I'd be careful with it. I'm 62 and it is of interest, but haven't gone that route.

Could give you a heart attack, mood swings, cancer. I've already had one small heart attack, that is why I'm lery of it.

 

A friend of mine did the pellet therapy in his late 50's/early 60's. He said he felt great, and could tell when the pellet wore off and needed to be replaced. He had to stop the therapy due to cardiac problems.

 

Haven't had it done and have never been tested for it but I have a feeling I should look into it. I'm losing hair on my legs and under my arms, I have a lower libido, and I am showing symptoms of something called BPH. Fortunately my Doctor's appointment is closer now than it was When I made it earlier this (In January) year. My appointment is October 11

 

I have a DR's appointment in October too, and I plan to address hair loss and regrowth too. I used to road race bicycles and the hair on my legs is not what I would call heavy like it used to be. I had open heart surgery and they shaved one of my legs and my chest for the surgery. If I can regrow the hair, why not? What issues are there in using these drugs?

Going to ask the Dr about Minoxidil


MY NOTES:
Minoxidil, a key ingredient in foams like the brand Rogaine, is being popularized in an oral pill form — just as it once was in the late 1980s and early 1990s prior to scalp-rubbing treatments.

The best part is that it’s substantially cheaper than foam treatments, according to Dr. Amanda Doyle, a board-certified dermatologist with Manhattan’s Russak Dermatology Clinic.

The pill can make patients grow hair throughout their entire body — as opposed to foams that are applied only to one’s scalp.

“It can stimulate hair growth or what’s called hypertrichosis on the temples and sideburns

 

Eat what they ate 200 year's ago keep the modern processed food to a minimum 1% or less of your diet. And dramatic changes should occur.

 

Bingo. My boss is 55 or 56 and had some issues with low-t. He went paleo and it made a huge difference for him.

 

Lot of choices / options... but be sure to check a DHEA, as if that is low, it sometimes will raise the testosterone if you take it... and it's OTC, cheap and not a controlled drug like testosterone. Like testosterone, too much is bad.... so DO NOT just take some !!!

 

Thanks gents, as this topic is NOT widely discussed, most mainstream doc, have no clue..

My hot little ginee wife, yoga instructor, alternative medical chick, suggested we look at other options.

I trust her, and the research i did into this, and feedback from some of her female yogis who have done this, is very positive.

these pellets are blended based on blood levels, and the monitored along the way for efficacy, and adjusted as blodd tests determine proper range.

bypasses kidneys and liver, zero to little side effects...

its a tough admission to make, but i am not that young para anymore or that guy guy that could ride 100miles on my road bike, or go all out in a muay thai class...

i stalk trout, wade fishing for 8-12 hours at times, and just never gave it a thought, until now.

I will keep this updated, etc..

I wish you all the best, health matters, and especially the mental side of this...

\\NNNN

 

bypasses kidneys and liver

It "may" not adversely effect them but it doesn't bypass them otherwise there would be no way that,

pellets are blended based on blood levels, and the monitored along the way for efficacy, and adjusted as blodd tests determine proper range.

Not pro or con just pointing out that if your research told you that the therapy bypasses the liver and kidneys you got bad intel. Also anything you put in your system has the potential for side effects, perhaps less comparatively but not zero. I do not have experience working with pellets but have prescribed lots of injectable and topicals to patients. Hormone replacement can work wonders but does come with risks. Your health care provider should with a good understanding of your health history be able to stratify those risks for you. It is important to understand that exogenous hormone when introduced will suppress your natural hormone production and if already flagging it will not likely return to pre therapy level of function if therapy is discontinued. From a prepper standpoint if SHTF or any other reason and you don't have access to testosterone supplementation you are potentially going to find yourself running on the natural levels of an 8 year old little girl. Natural measures to boost your own production such as suggested in a couple of the prior replies will not have this effect #TENNGRIZZ, #the_keeper

 

I was diagnosed with a tumor in my skull when I was twenty seven. It was the size of a large egg and had totally destroyed my Pituitary Gland but had not penetrated the dividing membrane into the actual brain. At the time, the surgery was pretty cutting edge. Mine was the third in the South East Quadrant. (Whatever that means!) The Neurosurgeaon wrote an article with his theory of how I was able to live with no Pituitary Gland. Other parts of my brain took over as the Pituitary failed. As far as the surgery is concerned, lets just say my face hurt for a long time and my nose never worked right afterwards. The worst pain was from the screw holes that they drilled into my skull to secure the optics but they didn't have to pop my skull, thank God!

I've been on total Hormone Replacement since I was twenty seven. I'm sixty five now. In the time between, I had a thirty year career in Law Enforcement, owned a firearms business and spent twenty of those years in the highest activity units in our Department. I loved the spontaneous activity and yeah, I liked to fight! Sorry! Plus a thirty one years and still counting marriage. I know a little about Steroids and Testosterone!

I tried the gels. It was a waste of time. The patches gave me a rash and didn't work anyway. I guess my hide is to thick! Injections for me. I started out from day one doing my own injections and setting my own dosages on both, Testosterone and Steroids among other things. Back then, it was a full months dosage into the big leg muscle three inches deep. Testosterone is very thick, like motor oil. Your choice. Big needle, big pain, short time versus little needle, little pain long time. Then it laid in that muscle and was the size of a golf ball so it hurt bad for three days. My girl friend always kept track of my injection schedule so she could take a few days off when the whirlwind hit. She loved it! Later on in life, I adjusted my dosages to match my lifestyle. Multiple smaller dosages hurt less and run smoother.

I'm sixty five now and doing pretty good. I walk with a cane due to past injuries but no real side effects from the tumor. However be forewarned: Testosterone treatment will cause the death of your "On board descendants"! I was given a ten percent chance of surviving the operation. If I survived, I was given a ten percent chance of moving anything besides my eyeballs and they would be blind. I didn't have good odds. I survived the surgery just fine but did not expect such a long and Blessed life! I beat the odds on that one! However, there is one big complaint. If I had known I was going to live so long, I would have taken better care of my body!

 

Do yourself a huge favor and see an endocrinologist.

 

Had my first pellets in March 2022. Due for my second dose in a few days. Workouts and libido went up. Satisfied with the results and plan to continue. FWIW, I started the "peter pills" about the same time as my first testosterone treatment, so that probably accounts for some of the libido. I'm 56-years-old.

 

At 54 I started injectable test cyp . Was on it for 18 months and quit. For me the ball shrinkage was alarming so I stopped. I'm now 59 and my numbers are really good for an old guy . Always a downside along with every upside .

 

Yeah, that's a problem. It seems like the body sense any excess and then decides you don't need the things. That happens with Steroids too. In my personal case, it was Replacement treatment. I wasn't going over max levels for my self so my body just assumed it was all systems normal.

 

I've been on them for a couple of years. The pellets produce estrogen, a DIMM capsule is taken daily to turn the estrogen into testosterone. I had tried the various medical testosterone supplements such as the topical and injections and they wouldn't work for me. The pellets are all I've found that seem to work. LOL Funny thing is the ones I get (don't know if there are any others) are derived from sweet potatoes. According to my Dr as your blood pumps it picks up the estrogen, he says for him a round of the pellets last about 4.5 to 5 months during the summer since he's more active then. During the winter they will last about 8 months since he's less active. LOL I'll be 69 first of the year, I'm not as active as he is, I can usually go a little over 6 months per round but about one month after a renewal when he say's they jump my testosterone from about 200 (very low) to close to 900 what ever units they use LOL. I get about 10 pellets each time spread out under the skin from one incision.

 

Brave of you to bring this up.

Ihave been on one form or another for well over 10 years,started with the gel and hated it but did it for years.

Then went to the pellets and they are on for at least a decade now.

It could just be genetics,but I am told I look and act as if I am 15 to 20 years younger than my age [ 75 this month ].

I still hunt,shoot,ride my trike,and act as if I am much younger.

I still hit the gym at least twice a week ,even 3 times and yes I lift and get a pump still.

The pellets are a pain in the ass,literally.

But that lasts only a few days,and yes I get 10 pellets and I get tested often to see that my blood and liver etc functions are ok.

The only down side I have noted is my blood gets thicker than otherwise,so I donate just to thin it out.

Good luck with your choices.

Love to hear how and what you decide.

PT me if your shy about it.

And yes ,it helps in 'other ways' too !!!.

 

Brave of you to bring this up.

Ihave been on one form or another for well over 10 years,started with the gel and hated it but did it for years.

Then went to the pellets and they are on for at least a decade now.

It could just be genetics,but I am told I look and act as if I am 15 to 20 years younger than my age [ 75 this month ].

I still hunt,shoot,ride my trike,and act as if I am much younger.

I still hit the gym at least twice a week ,even 3 times and yes I lift and get a pump still.

The pellets are a pain in the ass,literally.

But that lasts only a few days,and yes I get 10 pellets and I get tested often to see that my blood and liver etc functions are ok.

The only down side I have noted is my blood gets thicker than otherwise,so I donate just to thin it out.

Good luck with your choices.

Love to hear how and what you decide.

PT me if your shy about it.

And yes ,it helps in 'other ways' too !!!.

Thanks for the first hand account, thats great results for you, i would love those too.

I will keep apprised...

 

I am 41, have been on hormone replacement for three years now and it has been a life changer in many ways. Prior to making the jump I worked hard for five years in the gym and managing my diet/caloric intake/nutrition macro balance until I plateaued. My total T was about 200 and should have been in the 800-900 range for my age and physical / nutritional condition.
My advice is the advice that I followed after LOTS of research.. treat this the same as you would diabetes, find a doctor/provider that FULLY and thoroughly understands and specializes in the treatment of this deficiency in your body. I chose to go with a telemedicine group in Florida called Defy Medical. They and the regimen they have tailored for me have been fantastic. You don’t have to travel to them or anything. Regular bloodwork is required and reviewed by them.
Most primary care doctors local to all of us are very unexposed and not as knowledgeable abouthow to address our condition without huge peaks and valleys in your testosterone and estroidal (estrogen) levels. If both are not mananged then you will not get consistent results.
My 2 cents

 

I hope that this helps

 

I'm a firm believer in the effectiveness of binaural & isochronic audio tones based on Rife frequencies. I've had success with several for various issues. I've also recommended their use to a couple of coworkers and they've had success. Since every one is different and if you don't like one or it doesn't seem effective, try another. I've gone through 2 or 3 before finding something that worked for me. Always hydrate well before listening. You may need to loop them if they're short in duration. Typically 20 minutes seems to be the recommended listening duration threshold for effectiveness. I've had no side effects from any I've listened to beyond mild hearing irritation. I've discussed my experimentation with these with my Dr and he's generally curious to their effectiveness. Lastly, I'm not a medical professional, check it out for yourself.

Some examples:

 

I must admit, i did not expect this level of response, nor the number of men who are doing this, i felt alone and the support and comments are warm and welcoming.

Yearly i do a full blood workup, from any lab test now, the whole shebang, and my docs and i discuss it.

I am confident in this therapy, as i have gotten great input from current patients of this doc, who has been doing this for 20+ years now.

I have large glutes from various sports activities, mainly being a cat3 racer for years, so i should be ok, lots of mass there!!

 

I could not imagine doing any of that. I am 62 and horny all the time and my wife loves it.

 

I couldn't imagine either, my sex drive is not the issue, other factors are driving this bus....

 

I was on a menopause group for a while (transitioning) and they swore by the pellets.

If it works for a woman, ought to work for a man (different pellets of course ).

I say go for it. I do find it interesting my late husband didn't have any hair on his legs for years before he died. Didn't know that was a sign of low T.

 

This started as a thread about low T, but references have been made by me and others about an increased libido, which is another way of admitting ED.

Since we're getting real with it, here's something that sort of fits with the general topic, that has some good reviews online, that I was still "less than impressed" with: Gainswave.

Look it up. It amounts to getting your anatomy jackhammered with an implement that looks sort of like a massage gun. It's supposed to stimulate increased blood flow, and I suppose it does to an extent, but it's uncomfortable. Not exactly painful, but just not fun.

Six to 12 treatments are recommended. I did six and decided that was enough. Needless to say there is also the embarrassment factor. The nurse, bless her heart, besides being a consummate professional, would chatter away about her kids and job and things, all the while smearing cold ultrasound gel on my anatomy and hammering away.

All in all, about as fun as a colonoscopy prep.

 

Try peptide therapy; it's safer. Peptides increase the amino acids your body uses to make hormones less side effects, and it's safer.

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I'm looking into peptides options too, will be bringing that up w doc later today..

This is my first consult, wife is going in with me too, and she is pretty sharp cookie and always looking at effective alternatives....

This is the first step in the process, but again, i am amazed at the number of men who have gone down this route w favorable results and all manner of good feedback.

This is not something that most men, me thinks, want to accept, let alone discuss, but i was wrong...

This also happens to coincide with my recent, past april issues w miniscus tears in left knee and goign thru prp procedure that sidelined me from doing my normal daily exercises.

This past month, i am finally able to walk w out pain, and do light eliptical work and light bike riding, (spinning in low gears, more pedal reps w out pushing heavy gears) and resistance training, squating w dumbells and the like.

Again, my recovery time has more than doubled it feels like..

 

I'm on a Sermorelin, GHRP-6, GHRP-2 peptide blend it's done wonders I've notices quicker healing cuts and bruises heal faster, weight loss, more energy

 

I was thinking about this very topic a few months ago trying to decide if I should pull the trigger and go on TRT. I'm 51 and I have noticed some changes as I am sure most men my age have felt at some point in time: inability to concentrate, longer recovery, lack of drive, libido is erratic, etc. However, since I changed my diet and have been consistently working out, things have improved greatly. I do a combination of weight training and calisthenics along with MMA training and that, as of today, seems to work best for me. My energy levels are good, recovery is better and I sleep better. Another reason I decided not to do TRT was due to a SHTH scenario where stuff like that may not be available. I would hate to be on TRT for some period of time then all of a sudden stop due to a disaster scenario. Just something I thought about in my decision making process. Good luck with whatever you decide.

 

I got on TRT March of 19. Much better.

Went to a mens healh clinic and paid $3050 for one year until the VA took over. Just made an appointment with metabolic day before yesterday for my 6 month check up.

Changed my diet and lost 45 lbs. too.
Forgot to mention I'm 52 now 6'2" 178 lbs

100mg of T a week ,injection.

Used to weigh 220.

 

Any side effects?

 

I am about a month post getting my T checked. I'm 32 and have the free T of a 60 year old Man. Low T is actually pretty common in the Industry I'm in. I'm working with a Doc that only does hormone optimization and in my case we are attempting supplementation before any Injections, Cream, etc. I already feel better and have got back in the gym like I was 15 years ago.

My issue had nothing to do with sex drive. It was the lack of motivation plus drinking 600-1000mg of caffeine in a day and still taking a nap.