is the most significant off-site threat. There are a number of other materials that can undergo explosive polymerization.

 

Anyone living anywhere near a RR line should learn from this and adjust your preps.

 

44,

One's preexisting preps "should" have plans for an evacuation..

Whether it's involving a RR HAZMAT incident or a vessel on Atlantic, got to be ready to evacuate.

 

Exactly why everyone should have a bug out bag with places to go by different means and paths - BECAUSE things happen. Stuff falls out of the sky or off the trucks; perhaps in your neighborhood.

 

I like how the officials said there was no threat immediately but then after checking issued evacuation under threat of removable. Maybe check the manifest and what's happening on the ground first.

 

No biggie, it's just PHOSGENE

Doh! Didn't they use that in WW I and WW II as a gas to kill people?

 

Who remembers Bhopal India......

 

This occurred about 17 miles SE from my house. I honestly didn’t even know about it until Monday morning, the 4th day. My aversion to consuming the propaganda of the mass media bit me
on the butt as I was caught unawares. No bad effects….this time… probably need to rethink just how disconnected from media I get.

There was a mandatory evacuation for a 1 mile radius around the wreak and more than a few folks left with only the clothes on their backs. Really drives home the need to have some sort of go bag ready with a least a minimum of meds, cash etc.. JIC. Think I’m gonna use this as a very direct warning to do just that.

 

My aversion to consuming the propaganda of the mass media bit me

I also hate the news. Many States and Counties have emergency apps that can send you push notifications. The Red Cross has one as well for local events and disasters. Not sure if this is your County but they have an alert system in place EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT

Montgomery County offers free CodeRED high-speed notifications. This emergency alert system sends severe and urgent Emergency Management and National Weather Service messages to residents and businesses by landline, cell phone, text message and email.

 

Everytime something like this hits the news, my inner conspiracy theorist wonder's what REALLY happened and why did they choose this story as a cover.

 

Wonder if that will seep into the groundwater? Could make the place toxic for decades.

 

'Wheels going everywhere' in massive train derailment in Wellington | wkyc.com

Overhead views.

"Move along, nothing to see here folks."

 

I’m sure Phillips and Jordan, the . Gov cleanup whores, are already there. And as a snide remark, they were probably there waiting for the derailment.

 

I saw a local news feed interviewing a resident who's chickens died shortly after the CONTROLED burn they did. The chickens were in a coop and no sign of predator's , also others in the next county were complaining of smell and burning eyes.
there's something going on the bald guy is the local fire chief and he looks pissed.

Ok not the video wear he was hot under the collar can't find that one. but here's is the chicken lady.

 

I saw a local news feed interviewing a resident who's chickens died shortly after the CONTROLED burn they did. The chickens were in a coop and no sign of predator's , also others in the next county were complaining of smell and burning eyes.
there's something going on the bald guy is the local fire chief and he looks pissed.

Chief is sleeping on a cot wherever they set up HQ, if he's sleeping at all, so I'd be short-tempered too. Also, it's his city, but he's not running the show. After the dog and pony show ends, he and the other locals will be stuck with the mess, and all the others "leading" the event will be gone. A lot of us have/had FEMA certification, and the thing they pound into your head is: they're in charge. Even my role in local gov, we don't have the resources for something like this, but also don't want the Feds running things around here. I'd be pissed too. Remember Katrina, I was mobilized for it... before folks could go down, they had to complete mandatory federal training (diversity, sexual harassment, the usual bull****).

 

Back in the 80’s, a female employee of the (then) Illinois Central RR was allowed to dead-head( ride free) in the locomotive cab..The engineer was a moron and let her drive…they derailed in downtown Livingston La..All sorts of nasty stuff caused the town to be evacuated for several weeks..
Engineer did federal prison time..hers was suspended..I never knew how much the RR insurers paid…
Just because someone is a ‘train engineer’ doesn’t mean they aren’t an idiot…

 

Anyone in the area?
Doesn’t sound good.

 

I saw a video of a polymerizing explosion … it was unlike anything I had seen before. It blew my mind. I have seen many explosions and all kinds of fires but that one was wild. I seem to remember it was in Japan where it was recorded. Wild to say the least!

 

Heard someone mention that usually the first story to come out about an accident is from the rail company … then news gets the story and it just gets parroted around until much later and real details are uncovered.

I am sure it’s worse than stated on the news.

 

Ohio train derailment: Controlled burn of toxic chemicals went 'as planned,' PA gov says

A controlled release of chemicals on a derailed train in Ohio has taken place, resulting in a large ball of fire and plume of black smoke, authorities said on Monday.

abcnews.go.com

Hey hey... someone's using HPAC software.

 

There is a class action law suit already started for people living up to 35 miles out from the accident.

 

Of course there is. The company will settle, the lawyers will make millions, and each injured party will receive $12.95.

 

Accidents happen, dealing with them ought not to be hard. Rail cars and other large tankers need to be equipped with the ancillary stuff so that hazmat truck/trailer units can pull up close and offload like 99% of the chemical. Uncontrolled thermal treatment is questionable at best.