almost impossible I would think , fake your own death hide in a cave would be the only way LOL , heck with work records ect... I don't think its possible .

 

No credit cards, burner phone, no face book, buy nothing online, work for cash only. Only my license, registration and car insurance show I exist at all.

 

And this post logged in with your IP address by the NSA and on permanent file with the FBI survivalist forum server. NSA! Tea Party crackpot! Obama! Osama Bin Laden!

Yep, you're logged in.

 

What I do is studiously avoid going to any internet blogs or forums that deal with survival, guns, Obamanation, natural disasters, preparing for economic collapse, political stupidity, the potential for nuclear war and EMP, as well as.......wait a minute.......what tha.....


Dammit man!

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die?
Time machine?

Not really possible if you were born in even a semi modern nation.
If they want you they will track you down.

 

Don't sign a lease,
Don't get a land line,
Don't have any utilities,
gas, electric, water & sewer,
Don't have an address for your snail mail,
Don't have any packages delivered to your door,
Don't have a mortgage,
Don't get arrested or have a criminal record,
Don't own a car, just don't get a driver's license,
Don't enable tracking or location services on your phone,
Don't do social media,
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Pay in cash,
Build a septic system,
Get a mail box in town,
and a package service for your boxes,
If you order something pay with a money order,
Get a separate ID for your life and have a document saying your real self owns all of your alter ego's stuff...
Buy the expensive stuff second hand, like guns.

 

You forgot:
Don't own property (even with an alternate ID, since THAT person could be on the radar)
Mail boxes require picture/government ID now. (I tried)

 

I have been working on this very thing for a little adventure and fun . I am at this time living in a 31ft motorhome and it is a fight to get vehicle registrations and drivers license information to a PO box . All my mail is scanned and e-mailed to me .I am having a lot of fun with it so far. I have TV, Internet ,central heat and air all the comforts of home but nobody knows where I am from one day to the next. Also this method of staying under the radar is not cheap. But like I said it an adventure and you learn a lot of things.

 

Political speech has been known to lead to imprisonment.

 

keeping quiet leads to tyranny

 

Yeah gettin harder every day.

Seriously I do not believe that you can get completely off the RADAR and if you did, records from long ago are now being data mined. We have seen people loose their rights over arrests from the 1970s, arrests for misdemeanors, arrests where the citizen was not actually charged nor convicted.

Now I do recommend that we as a group keep a low profile and hope that some other schmuck gets killed while "resisting arrest".

Obviously THEY will start one of two places like New York because they have "REGISTRATION" and the handful of gun owners will be easy pickens, and go on from there to the harder States, Or they will start with Texas and shoot thousands of people to frighten the others into surrendering their guns quietly.

There aren't enough Jackbooted Thugs to grab all guns simultaneously. We will get some warning, think about is what if the internet goes down without warning, that in and of itself will be a warning.

And then Fun-fun Obama will be shrinking the US Army to pre-WWII levels and most of those are over seas, where will he get the Jackbooted Thugs then?

 

....There aren't enough Jackbooted Thugs to grab all guns simultaneously. We will get some warning, think about is what if the internet goes down without warning, that in and of itself will be a warning.

And then Fun-fun Obama will be shrinking the US Army to pre-WWII levels and most of those are over seas, where will he get the Jackbooted Thugs then?

Why does Obama need a standing Army if the enemy is internal? Well stocked with ammo, Homeland Security will soon handle all customer service complaints.

 

Wear carbon fiber

No square edges

 

You can't disappear in this country unless you want to be indigent.

You CAN keep from attracting "their" attention.

Don't shop online (or with a credit/debit card).

Keep your "subversive" activities and opinions off the Internet (hint-- step one-- get the hell out of HERE and don't come back; don't search anything related to politics or survival either-- if you HAVE to, make sure it looks like you're researching how to be greener).

Those are the two that are tough for me. I don't know another way to get large quantities of the stuff I want (tried the local feed store, even). I can't afford the time to make semi-annual trips to buy from Honeyville or Wheat Montana direct. If anyone has any pointers...

And I get horribly, horribly lonely. Even us antisocial Asperger people need to talk to like-minded souls. That's probably going to be our undoing.

Spread your cash purchases out over a large area, unless you live in a sympathetic area.

Don't talk to your neighbors about it, either.

Go ahead and Facebook. They want you too-- not Facebooking is probably MORE conspicuous. Just make sure to post pics of the new TV you bought, and the boat you want, and the vacation you are planning to take. Facebook is the ultimate global Keeping Up With the Joneses-- treat it that way.

Have a bank account-- deposit just about enough to pay your bills, and pay them by check or electronically. Because that's what normal people do. Bank the way people did 15 years ago.

Don't try to disappear. Try to cover yourself in wool and bleat convincingly.

 

Really, doing some of the things here will draw attention.

Not buying online is seen as abnormal.
This is just like not participating in social media, that is abnormal as well.
Paying with cash will get you odd looks at most stores in today's world.
Just as will planting a garden and building rain barrels
Fixing anything you own over buying new will get attention etc.

 

Kind of like the DWI who is a perfect driver to avoid getting stopped. It draws attention.

 

Use cash, stay off the internet, fill out the least amount of paperwork possible.

 

If you are afraid of the secret police, join the secret police.

Nobody pays attention to you and it pays well.

 

I don't. If I did, I wouldn't have an account on a forum like this one.

 

No one cares. You have to really work at standing out to garner notice in this overcrowded world.

 

That's been my problem trying to buy LTS food without doing it online.....

 

Cash as much as we can. I think that's the biggest thing. Far too late about the internet thing. If it gets nuts we're already on a list or five. We pull the plug and hope for the best.

 

it's impossible....

and i almost feel like doing something of the things mentioned here would make you more of a target, you're better off hiding in the crowd as opposed to trying to go underground at this point.

 

Where they have been doing the unconstitutional spying for at least a decade(and probably longer) before it was widely known you probably wound up on thier radars already before you knew you needed to try and stay off the radar.

 

All of this reminds me of the Terminator movies.
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John Connor worked day jobs for cash, kind if like the people who hang out at Home Depot or Lowes, or lumpers on the docks. He had no license and only owned a motorcycle and the clothes on his back. Average height & weight, nondescript hair and facial features, a needle in a stack if needles...

I know it's fiction, but in this life we call reality - who could pull it off?

Over 6 feet and you're starting to stand out as tall, under 5'6" and you're starting to look like Samwise. If your belt line is much longer than your pants are tall then there's another strike against you, while the obverse is also a marker. Skin color is only relevant if you're the one in a thousand who is bright orange, or something like that. The same with clothes, your clothing has to really stand out to really stand out.

I'd say that living in the wide, wild world of unattached 20 something's without leaving sign for trackers is fairly easy. The rest of us, as soon as we have a house or apartment, a credit card or phone, we're found.

Of course there's always mom & dad's house!

Live in a van down by the river!
Use mom & dad as your secret base...

I know, my kids treat me that way.

 

I know for a fact that I'm in pretty much every government database thanks to my job. 'Off the radar' for me is an unattainable goal, so I don't worry about it. That being said, I purchase PMs using cash and also maintain a cash balance at home equivalent to about one month's expenses sans rent. (The goal is to move this up to one month's gross income but that'll take some time.)

 

A guy from Wired Magazine did a thing last year where he tried to disappear. I do not have a link, but he had some really good ideas. He was caught only because of a challenge he did not have to take.

 

I don't even try to stay off the radar. I've been on the radar since the late 70s, and probably on one of more of the 'Lists' since then or shortly after.

I live an open life. The Powers That Be expect a certain lifestyle from me, and certain activities. I'm a known prepper/survivalist, gun owner, conservative agnostic, outspoken critic of this administration, and proactive campaigner for change to what I consider a better way of life, and a return to a true Constitutional Republic with limited Federal government and absolute personal rights and liberties, with attendant responsibilities enforced.

If I was to attempt to disguise that or change that, on a permanent, or even semi-permanent basis, it would trigger red flags and an immediate response.

But that does not mean I haven't made provisions to drop down into the ground clutter of that radar for a time if I need to.

Just my opinion.

 

Let me say this first. I work with technology.
I think of it this way. Making yourself invisible is also a red flag.
Only post what you are willing to have others know about you.

 

met a guy couple years back while we were staying at an old camp ground up in the mountains, just a couple miles outside of a very small town.

he had a caretaker gig with the old couple who owned the place...the provided him with an older but functioning travel trailer..about 32ft, and a meager paycheck.
A moped easily got him in to town to the one grocery store and since he had very little cost of living he was doing well.
He had skills which included basic electrical and plumbing...enough to keep the place functioning...the campground is overshadowed by the upscale commercial places..but those often fill up so overflow biz comes to this one....you pay the owners at their front door of their house..cash...
The guy is as off-grid as is reasonable at this point.