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My hospital ER admission

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#1 ·
I was mostly off the board this week. I was admitted for a relatively serious medical emergency - gallstone stuck/passing putting strain on my liver and system. Without getting into it, in 2012 I had a serious issue on active duty that was now-obviously misdiagnosed as "gas". Severe 9/10 pain then. It re-occurred Wednesday 10 days ago. I endured it (thinking it was "gas") and 9/10 pain, pain subsided a bit and I worked Thurs & Fri to meet urgent work deadlines. By Saturday I could not endure it and went to the VA ER and was admitted where I underwent tests and procedures for 6 days. I was expecting discharge mid-week but they shifted gears and did more procedures. I'm home now, after almost a week of being gone. I'm all better, but will need a gallbladder removal soon.

My feedback and learning points.

* When you have serious pains, it's good to know your personal pain limits. This was very severe pain. But you should also have pain meds and antibiotics on hand IMO for such an event if you cannot get to a doctor. By the time I was able, I was seriously infected and needed a week of recovery.

* Being in a hospital sucks. It was my first admission in decades to my memory, and I've been both lucky and just too damn tough (or stubborn) to go to the hospital. I have been to the ER for injuries and serious illness, but not admitted before. Constant noise, very inconsiderate "roommates" with constant noise, etc. Food is okay. On the plus side, the staff and nurses and doctors were simply outstanding. Being it's the VA, I don't think I'll get a bill from what was probably a $50,000+ week. So if you don't have insurance this could cripple financially.

* There's nothing like being around others with serious problems to make you thankful for your own. I met amputees, cancer patients, etc. One roommate was a 27 year old OEF veteran with a missing limb and sclerosis of the liver from alcoholism.

* I have never taken a narcotic except for a couple vicodins in the early 1990s after wisdom tooth removal. With the serious concern over opiods and addiction (I've seen it ruin productive lives) I was very very worried about any opiods. After day 5 of pain, I reluctantly agreed to the smallest dose of oxycontin. I took it about 5 times. It worked very well, and I had no addiction to it. I declined a prescription for it, which they would have written had I insisted. Used responsibly, it's a great pain treatment tool.

* You learn who your reliable friends are. Some call or message, some ignore. I had two sets of friends to rotate dog care. One set will no longer be my friend as they royally screwed up. They overfed my dogs, fed them the wrong food, and didn't let them out enough. I came home to several dog messes, ruined expensive rug, and destroyed dog beds (which my dogs would not do unless very upset from neglect). These morons literally ignored common sense, and fed my dogs 1/2 month worth of food during their 3 days' of dog-sitting (They fed two adult dogs 1/2 of a 28 pound bag of dog food + home made food in 3 days - even a kid would know that's too much. There's food feeding charts on the bag for Pete's sake). Causing both my dogs obvious weight gain and upset stomachs (they still are gassy), and the messes. They turned off my home security systems, and failed to follow other simple instructions when I asked them to throw out all the veggies and put all the meats in the freezer. I returned to spoiled smelly ruined foods. The second set of friends totally failed me, and then got angry at me for a very petty reason because I wanted my keys back at a time that was a minor inconvenience to them. (BTW, these are friends I've given probably thousands of dollars of free legal advice to, I've driven them to the airport at ultra early hours four times for them, helped them with various projects, etc. I've rarely asked them to help me out and on balance have given far more than I've received.). In total, this has ended my friendship with the 2nd set of unreliable idiots. This is just a reminder to surround yourself with reliable, trustworthy, competent people.

* I feel good having not had coffee or booze for a week of "detox." Think I lost some weight from feeding restrictions.
 
#2 ·
Glad to see you are ok and are back home. I am sorry about the "second set of friends" But sometimes you have to live and learn. I personally choose not to have very many friends as they will stab you in the back for self gain every chance they get. But again, I am happy that you are fine now.
 
#3 ·
Glad to see you are recovering well. And nothing like being in the hospital to notice people in much worse conditions. Good perspective and report. Wise decision on limiting use of narcotics. They have and do destroy lives quickly.
 
#5 ·
I had to hunt for weeks before I could find someone to feed my cats anything. Babies didn't lose weight so my friend must have figured it out.

No one cleaned my fridge. No one cleaned anything. I had all that fun on my own, every time he went into the hospital.

I did have some awesome people who took me through drive throughs which I really appreciated, and reliable transit to visit him and get home.

Focus on counting your blessings. You had 2 different people who came when you called. That is good, and significant.

I've had gallbladder trouble, it's not fun but I can't get surgery. I can't afford the recovery time. Happily I haven't had any issues in years.

Hope you feel better soon.
 
#6 ·
Everyone has there strengths, friends included.

You get what you pay for, be thankful to those who help you at all

Sure they might have screwed up bad but if they really were that clueless about what they were doing, they needed either clearer instructions or to be not given that particular task to do.

I have friends who I could call in the middle of the night to bring me a bag of lime and a shovel but wouldnt trust them to feed my kids appropriately. And I have friends who I think would do great at raising my kids but would be zero help if I needed a hand fixing my truck.

You can pick your battles but you cant always pick your help
 
#11 ·
The instructions were clear and it's not complicated. "Open back door. Let dogs out. Let dogs in. Put 1 cup of food from containers in pantry into food bowl. Let dogs eat. Leave."

Somehow that got lost in translation to: "Ignore food in pantry in containers. Ignore all dietary feeding requirements. Locate a new bag of dog food. Tear it open. Pour 4x the daily amount into bowls. Leave dogs to **** and **** all over house."

I'm not kidding when I say that in 3 days they fed my dogs 1/2 of a 28 pound new bag of dog food. And it's not their normal food so all "slowly introduce new food to diet" advice was ignored. One dog is still bloated and suffering and gassy, days later. And I have a torn open bag of dog food that I have no containers to put it in b/c those are full of dog food that was SUPPOSED to be used.

Dogs can literally die from over-eating and bloat, it should be mentioned.
 
#7 ·
When I had my last back operation(11/18) I was told I would need pain meds for the rest of my life. So once a month, I go see my pain management doctor, and he gives me a script for 120 oxy 30mg.

What he does'nt know is I only take them when I am in SEVERE pain, which is maybe 4-6 times a month. And then I only need maybe 2-3 tablets to get me through. So I am sitting on a large supply of the little blue bastards:thumb:. My wife jokes that we could buy a good, used SUV if we decided to go into sales, if you know what I mean:cool:

On a serious note, I grew up Straight Edge. And when I was told I would need these pills for the remainder of my life(I'm only 51) I did'nt want to do that. I was getting too used to taking them the prescribed "4 times a day". So I quit "cold turkey". It was pure HELL for about 5 days, and plain old HELL for about 2 weeks, but I quit. Which tells me that all these junkies out there what cry "I can't take the withdrawl. Its terrible!" yeah, they are right. It is certainly terrible. But its just a crybaby who won't try going through it. Because if I could go through it, ANYONE CAN.

Now, granted, I was only on these pills about 1 year when I decided to quit, but don't EVER believe these scumbags when they say "it can't be done". Because I proved that it can be done.

So when TSHTF, I am very set with high grade pain meds. So much so, that if some of the crack heads in our mountain town knew I was sitting on quite a few of the little blue bastards(as I call them), I'd be the victim of a home invasion or a break in by tonight.

Good thing I am armed:thumb:
 
#8 ·
Glad you're okay brother.

Denied pain killers after injury and surgery, but a shot of morphine was a Godsend when I had a kidney stone. Has it's place for acute situations. Antibiotics without pathology is a crap shoot. Reckon some chance is better than no chance if it comes to that. I keep some broad spectrum on hand.

Animals can make it hard to be gone for any length of time. So can family and work.
 
#9 ·
Glad you are ok, glad you did not contract that flesh eating **** too..many folks come out of the hospital worse....

Friends, gotta cull some at times, better not than in a more serious shtf moment...

ps...i would have taken the script for the pain meds and stashed em, too valuable not too..just my .0002 worth...
 
#13 ·
Don't let Gall Bladder issues go too far. I delt with the pain up to the point I passed out one night at work. Went to my Dr the next morning - he had me in the hospital that day. Needed emergency GB removal surgery the following morning. They told me the toxins in my blood from the failed GB were so high I would have induced some sort of organ failure within days.
Some types pain CAN kill you....
 
#14 ·
Thanks. I didn't do it on "purpose." As I said it was mis-diagnosed as "trapped gas" in 2012. And it subsided within 12 hours in the ER in 2012. I assumed the pain was from the same thing, and therefore didn't go in right away.

Pain was manageable discomfort for 2 following days last week, until it hit again and I went to the ER knowing it could be more serious.
 
#16 ·
Wish you lived closer I would have took care of the dogs
You should plan for the next time now perhaps find someone willing to stay at your place at least part of the time so the dogs will not feel neglected perhaps the one set of friends can be salvaged they need to be trained on how to take care of animals like this food this much of it the messes should have been cleaned up ASAP as well as referigater but least those two showed up and tried unlike the others
Glad you are doing better
 
#18 ·
Word of warning. My wife had her gall bladder taken out about 8 years ago. For a long time if she ate anything she was on the toilet almost anything. Take that into account after you have it removed.
 
#20 ·
You learn who your reliable friends are. Some call or message, some ignore. ... One set will no longer be my friend as they royally screwed up...The second set of friends totally failed me... In total, this has ended my friendship with the 2nd set of unreliable idiots. This is just a reminder to surround yourself with reliable, trustworthy, competent people
Leadcounsel, I am sorry for all your troubles.

Your post shows me what this site is most lacking, an enthusiastic thread dedicated to forming a DPN, Disaster Preparedness Network. It is my weakest area and I suspect many here on SB. :(
 
#22 ·
Yes. I have at least one that is enormous. Maybe others. I've now probably passed one or more over these two events. I was told I must have my gallbladder removed. There is no debate. A stone could lodge and kill me, basically. Destroy my liver. Cause pancreatitis. I was told there are life threatening risks to keeping it. Say I'm out camping far from a modern hospital or traveling or etc. etc. etc.

I really don't see a choice. I'd prefer to keep it. If there was an option, I would. I'm not seeing/hearing an option.

I was thinking there should be a procedure to incision into the gallbladder to suck out all the stones. But I could find no literature and the medical teams had no idea about such a process.
 
#23 ·
Gald to hear you are ok and you now have the correct diagnosis.

* You learn who your reliable friends are.
Unfortunately this is true, hard times will show you who your real friends are. Sorry the dogs had to suffer and you had to deal with the mess. Wife and I had a few similar situations over the last couple of years with similar results; have widdled down to 2 couples we really can count on.
 
#24 ·
Like everyone else glad to hear all is good and your home. When it comes to people taking care of our pets I have been blessed with the wife's best friend helping out.
Couple years ago the best friend ended up buying the house straight across the street from us. We watch her pets she watches ours and on top of that the husband is ex LEO and ex military so he watches the our house like a hawk.
 
#29 ·
I recognize the apparent inconsistency. I had a moral dilemma and ultimately telling the truth about my pain level was both the ethical thing (I don't lie, especially to try to obtain narcotics) and smarter for correct diagnosis and timely release from the hospital. If they thought I was in an exaggerated level of pain they may have decided to keep me another day or that the procedure they did failed. That may have complicated their decision making. Or been a transparent lie. These were undesirable outcomes.

Given my reluctance for about the first 2 days to accept the Oxy they had offered, I felt I had a rapport and trust with my doctor. So I was honest and said the pain was currently gone, but I was legitimately afraid of an attack and wanted at least a few pills on hand. I gambled that my honesty would pay off, but it didn't. They did not write the script. I wasn't too surprised.

I also know that in a month I'll be back and have another surgery, and I'm certain following that I'll be given a script for pain meds.

I did however leave with my integrity, and gallbladder, intact.

In the meantime, pain meds include OTC stuff like aspirin, IBU, etc. which many people don't have much on hand.
 
#27 ·
From the sounds of it you had a real bad time of it. Too bad your "friends' left you with a additional problem to face when coming home. I have found through the years that there are just a few reliable people. And among that small segment there is even a smaller amount of those that can follow instructions as given or think for themselves when needed to. It generally helps with the others if they are being paid to accomplish the task. That focuses the mind for them.

You might see if there is a neighborhood teenager babysitter that would take care of your pets. Young people wanting to earn money tend to be more reliable than adult causal friends doing favors.
 
#28 ·
I’m sorry to hear about your gallstone troubles. We nearly lost two folks in my family from complications after similar conditions. It’s so important to take this seriously. Thanks for that reminder.

Your issue with emergency pet care is an important wake up call, too. We are lucky to have family living nearby, but haven’t preemptively prepared them on how to care for our menagerie, so that’s on the To Do list, too.

Thanks.
 
#32 ·
Just figured I'd post an update, now a week later. It's been a busy week.

My health is fine. I've been more cautious about diet, eating smaller and less fat portions (I didn't have a really fatty diet before).

But while I was in the hospital I learned the test on a lump on my dog's leg came back as aggressive cancer. So this week we urgently got a CT scan, and the good news is the cancer had not spread and it was isolated to just the lump. Not yet wrapped around leg or joints. So we had to act fast to save her leg from amputation. The surgeons think they successfully cut off all the cancer with no intrusion into muscle or leg joints, etc. So the miracle of modern medicine appears to have saved my dogs leg - but it wasn't cheap....

Been a very busy couple of weeks... thankfully my dog and me seem to be okay now.