clothing and stuff is fine. i've worn surplus military stuff pretty much my whole life. its cheap!

 

we have a military surplus here and alot of the guys from fort knox sell excess stuff when they leave and it is perfectly legal to buy any mil surplus that is not "stolen" so id stay away from nightvision and guns but anything else is ok.

 

The govt sells its own surplus, so its fine as long as it is not stolen. A few items that are almost always stolen nightvision, weapons, body armor, and newer radio gear. I run a small surplus business and almost all of what you see is ok to own.

 

The new MRE's are illegal to buy or sell. Says so on them. There must have been a black market for them. LOL

 

I can go right in the commissary here at Ft Polk and buy all the MREs I want to. Perfectly legal or they would not do it.

Al

 

Just don't get all dressed up with the intent of presenting yourself as Lt. Col. Puffedup Homeboy, with all kinds of patches all over. People try to do that, and they do get found out.

 

yeah, actually looking like you are trying to impersonate military personnel is actually a fairly serious crime.
Also, these days, wearing your uniform away from post when off duty is somewhat frowned upon, so if you are all dressed like Joe Paratrooper you just look stupid.

 

How do you know whether or not its not stolen?

 

You won't know for sure untill you are charged and sitting in the poky.
Get a receipt and keep it. They have been hitting some of the guys with online auctions that are selling stuff out the back door (RIGHTFULLY SO IMHO):thumb:

 

Just to be on the safe side, send it to me.
I'll make sure it's disposed of properly.

 

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Whatever you can't dispose of send to me just remember I have a no return policy.

 

If it was illegal, there would be a lot of army surplus stores out of business.

 

There are some specific items that require what is called an EUC. It stands for End Use Certificate. It is for certain surplus items bought at auction such as trucks, trailers, generators, pumps, and many more items. But for items like tents, clothes, boots, hoses, back pack's ect, it is not required. And if you bought an item that requires and EUC you can not sell/transfer it to anyone who is not a US citizen and it cannot be exported out of the country unless specified in your EUC application, then you have to jump through flaming loops to do so. I have purchased many items through Government auction's, so I have a good idea of what is legal and what is not.

 

It is illegal to buy official U.S. Marine BDUs (with the little globe and anchor in the camo) without consent

 

Hmm, I'd like to see the statute on that.

On a related note, it is illegal to buy something which you know is stolen. So if you suspect a certain military surplus item is stolen, don't buy it. Of course there is some gray area here, but gear isn't worth getting busted for.

If a 19 year old soldier tries to sell you an ACH helmet, do not buy it.

 

I buy ammo cans, and alice packs, and mags , bdu's, that sort of thing from a guy that sets up on the same spot on the side of the road. He is there every weekend. He told me a story about where he buys his stuff out of state( kentucky i think) he said that he was stopped by the police and they said he should not come back. They told him that buying surplus near the local base was being stopped due to questionable activity. Seems some guys were selling stolen items. After they went thru his trailer they determined he was ok, but suggested he find a new sorce. Too bad, i like getting my ammo cans for 3 to 5 dollars each. 50 feet of para cord for 1 dollar, and canteens with the cover for 2 dollars. Just wish he would come up with some of the steel canteen cups. I'll take a case if he had them

 

Only problem I have with military issue is the possible military order to " shoot first and ask later" in a SHTF or a total out and out TEOTWAWKI ...... for example running around with a new issue gas mask after troops have been killed trying to quell an urban riot ....... no question a military patrol will figure they have a body snatcher

 

The body armor with plates is most likely a no-go. Selling it online is bound to get you in trouble. Other than that a private deal with a friend that is kept quiet would work.

All the other stuff is no big deal.

 

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Cheaper than dirt.com has some cer. plt. body armor I believe it's from an eastern europe country...

 

We have lots of military surplus stuff.

My wife works at a commissary on-base, they sell MREs. It is legal to buy and use MREs.

 

the status of being "military surplus" doesnt matter, if the object is illegal in the us or in a state, you cant own it or sell it, if it is, im sure its ok

 

It is legal to own all and to sell. Only problem you might have is the SAPI plates. I think above lvl3 are not to be sold.

 

Yes it is, send me all of yours before you get caught with them.:

 

I bought an IOTV with the kevlar in it at a surplus store.

 

From what I understand from some friends in Canada they have a hell of a time getting military surplus items (if at all). That's the only time I've heard of anyone having problems.
Walk into pawn shops & surplus shops of any major US military base and you should be able to outfit yourself rather quickly.

 

In Australia its a whole different ball game, our military basically sells nothing to the citizens and everything is garnered through shady deals and guys that have been issued to much (read crooked Q-Store persons). Sounds like the US is my kinda place. I had to join up to even see our version of the MRE (CRP1M)

 

You can buy it from the .gov here:
http://www.govliquidation.com/

 

good rule of thuumb if it has a serial number on it it is most likely stolen example night vision new radios ect and hardware like that

if id does not it is surplus and is fine blankets clothes canteens rucksacks ect

 

hope my desk is legal then the plate on it has serial number inventory number and at the top of said plate has "property of the US Army Air Force" it did come from an air base that shut down shortly after WW2

 

I live close to an Army base and buy and resell gear. When I buy the gear I usually buy it in bulk lots so end up with several items I can't sell like IOTV's and brand new gas masks.

 

If you would like to 'donate' some items, i can make a 'donation' back

 

yes if you are caught with used military surplus you will go to a military prision and if your caught as a military surplus dealer,life in a military prision . OMG!! NO!! dont cut those taggs off!!! you will double your life sentance

if you own any of that stuff you should be very worried. if i was you i would go and burry it right now before the authories kick in your door from you posting this question.

inorder to legally own military issue equipement you must have been granted a DD214 inorder for a civilian to have the privilege to be in posession of ANY military issue .which is only given out to certain civilians who have proven their loyalty to the gov.

if you dont know what a DD214 is then you dont have one and you need to stay away from anyone dealing in used military equipement. in fact i have heard that they grant civilians a DD214 if they lead the athorities to 7 arrest of military surplus dealers :thumb:








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While doing a web search on body armor I came across an article about stolen US issue body armor. It appears that numerous pieces of Interceptor body armor appearing on the web for sale are in fact stolen. The article, which I will try to find a link to and post, states that Naval and Army criminal investigators are actively trying to recover stolen pieces of USGI body armor. In most instances, while criminal charges are possible for those in possesion of stolen government property, they appear to withold pressing charges if the subject turns over the stolen property. They appear to be focusing their prosecutorial efforts on those who stole it and or sold it. The purchaser is generally let off the hook as long as they turn over the stolen property but is pretty much SOL about recovering the money they spent even if they purchased it in good faith. As a general rule, surplus items purchased from government auction or from established and reputable surplus dealers are perfectly legitimate for you to purchase and possess. I would emphatically recomend avoiding purchasing items from other sources, you may or may not be purchasing stolen property and you may or may not be charged criminally but it will probably cost you more than it's worth in time and aggravation and certainly money if the feds come knocking looking for their stuff. Body armor that has been disposed of by the government is probably past it's useful half life and may not perform entirely as advertised. It may still offer some ballistic protection but then it may not. Buyer beware.