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Los Angeles Police Dept tells residents to 'cooperate and comply' with robbers as street robberies increase

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Makes you ask just whose side the upper brass, in the LAPD, is on? I know my mind is made up. I wonder if the upper brass tells their wives and daughters to “cooperate and comply” With a rapist? Would the upper brass “cooperate and comply” with a home invasion robber, that kicked in their door, at 2:00AM, or would they defend their home? I think we all know the answer to that one.

This is just another shining example of the pompous, arrogant, elitist, radicals trying to tell you what to do because they actually believe they are smarter than you are. They honestly believe they know what’s best. Let them eat cake!
 
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Works for sheep and other assorted livestock. If your untrained, unarmed, or just an all around puss you do stand a better chance of not being injured or killed if ya just let them have what they want.

Me, my wife, and my children are not livestock. We are trained, armed, and most certainly don't have an ounce of puss between the lot of us.

Anyone breaks into our house is leaving one of two ways....in a bag or as ahem part of the pit bulls morning glory.
 
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In CA despite not responding to a robbery, the cops WILL respond and arrest YOU for defending yourself.
 
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Governments instituted to secure rights but fail to do so, are thus ready to be altered or abolished, saith the Declaration of Independence.
 
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Just cooperate? Why? I mean bad guys obviously can’t get guns in California, so why not fight back if you think it is a viable response?

I mean with all that gun control California must be a peaceful panacea. There is no way a bad guy can get a gun.

California has universal background checks.
California has a “mean looking rifle” ban
They have red flag laws
Bans on high capacity magazines
and ammo background checks.
Gun registration
10 day waiting period to buy a gun
and almost impossible to get a carry license.


Wait a second, I am having an epiphany. Maybe, just maybe it’s possible all that gun control does is affect law abiding citizens. Perhaps criminals by their nature, ignore the law and find ways to get guns. So if someone is robbing you, despite all that gun control, they may have a gun after all.

Man my mind is blown.
 
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Depends on the situation. Sometimes it is best to hand over your wallet. Sometimes if you try to fight back you are dead. Have to know when to fight and when to give up that wallet. In all honesty credit cards and such can be replaced. Pita for sure. But if you’re getting robbed your situational awareness sucks, which means they have the drop on you. Better off handing it over.
 
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There is always this
That's not what a robbery looks like. I've worked many dozens of them as a cop so I have a very clear idea of how they go down most of the time. The suspect doesn't walk up to you, pull out a gun and ask you to hand over your stuff. It's very rarely one suspect. If it is one guy, that's probably going to be a purse snatching where the suspect just runs off with it. Where I come from that's called a robbery by sudden snatching. An actual armed or strong armed robbery usually involves more than one suspect, starting with a violent physical attack on a victim they feel they have a large advantage over. After the victim is incapacitated they'll go through his clothes and take the possessions. The more vulnerable the victim, the better. A great robbery victim would be an impaired guy stumbling home from a bar. Home invasion robbery victims are drug dealers 99% of the time.
 
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It was good advice 50 years ago and it's still good advice. Nothing is worth you life. But hey, if you want to die or get others killed for snatching your purse or stealing your car, go right ahead. OR you can shoot first and if you live spend your retirement proving you were right in court.
 
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If there was honor among thieves that they would just take your stuff and go, perhaps it would be good advice.

But how about complying with a rapist? Or better yet, allowing him to take one's wife, mother, or child for such an endeavor.

Or better yet...how about complying with a thug who just wants your money, jewelry, and/or car...and then decides that he doesn't want to leave any witnesses?
 
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9mm, thank you for that epic bit of urban poetry ;)

Used to live in Los Angeles. There are two kinds of street criminals. One kind actually wants whatever you have in your wallet, which if you're smart is two twenties, a small stack of 1's and all your grocery rewards cards. They'll grab what you have and haul butt. I can certainly see just letting them jet away if they have a weapon. The other kind are psychopaths who enjoy forcing a confrontation and enjoy it even more if their target is terrified, gives up everything, and still gets played with like a cat batting around a gutted but still breathing mouse. Trouble with the non-resistance policy is criminals don't come with descriptive labels telling you whether this particular person just wants a twenty to get high, or if they enjoy carving on people and have a photo gallery of it for their friends.

California is even stranger about self defense than Washington State. As a private citizen you can be -- and plenty of people have been -- investigated and even charged for using excessive force in defending yourself because you can't tell the difference.

Guy grabs a woman in a parking lot late at night. She slaps at him like she's swatting a mosquito and starts crying. She's good.

If she breaks his hold, then turns around and slams him in the face hard enough to break his jaw, she will be asked why she didn't just run when she broke his hold. If she used a sock with a rock or a pipe section filled with concrete she keeps in her hand while she walks to the car (low cost and quite effective), she might find herself in court defending how she defended herself.

If you live in LA, always say the rock was just lying there. You were so scared. You kept yelling for help because this bad person was going to hurt you, but nobody heard. And you don't remember anything else, like purposefully and effectively making sure your armed attacker won't get up and try again.

Only rich liberals really believe the crap about not resisting because they've never encountered a psychopath. They seem to honestly believe all criminals are just working a side job, rather like a part time Uber driver, and when you give them what they want they move on to the next victim. In reality crooks who just want your wallet or your car usually demand it, grab it and haul butt (if they don't just steal it without you realizing). They don't force a confrontation. Someone who confronts you with a weapon, or is bigger than you, and enjoys hurting/torturing/killing people is whole other unstable ballgame. But you can't convince liberal politicians who have bodyguards and cars to take them everywhere, most of whom have never had anything more serious than someone parking in their space happen to them, that many of their constituents inhabit a different world where evil people have fun with the unarmed and defenseless on a regular basis, and failing to resist guarantees a little visit to hell you may not come back from.
 
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9mm, thank you for that epic bit of urban poetry ;)

Used to live in Los Angeles. There are two kinds of street criminals. One kind actually wants whatever you have in your wallet, which if you're smart is two twenties, a small stack of 1's and all your grocery rewards cards. They'll grab what you have and haul butt. I can certainly see just letting them jet away if they have a weapon. The other kind are psychopaths who enjoy forcing a confrontation and enjoy it even more if their target is terrified, gives up everything, and still gets played with like a cat batting around a gutted but still breathing mouse. Trouble with the non-resistance policy is criminals don't come with descriptive labels telling you whether this particular person just wants a twenty to get high, or if they enjoy carving on people and have a photo gallery of it for their friends.

California is even stranger about self defense than Washington State. As a private citizen you can be -- and plenty of people have been -- investigated and even charged for using excessive force in defending yourself because you can't tell the difference.

Guy grabs a woman in a parking lot late at night. She slaps at him like she's swatting a mosquito and starts crying. She's good.

If she breaks his hold, then turns around and slams him in the face hard enough to break his jaw, she will be asked why she didn't just run when she broke his hold. If she used a sock with a rock or a pipe section filled with concrete she keeps in her hand while she walks to the car (low cost and quite effective), she might find herself in court defending how she defended herself.

If you live in LA, always say the rock was just lying there. You were so scared. You kept yelling for help because this bad person was going to hurt you, but nobody heard. And you don't remember anything else, like purposefully and effectively making sure your armed attacker won't get up and try again.

Only rich liberals really believe the crap about not resisting because they've never encountered a psychopath. They seem to honestly believe all criminals are just working a side job, rather like a part time Uber driver, and when you give them what they want they move on to the next victim. In reality crooks who just want your wallet or your car usually demand it, grab it and haul butt (if they don't just steal it without you realizing). They don't force a confrontation. Someone who confronts you with a weapon, or is bigger than you, and enjoys hurting/torturing/killing people is whole other unstable ballgame. But you can't convince liberal politicians who have bodyguards and cars to take them everywhere, most of whom have never had anything more serious than someone parking in their space happen to them, that many of their constituents inhabit a different world where evil people have fun with the unarmed and defenseless on a regular basis, and failing to resist guarantees a little visit to hell you may not come back from.
Wow. Never thought about it like that. Glad you “used to” live in such a krappy place.