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Guy in Arizona killed by a black bear

4.9K views 75 replies 36 participants last post by  Chimookoman  
#1 ·
Man in Tucson drinking coffee at his place this morning, killed in “random, unprovoked” attack. His neighbor shot the bear and killed it, but it was too late. Arizona game and fish called it a predatory response by the healthy male bear.

Jeez, sitting there having a cup of coffee, wham, bear charges and kills him.
 
#8 ·
Nothing like minding your own business and Wham!
Yeah, that’s what I thought. When I’m at my place in the Colorado mountains, I go sit outside with my coffee every morning as soon as it’s light enough. Then every evening I sit outside watching it get dark again. I always have a gun on my hip, or even in my hand, but I wonder if it would matter.
 
#3 ·
It wasn’t in Tucson, it was just outside Prescott. 6-10 year old male bear, nothing released on health of bear. Bear dragged him off and started eating him, neighbors yelled and used car horns to no avail. Neighbor went inside for rifle and shot/killed the bear. Way too late to save the man though.
Prayers for his family, neighbors and the first responders. Very traumatic.
 
#4 ·
This wasn't in Tucson. It was in Prescott. Groom Creek area:


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I've been all over that area. Including hiking from Groom Creek all the way up to the top of Spruce Mountain.
 
#5 ·
Couple of weeks ago we had one in a lady’s back yard not two miles from my house-(not really common around here but.. )Anyway, I have a reason to walk my yard at night to check on my dogs alerting or similar, I always grabbed a Rem 870 Youth Mod 20ga w #3 buck..lightweight, handle any human dumb enough to sneak around…since then I went back to the 12 auto with OO…Good lesson learned..I had gotten complacent/lazy in my old age/good area to live in….As Robin Williams said “Reality..What A Concept”…
 
#7 ·
On the smaller size but followed me back to my truck way back when. Got out to look around and take some pics (not of the bear didnt see it at the start) But still didnt let it get close. Glass and vehicle doors are not a barrier to determined bears so i scooted down the road.
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#11 ·
Well you know what they say...

Sometimes you get the bear. Sometimes the bear gets YOU!

I've driven through there. There's a 4wd road (Senator Hwy) to a little village called Crown King. It's a fun day trip. We nearly bought a cabin in the area, but just too much fire danger for me. Now the "cabins" are like $400k. :(
 
#75 ·
A few years ago, I was planning to buy a cabin on FS ground lease at Horse Thief, listed for 28,000. Day before I made an offer, wife decided she wanted a divorce. Didn't want more community property to liquidate. Nice place, collected rain water, then no electric. Hauled drinking water from tap at Ranger Station. It was a nice dream. The Senator Highway route was challenging last time I was there (2010). Did work on Tower Mountain above Crown Kind several times. You could get in there from Crown King or from Senator Hwy. In case you are interested, she got the house, the mortgage, a Volvo car and a Ford pickup truck as well as all my savings bonds along with child support and alimony. I kept the rest.
 
#12 ·
Yeah... we're seeing more black bear around these parts. Neighbors have most all seen them. Makes me a little nervous knowing they're growing in numbers. We live right next to a wildlife area so it's not uncommon for someone to see one, and often, with little cubs behind. Hmmm.

Not much interested in killing just for the sake of killing, but caution is definitely in order.

In the case of the attack, it's good that the bear was taken down. If it's done that once, it would do it again. For the most part, bears don't like people that well and would just as soon not cross paths.
 
#13 ·
In the case of the attack, it's good that the bear was taken down. If it's done that once, it would do it again. For the most part, bears don't like people that well and would just as soon not cross paths.
A neighbor killed it but I'm pretty sure authorities euthanize a wild bear if it attacks - let alone eats - a human.

This is a really strange story. I've had waaaay more than my fair share of black bear encounters. Black bears don't want anything to do with people (although they do want your food) and they aren't hard to run off. They don't simply walk up and eat someone. The news story said the bear was healthy, too; neither diseased nor starving. Very, very weird.

May you rest in peace, Mr. Jackson.
 
#14 · (Edited)
Should always be armed and have dogs about you in large predator areas. I don’t understand people. They protected the crocs here till they are a problem now, blokes are shooting them anyway. Crocs and bears are a menace, people should always be armed, or cull these animals altogether.

And “ Highly unusual “ , how stupid. Bears have been attacking and killing humans for hundreds of thousands of years. In nature, we are natural enemies.
 
#16 ·
Should always be armed and have dogs about you in large predator areas. I don’t understand people. They protected the crocs here till they are a problem now, blokes are shooting them anyway. Crocs and bears are a menace, people should always be armed, or cull these animals altogether.
I am always armed. I think it’s a crap shoot, though. Maybe I’ll get off a shot, maybe even two. Might be enough, might not. Maybe would’ve been enough for that guy in Arizona, maybe not. Might be a bear, might be a moose. Might be a mountain lion I didn’t see soon enough. Can’t just kill every bear and mountain lion and moose, though.

Anyway, tomorrow morning thousands and thousands of people are going to have their coffee outside, and probably none of them will be killed by a bear.
 
#15 ·
Very strange. Here in E. Tn we see black bears on a regular basis in our yard attacking our bird feeders spring and summer. They are very shy and are even scared of our chickens. My wife and I have been face to face with several bears while puttering around in the yard and they always scurry away in a hurry. Maybe just have not encountered the right bear yet.
 
#17 ·
I'd be more worried about a whitetail buck in rut than a black bear. I was out with the dogs just yesterday and shushed Dufus the Bear up a tree. He's not as annoying as Flick the Bear. Annoying, but I don't worry about them. I would like to see what caused the attack. No matter what, it's a bad way to go. My heart goes out to the family.
 
#24 ·
Bears would not be so different than any other animal, at times things can make situations more dangerous . And I find two things, people whom simply have no ability to read an animal and those not paying attention endanger themselves more than others . Just sitting there drinking coffee, watching the bear? Or unaware?
 
#30 ·
The victim needed dogs. Four or five quick, mid sized dogs to harass the bear, and a couple beagle type dogs to smell the bear at a distance. I also have some very large livestock guardian dogs, to deal with coyotes and stray dogs.

I have had bears on my ranch land in the Ozarks, but my beagle spotted it early, and no bear wants to tangle with my pack. Turns out none of the native preadators, including the crack heads, want to deal with them either.
 
#31 ·
The victim needed dogs. Four or five quick, mid sized dogs to harass the bear, and a couple beagle type dogs to smell the bear at a distance. I also have some very large livestock guardian dogs, to deal with coyotes and stray dogs.

I have had bears on my ranch land in the Ozarks, but my beagle spotted it early, and no bear wants to tangle with my pack. Turns out none of the native preadators, including the crack heads, want to deal with them either.
I usually have two dogs with me, poodle mix. My land is in a checkerboard area, big sections of national forest/state land mingled with sections of private land/ranches. I‘m bordered by Roosevelt national forest and Colorado state land, so if bears don’t want to be around humans, or around me specifically, they have lots of empty square miles to use for that. I don’t see bears or mountain lions often, just once in a while.
 
#33 ·
Often people state that black bears are afraid of humans and will run away when encountered, that they are harmless. Yet, every year there are new stories of people being attacked, mauled, and killed by black bears. Sometimes the human can be blamed for harassing or getting too close to the bear. But it is not at all uncommon to hear stories of unprovoked attacks on humans. Bottom line, bears can hurt you and kill if they decide too. If you have no means to defend yourself, you are not in control of the outcome when a black bear is encountered. The bear decides how the encounter will end. I prefer to have the ability to be in control of the situation. Top of the food chain, not the bottom.
 
#40 ·
So, bear story time. When I was a kid my mom worked in Yosemite Valley for several years as an administrstor. I spent summers there. Hundreds of black bear encounters. But I think the best, well other than the time I threw a rock at one and he chased me until I had to jump in the ice cold Merced river...

Anyway, one day I was out at Mirror Lake, where we'd swim off some rocks. Some tourists were playing frisbee next to a clump of bushed maybe 40 ft across. The frisbee went into the bushes. A guy went in to get it. There was a yelp and the guy came high stepping it out of the bush. A blackie hauled butt out the other side. Most halarious thing.

A bit scary, the bear was sleeping (I guess) within 100 feet of about 20 people for at least an hour and nobody had a clue. :D :D
 
#41 · (Edited)
I thought I had a quick video of Smudge checking out the empty feeder. Nobody had better plan on raiding my home, I am surrounded by bear. There are plenty of places in town to raid that don't have bear strolling around.

Bear at feeder