In my option and experience, San Diego has the best yearly weather, but even though we owned some land (NE of San Diego), politics and cost of living placed it out of reach for us. Texas and Florida were our next considerations but being within a days drive to family up north pointed us to Florida. No State income tax, decent yearly weather, cost of living slightly better than Midwest State we grew up in, all said mid Florida and away from any large cities. Hurricanes are a risk but everywhere we lived there is a Mother Nature risk of one thing or another. We simply purchased a small piece of land to build on that’s close to the gulf but 125’ above sea level. Check out Citrus county Florida...

 

What’s the fauna and flora like over there? Subtropical and gators?

 

Ohio is out if cold is out. We are the eastern edge of one of two black belts of great soil in the US. Almost as vibrantly green as Ireland.

The Carolinas just east of the mountains get a little snow but have very modrrate seasons and good soil. The upper Gulf Coast staes are the other Black Belt of great soil. Like the Carlinas it is quite moderate, humid in the summer and frost in the winter. The prolem west of the Mississippi is that its dry alot with patchwork areas of soil with high clay contents, that means drilled deep wells and lots of fertilizer. The southern border states have alot of dry, alot of hot and alot of feral pigs....a sounder of pigs can thouroughly root up an acre of field a night eating planted seed. Great eating but highly destructive. The northrrn border states get seriously, dangeroudly cold, the eastern edge are wet, very wet.

The northeast is a deathtrap if things get hairy....heavily populated along the coast, very heavily populated, on the level of rush hour LA, every day, even at night in the corridors. You covered the West Coast.

Its a fight here but I'll stay. I would move directly south if need be. Definitely east of the Mississippi. Cold doesnt bother me, ice does.

 

Ohio is out if cold is out. We are the eastern edge of one of two black belts of great soil in the US. Almost as vibrantly green as Ireland.

The Carolinas just east of the mountains get a little snow but have very modrrate seasons and good soil. The upper Gulf Coast staes are the other Black Belt of great soil. Like the Carlinas it is quite moderate, humid in the summer and frost in the winter. The prolem west of the Mississippi is that its dry alot with patchwork areas of soil with high clay contents, that means drilled deep wells and lots of fertilizer. ....

Like many Easterners, you have your M rivers confused. The dry part of the American Desert start West of the MISSOURI.

 

Consistant climates can make for harsh climates. SC has the best climate.

 

Hawaii.

Stay far far away from MT. It was 49º today, predicted to be 96º next week.

 

DITTO..

My sister lived there in Honolulu for years. The difference between winter and summer was about 5 degrees.

BUT

IT R EXPENSIVE and seriously puts the crap in democrap.

 

Parts of the southwest (Nevada, Arizona & New Mexico) have some seasonal variations in temperature, but tend to avoid anything like major snowstorms. The downside will be ready access to water. They all tend to be prepper-friendly.

 

Southern Alaska is supposed to have pretty mild winter temps and mild summers.

In Juno the record temps are -22 and 90. I realize that still puts it in the 4 season category but it is much more consistent and mild than most of the mid west.

 

I appreciate the approach--you've indicated what's optimal for you, not for anyone else.

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I'm not sure you're going to find the perfect spot--every place has its positives and negatives. It just depends on how cold is too cold for you.

I lived in central Missouri for a few years, found its climate agreeable. It'd snow every once in a while, but if twice a winter that was a lot. It's far enough north that the cold fronts from Canada would sweep out the hot and humid air from time to time so we'd get a break.

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I lived in Texas and NC for a while. I found both to be unreasonably hot for me in the summer. Some people like that. It's why I'd struggle in South Carolina, for instance. The summers are....HOT. Humid.

On the positive side of that, you're not fighting to heat a house in temps that drop 30 or 40 degrees below freezing in the winter. On the negative side, it gets HOT.

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There are other factors that matter for me besides climate. My friends, my job, my family are all here. I think there are climatically-better places I might live, but the social cost would be high. Yeah, I could make new friends, but that's not as easy as it seems.

So factor that in too. Maybe not an issue for you. It is for me. I shoot trap, am a member of a club. I'd have to find a new one if I moved. There are two such clubs here, one more convenient to me, one less convenient. I am a member of the less convenient club because I like the people so much better. Would I find such a club like the second if I moved? Or more like the first?

I also like golfing. The cost to golf where I live is stupidly cheap. In some of the more climatically-acceptable areas, that's a big cost.

Anyway, those are other factors to consider. Either way, good luck with your decisionmaking.

 

Florida, S. Mississippi, Alabama, Some parts of Texas. We chose FL. 4 seasons, but mild. You can get away from the cold by going further S. in Florida. Lots of agricultural land, aquifer is reasonably shallow, plenty of rain. Cheap land outside of major congested areas.

 

Bluefield ,West Virginia... its nickname is "Natures air condition city "

 

I live in western wa. state, 2000ft elevation,It does rain alot spring and late fall, but It is a beautiful state , except for the government here being bright BLUE, Im 5 miles from mt rainier,I like the 4 seasons, fall being my favorite. but like I said it does rain alot,40 years in my home, and all in all i dont regret it.Winters average more rain then snow but we can and have received 2 ft in 1 night .

 

Isn't it weird that the Democrats have the pretty areas? It's almost like you gotta care about nature to protect it! Weird how that works.

 

As already mentioned, San Diego area is probably the best in the nation. That said, I've lived here for more than 25 years and am fed up with CA state politics. San Diego politics are almost tolerable and there are conservative municipalities in the county.

For our exit, we're looking at the Prescott/Prescott Valley/Chino Valley/Dewey-Humbolt area of Arizona. It's about 100 miles N of Phoenix and about 5,000' elevation. Summers are very tolerable and winters will maybe get a couple inches of snow that melts by noon. Looking at city-data.com, of the three most common "moved from" locations to the Prescott area, two were from elsewhere in AZ and the third was from San Diego County. And AZ ranks #1 in the nation with its gun laws!

 

Agreed....we just moved to the area from San Diego East County. The weather is almost as good as SD, the COL is MUCH lower ($20k yr or so) and the politics are just what we like...extremely conservative. And yes, gun laws are the best in the country.

 

In the U.S.? Hawaii.

 

slab city California
that's why all the err.. ah... misfits are out there the weather was why the air force built the base there.

 

Florida has fairly modest temperature swings between winter and summer. In the map below, the darker the color the lower the temp differential.

But that does not mean the temperature is pleasant year round. South FL is hot n humid for our 6 month long summer. The Oregon and Washington coast can be downright dismal too.

If you click on the link, you can zoom in on the map. You'll find that San Fran CA and Key West, FL have the lowest temp swing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeau...taisbeautiful/comments/7l77m6/parts_of_the_us_that_experience_the_greatest_and/

 

Florida has fairly modest temperature swings between winter and summer. In the map below, the darker the color the lower the temp differential.

But that does not mean the temperature is pleasant year round. South FL is hot n humid for our 6 month long summer. The Oregon and Washington coast can be downright dismal too.

If you click on the link, you can zoom in on the map. You'll find that San Fran has the lowest temp swing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeau...taisbeautiful/comments/7l77m6/parts_of_the_us_that_experience_the_greatest_and/

Thanks, this is a great map.

Seems like the depraved and degenerate amongst us also dislike temperature variances! All the areas with low temperature swings are heavily liberal leaning.

 

Outside of Ca, Ha, Texas. Would you believe Georgia comes in at fourth before Fl. The South Carolina comes in at 6th behind Fl.

 

Areas with "nice" weather are FULL of people and make a poor location for prepping.

 

After living all over the US and in most US friendly foreign countries, I like the middle states on the western side of the Appalachians. Get a few days above 100 in the summer to run out some of the Yankees, and a few days below freezing in the winter to kill off the bad bugs and skeeters. I don't like riding my bikes when the weather is cool or cold and currently I ride about eight months of the year. Good area for growing crops and animal feed, low population density, good hunting and fishing, plenty of room to get away from crowds.
Downside is that the Yankees have discovered the area and are flooding in like loud, obese, obnoxious locusts. It's almost a custom to yell "go back to New York" when a native hears one of them whining and complaining at the top of their lungs. I'd welcome a few really bad summers and winters to either kill them off or run them down to South New York AKA Florida. The younger ones have a taste for meth, oxy, and theft.

 

Most consistant climate sure aint Oklahoma.
We go from 90F to snow to tornados in just one week.
I love it, but it aint for sissies.

 

Large landmasses have volatile climates, especially near the centre.
So, look at places near the coast for more stability or indeed Hawaii as mentioned earlier.

 

Would it be some desert. Where the weather is consistently terrible?

 

Nothing "consistent" about the desert and it isn't always terrible. In 29 Palms (Mojave Desert) we had everything from quite pleasant weather, to monsoons, to 100+ temps for months to below freezing and snow.

 

The Washington coast, but, as mentioned before, you have to have a high tolerance for dumbocrats. In most of these places the land is also pretty expensive, and difficult to get larger parcels. I think the SW corner of Alaska also has a temperate zone. When I started looking for land I had a boatload of requirements. Reality (cost, political fauna, etc) set in quickly. I bought some land, though am still looking for another piece that gets 20-30" of rain a year and has no HOA...way different than my requirements 10 years ago.

 

South Alabama where I live is pretty darn good. I have a neighbor selling two lots of about 3/4 an acre size for 160k total with Bay access "huge"low taxes and 1/2 mile from 1000+ acres. Unicorporated so you can have fruit trees and chickens "many neighbors have chickens". Its kind of like 1980 here still and mostly retirement/we border a farming community on one side and beach city on the other. Small town of about 1,000 people lots of fishermen and mostly ex military with an insanely low crime rate and 15 minutes to the beach 30 to 1 hour to the cities. PM me if anybody is interested, this is an advertisement for a good neighbor that preps as well.

 

South Alabama where I live is pretty darn good. I have a neighbor selling two lots of about 3/4 an acre size for 160k total with Bay access "huge"low taxes and 1/2 mile from 1000+ acres. Unicorporated so you can have fruit trees and chickens "many neighbors have chickens". Its kind of like 1980 here still and mostly retirement/we border a farming community on one side and beach city on the other. Small town of about 1,000 people lots of fishermen and mostly ex military with an insanely low crime rate and 15 minutes to the beach 30 to 1 hour to the cities. PM me if anybody is interested, this is an advertisement for a good neighbor that preps as well.

That's stupid expensive. With that beach city (tourists) and only a half hour away from larger cites the area makes a poor prep location. You really aren't as out of the way as you think. Plus that close to beach means hurricanes and flooding. You are looking for a prepping neighbor but a basic tenant of good prepping is to avoid all those things.

We paid $160K for 36 fenced acres that came with a 1452sqft log cabin, well and electric power. Property taxes are just a hair over $500.

We recently bought the neighboring 36 acres for another $16K. Including us, there are literally 6 people living in the square mile our property is in.

There was (might be off market) a 36 acre parcel for sale nearby me with power and guaranteed to hit water for $17.9K.

Out here it's more like 1880 than 1980.

 

160k for 1.5 acres? Nope...

 

Keep in mind when the temp is between 30 degrees F and 50 degrees F but always wet and rainy it can be much more miserable than a temps of 0f to 30 f but with the sun shining and dry.

Same in the summer, humidity AND high temps are much worse than humidity OR high temps.

 

Taking a leaf from the Israeli's book, you have to engineer wherever you live, to have a benevolent environment that feeds and clothes you.

BAD LAND BLUES? WASHED AWAY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Israel

Modern agriculture developed in the late nineteenth century, when Jews began settling in the land. They purchased land which was mostly semi-arid, although much had been rendered untillable by deforestation, soil erosion and neglect. They set about clearing rocky fields, constructing terraces, draining swampland, reforesting, counteracting soil erosion, and washing salty land. Since independence in 1948, the total area under cultivation has increased from 408,000 acres (1,650 km2) to 1,070,000 acres (4,300 km2), while the number of agricultural communities has increased from 400 to 725. Agricultural production has expanded 16 times, three times more than population growth.
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Another example of engineering one's environment

One of the most impressive means to deal with hardpan soil and extreme summer heat were the underground gardens of Baldasare Forestiere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forestiere_Underground_Gardens

The catalyst for the construction of the underground abode was a result of the hot summers typical of the Fresno area. The inspiration lends itself to ancient Roman catacombs that Baldasare was infatuated with in his youth. Countless hours were spent excavating the hardpan layer that cements much of Fresno's soil to create his underground home. It had a summer bedroom, a winter bedroom, a bath, a functional kitchen, a fish pond, and a parlor with a fireplace.

Interspersed amongst the beautiful stone walls and archways are grottoes and courtyards that allow for pockets of light. The intricate pathways were created section by section, over a span of 10 acres, without the aid of blueprints.
There are 65 rooms in the Forestiere Underground Gardens. The gardens, while subterranean, have many skylights and catchbasins for water.

The plants and trees, some of which are over 100 years old, are protected, by virtue of construction, from the frost in the winter months. Each level was planted at different times, so they bloom in succession, in order to lengthen the growing season. It houses a variety of fruit ranging from citrus and berries to exotic fruits like the kumquat, loquat, and jujube. The trees have been grafted to bear more than one kind of fruit, allowing for a larger variety to be grown throughout the space. Trees and vines were also planted above the dwelling, acting as insulation and forming canopies that provide protection from the elements.
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Visitors are amazed how much cooler it is in the underground gardens, during the mid day heat.
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Type in "rice terraces" into your search engine, and marvel at the many many mountainsides made into lush farmland. Humanity has been reforming the raw land into human habitat for millennia.
There really is no "bad land" or "bad climate" - just opportunities for creative industrious people.


Go buy cheap, crappy land in miserable climates, and unleash your endowed right to live, prosper and thrive.