There are lots of good women out there. You just have to look beyond your manhood.

 

A point I'm not disputing. I'll just requote a pertinent part from above.

Mathematically most dating relationships fail and divorce rates in the US are reported at ~50%, with women filing the divorces the majority of the time (approximately 75%+). In approximately 25% of those cases, "domestic violence," is alleged. There's generally money and kids involved in these cases and everyone knows that women gain significant leverage in divorce and custody family courts by alleging she is a victim. The takeaway is that men are gambling with their rights, reputations, and careers under the continually expanding "war on men" laws which make ruining a man extremely easy.

It's also estimated that roughly 75% of DV allegations are fabricated/false.
Men risk simply too much, even if there are as you say, "lots of good women out there." They are the victims not of men, but of these legislative over-reaches. Men who value gun rights and freedom, are in large numbers continuing to be "red-pilled" and determine the risk is not worth it. So "good women" are going to remain alone unable to find quality men.

If a person (man) has committed and been convicted of a actual crime of violence, it's almost certainly going to be a felony. In that case, gun restrictions will attach. Conversely a MISDEMEANOR is generally a trivial crime and often requires very little evidence. Hopefully that clarified the difference.

 

There are no doubt many bat guano crazy women out there .

 

There are no doubt many bat guano crazy women out there.

The film, "Fatal Attraction," doesn't even come close to some of them.

 

Not only a deranged former spouse or date, but a nut bag left wing relative or neighbor. Add to the list anyone who doesn't like your landscaping, or the project vehicle parked in your driveway, the color of your house or that you fly the American flag every day.

 

There is also another aspect of a misdemeanor domestic conviction that most people don't know. Here in Florida, if you have a mm dv conviction, you are not legally allowed to organize or help in any way other than donating to a charity. If you do, you are guilty of a 3rd degree felony.

They also treat convicted pedophiles better than they do someone who has been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence.

 

Excellent write up, as usual.

I feel like I am on the other side of the coin.

I have been blessed with all daughters. At one time I worried they may end up in a relationship with an abuser or drug user...lately I have been more worried they may end up with a poor and weak excuse of a man who is too neutered by society to be a protector and provider. Such a poor quality mate would set both up to be victims in one way or another. I have faith in the skills my daughters have, and will develop, but it's already a hard world to face alone and dad won't be around forever.

Such concerning times.

 

Excellent write up, as usual.

I feel like I am on the other side of the coin.

I have been blessed with all daughters. At one time I worried they may end up in a relationship with an abuser or drug user...lately I have been more worried they may end up with a poor and weak excuse of a man who is too neutered by society to be a protector and provider. Such a poor quality mate would set both up to be victims in one way or another. I have faith in the skills my daughters have, and will develop, but it's already a hard world to face alone and dad won't be around forever.

Such concerning times.

If a guy is enough of a wimp or idiot to allow society to neuter him, whatever that is supposed to mean, he probably deserves to be neutered so he can't pollute the gene pool.

 

I remember listening to Rush Limbaugh 15 years ago, talking about the demasculinization of men by the NOW gang.

I thought SCOTUS had ruled 9-0 that red flag laws were unconstitutional in Caniglia v Strom

Supreme Court rules warrantless home gun confiscation is unconstitutional in 9-0 vote

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that warrantless gun confiscation from Americans' homes is unconstitutional, voting unanimously on the side of a Rhode

americanmilitarynews.com

 

The way I see it, the red flag laws violate the fifth and fourteenth amendments. However, the way I see it is irrelevant. I’m not in charge of all this nonsense.

Let’s Go Brandon!!!!

 

You are correct, and I would add that "red flag" laws also violate a person's 1A rights by effectively silencing him. They violate the 2A through deprivation. They violate a host of "due process" rights found in the 4A, 5A, 6A, and 14A. And they violate the 8A's "cruel and unusual punishment" protections.

Lautenberg also plainly violates the "ex post facto" protections as well.

These laws - Lautenberg, Red Flags, and so forth - are so wildly unlawful I don't understand how any serious legislature can in good faith pen them, nor any judge could allow them to stand. But here we are, and an example of an extreme over-reaction to a problem that does not exist except in the mind of those who watch too many "Time Life" movies or digest too much sensational news.

Murder rate in the entire US is 5 per 100,000. Most of that inner city drug wars. Violent assaults also quite low, something like 50 per 100,000 overall. That means 999,950 out of 100,000 people are NOT the victims of violence.

A better tool to help those 50 people is to - teach personal accountability, arm themselves, make better life decisions, don't behave in a way that increases your likelihood of being a victim, etc. Think about the conversations we have here. I would advise someone to lock their doors, don't walk in dangerous places at dangerous times, don't carry obvious expensive items in dangerous areas, and so forth... But no, not for modern women - that's "victim blaming" and cannot be tolerated. So the entire system must instead be destroyed so 50 people who don't want to be bothered for personal accountability don't have to.

 

After three marriages and numerous other relationships ... I have gone MGTOW (men going their own way) in my old age. I don't suspect that I would or could attract much attention at my age and I'm certain that I don't make enough money to satisfy the whims and gold-digging tendancies of a modern woman.

That's not to say that I'm opposed to the idea of striking up a new relationship but I'm not actively searching for one. It would likely have to be an act of God and would likely be very unexpected.

But I agree with the OP. Young men ought to be extremely careful. And though I'm not a fan of prenuptial agreements (as they convey a level of distrust in your future spouse) it may very well be the way to go in today's chaotic and unstable society.

 

After three marriage and numerous other relationships ... I have gone MGTOW (men going their own way) in my old age. I don't suspect that I would or could attract much attention at my age and I'm certain that I don't make enough money to satisfy the whims and gold-digging tendancis of a modern woman.

That's not to say that I'm opposed to the idea of striking up a new relationship but I'm not actively searching for one. It would likely have to be an act of God and would likely be very unexpected.

But I agree with the OP. Young men ought to be extremely careful. And though I'm not fan of prenuptual agreements (as they convey a level of distrust in your future spouse) it may very well be the way to go in today's chaotic and unstable society.

I’m not sure how a prenuptial will save you from an errant or misguided charge of DV. All it takes is an accusation.

 

Is this law retroactive like Lautenberg was?

 

No, and there is even some good news for this as well.

Biden signs bipartisan gun safety bill into law: 'God willing, it's going to save a lot of lives' | CNN Politics

President Joe Biden on Saturday signed into law the first major federal gun safety legislation passed in decades, marking a significant bipartisan breakthrough on one of the most contentious policy issues in Washington.

www.cnn.com

...The law isn’t retroactive. It will, however, allow those convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence crimes to restore their gun rights after five years if they haven’t committed other crimes...

 

All the more reason to adopt MGTOW as a life philosophy. I love women and could never be a homosexual BUT I do believe I shall refrain from dating and pursuit of female companionship for the foreseeable future. It may not be good for a man to be alone, but in the current political climate; it is better than the alternative.

 

I'm dating but have embraced a MGTOW mindset. I dated a few women but have settled on one who is a good fit for me. She was married to a guy who drank and did nothing else. He let them lose their house in a bankruptcy.

On the 1st date, I asked her who she voted for in 2016, the answer was Trump and that HRC should be behind bars. She works hard, is generous to a fault and appreciates what i'm able to do. She's a multi-pistol owner, likes cars and gardening. She had never seen that on a larger scale before.

So yeah, you can date but need to set boundaries and hold them. Too many simps out there let women walk all over them.

 

While the following is meant as tongue-in-cheek humor, there is significant truth in it:

 

Speaking from the other side if I may, a little background may help. I spent 9 years in a relationship (never married) with an extremely violent man, we have 3 kids together, he would have killed me if I had not finally left. After I finally left, I eventually got a job at a woman's domestic abuse shelter, and then went on to become the assistant director there. I won’t get into the left wing radical mentality that I endured from a vast majority of my co-workers while there. But suffice to say there is only so much I could take, so I opted to move into Law Enforcement and I absolutely loved the work as I really liked being able to help in our small close knit community. Eventually I moved to a major metropolitan area and in a few years I ended up as the Domestic Abuse Response Team coordinator on their police department.

I have done my share of Restraining Orders for both men and women. I have seen women fake injuries using makeup, I have seen men who felt embarrassed to be seeking a restraining order from their wife girlfriend or partner. In responding to domestics, have arrested just as many women as I have men and many times both of them for mutual abuse. The hostile backlash from various DV Advocacy groups for arresting a female for abusing a male was rather mind boggling. After all, abuse is abuse, and everyone has a right to seek protection & advocacy, not just women. While a vast majority of victims are female, sadly the segment is far less likely to report abuse or seek assistance. If you are a man and find yourself in a situation don’t be afraid to seek out legal remedies and above all else, GTFO, it is just not worth it.

I agree, these new laws are indeed very concerning, and yes this opens up a entire new bag of worms, and yes, now more than ever is the time for everyone to be cautious and concerned. If your current situation has elements of abuse get out. When dating someone don’t rush in! take your time getting to know someone, do a background check, and don’t accept bad behavior, and don’t make excuses for them. Don’t jeopardize your mental and physical health or your freedom!
As we get older and the old school LEO’s retire or quit, they are being replaced with more of the less masculine type of personality. My daughter was at a store on Mothers Day when a man grabbed her by the arm after she told him to back up from behind her, he was in her personal space. She responded by punching him straight in the face and cut open his mouth. Police were called and the male officer told her that he felt her response was a bit too much. At the end of the day, the video showed he started it and she finished it, she had every right to defend herself from being grabbed by someone. Since he didn‘t want to go to jail too, everyone went on their way.
I don’t want some man to hide behind my skirts! And I prefer a mans man thank you.

 

Speaking from the other side if I may, a little background may help. I spent 9 years in a relationship (never married) with an extremely violent man, we have 3 kids together, he would have killed me if I had not finally left. After I finally left, I eventually got a job at a woman's domestic abuse shelter, and then went on to become the assistant director there. I won’t get into the left wing radical mentality that I endured from a vast majority of my co-workers while there. But suffice to say there is only so much I could take, so I opted to move into Law Enforcement and I absolutely loved the work as I really liked being able to help in our small close knit community. Eventually I moved to a major metropolitan area and in a few years I ended up as the Domestic Abuse Response Team coordinator on their police department.

I have done my share of Restraining Orders for both men and women. I have seen women fake injuries using makeup, I have seen men who felt embarrassed to be seeking a restraining order from their wife girlfriend or partner. In responding to domestics, have arrested just as many women as I have men and many times both of them for mutual abuse. The hostile backlash from various DV Advocacy groups for arresting a female for abusing a male was rather mind boggling. After all, abuse is abuse, and everyone has a right to seek protection & advocacy, not just women. While a vast majority of victims are female, sadly the segment is far less likely to report abuse or seek assistance. If you are a man and find yourself in a situation don’t be afraid to seek out legal remedies and above all else, GTFO, it is just not worth it.

I agree, these new laws are indeed very concerning, and yes this opens up a entire new bag of worms, and yes, now more than ever is the time for everyone to be cautious and concerned. If your current situation has elements of abuse get out. When dating someone don’t rush in! take your time getting to know someone, do a background check, and don’t accept bad behavior, and don’t make excuses for them. Don’t jeopardize your mental and physical health or your freedom!
As we get older and the old school LEO’s retire or quit, they are being replaced with more of the less masculine type of personality. My daughter was at a store on Mothers Day when a man grabbed her by the arm after she told him to back up from behind her, he was in her personal space. She responded by punching him straight in the face and cut open his mouth. Police were called and the male officer told her that he felt her response was a bit too much. At the end of the day, the video showed he started it and she finished it, she had every right to defend herself from being grabbed by someone. Since he didn‘t want to go to jail too, everyone went on their way.
I don’t want some man to hide behind my skirts! And I prefer a mans man thank you.

As a man who has two domestic violence convictions I am sorry that you had to endure such treatment from another man. In my case, everytime my exwife wanted to take a new lover, she would go to her sister's house and call the police and say I abused her. They would come arrest me, just on her word. When she would sign the police report, they would offer to call an ambulance and she would refuse every time. Then she would not follow up with the state attorney's office. She had me arrested 5 times and I recieved two convictions due to plea agreements. The first was a plea agreement for time served after spending 30 days for a crime I did not do in 1994. They promised that because it was a misdemeanor that I would not lose any of my constitutional rights (which in 1994, they were correct) The second was on October 2, 1996. My ex wife was sleeping with the deputy who arrested me. When I got to book in I was cussing him out and made the accusation that he was probably the person ****ing her. Because of that accusation, there was an investigation which proved my accusation to be correct. Because I was right, they knew I had the opportunity to sue the sheriff's department. The Judge put his hand over the microphone and told me that if I did not take the plea agreement that he would make damn sure that I lost the trial and then he would sentence me to no less than 20 years in prison. I would have gotten out in 2012 after gaining time served and good behavior, and I would have then been a convicted felon. SO I took the plea agreement. I have been fighting for 26 years to get my firearm rights back, and if @Mr. Sockpuppet post is correct then my fight with the government will finally be over soon. I'm not holding my breath but I will try. I have not spoken to my ex wife since 2005 when I divorced her and walked away for good. I hold no malice towards her and hope she is happy. Although she made things harder for herself by marrying and having a child with a convicted child molester. I have never been happier since I got away from her and have no desire to ever see her again. I will be moving out of state to Wyoming soon (or Montana) But the further I get away from this area, the better. I have no family left here because in 2020, My only living brother passed away, My grandfather passed away and my mother passed away. So the only thing left here for me are memories, which I can carry with me to another state. Some good, some bad, but I have nothing else or anyone else keeping me here. My two sons are grown and do not have anything to do with their mother. When I left in 2005, she turned her aggression onto them. So they moved to the coast and do not even call her mom. They call her by her first name, even when they talk to her.

 

ITs called M.G.T.O.W.

 

I ain't here to bash women , we can talk about guys who need both knee caps busted all day if you like.
But since women and courts seem to be the topic , listen to this.
Pay attention.

Women don't need to lie.

There was a married couple.
Had a verbal argument about when they were going to go and do laundry "they had no machines at their apartment"
There was no violence , there was no threat of violence , there were no claims of anyone touching or threatening to touch anyone , the woman "told the truth" just a verbal argument.

Now wait , so the judge grants the PFA.
Now here is the real kicker .........
This verbal argument took place ........ 11 YEARS PRIOR to the filing of the PFA
Yes , I said ..... 11 YEARS PRIOR.
In 11 years that was all the "honest" woman could come up with.

So while everyone "who believed in justice" is standing around scratching their heads wondering how this could happen.
The mans lawyer remarked "Of course the judge was going to grant the PFA , if he did not and someone got killed or hurt , he would look like an idiot."

 

I feel a duty to tell young men things have changed and to be extremely careful on who you date and marry for an ever growing risk larger than previously encountered.

This stuff is really simple if you take reasonable precautions.

Start out with a background check on anyone you are considering dating. This check should include talking to several of the previous men she has dated and a simple interview with her employer, then have a Rorschach test administered together with a physical examination and have her execute a conditional prenuptial agreement. If she passes these tests be sure to have her sign a non disclosure agreement and have it notarized before the first date.

Taking these basic steps will help you avoid problems in the future.

 

This stuff is really simple if you take reasonable precautions.

Start out with a background check on anyone you are considering dating. This check should include talking to several of the previous men she has dated and a simple interview with her employer, then have a Rorschach test administered together with a physical examination and have her execute a conditional prenuptial agreement. If she passes these tests be sure to have her sign a non disclosure agreement and have it notarized before the first date.

Taking these basic steps will help you avoid problems in the future.

You're a smart person and I think you are joking, this is tougue-in-cheek.
The irony here is that if a man did that, if the woman learned and complained she'd EASILY get a "emergency protective order" for the mans' alleged "stalking" and that would quite potentially include a order to surrender firearms, disarm, lose any carry permits, etc.

It's a stacked deck, and I agree with those saying that while I have always loved women it's essentially a MGTOW period for me and MILLIONS of other men.

For those interested there are many Youtube channels about this general topic and top channels have many millions of subscribers. Women are losing now, because desirable men are tapping out. Society loses out because the next few generations are going to be women only being able to find anti-gun soy-boys beta-males to make families with. This is not good for women, the military, police, society, etc.

 

@Mr. Sockpuppet , if I am reading this correctly, it still prohibits me from restoration of my firearm rights. Here is the wording on page 55 beginning on line 7 of BILLS-117S2938EAS:

Restoration under this
8 subparagraph is not available for a current or former
9 spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim, a person with
10 whom the victim shares a child in common, a person who
11 is cohabiting with or has cohabited with the victim as a
12 spouse, parent, or guardian, or a person similarly situated
13 to a spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim.’’.
me from attaining my rights back

Here is the website to download the Bill:

Senate Amendment to House Amendment to S. 2938—Bipartisan Safer Communities Act

COMMITTEE ACTION:REPORTED BY A RECORD VOTE of 9-4 on Friday, June 24, 2022.FLOOR ACTION ON H. RES. 1204: Agreed to by record vote of 217-203, after agreeing to the previous question by record vote of 218-204, on June 24, 2022.MANAGERS: McGovern/Fischbach

rules.house.gov

 

@Mr. Sockpuppet , if I am reading this correctly, it still prohibits me from restoration of my firearm rights. Here is the wording on page 55 beginning on line 7 of BILLS-117S2938EAS:





Here is the website to download the Bill:

Senate Amendment to House Amendment to S. 2938—Bipartisan Safer Communities Act

COMMITTEE ACTION:REPORTED BY A RECORD VOTE of 9-4 on Friday, June 24, 2022.FLOOR ACTION ON H. RES. 1204: Agreed to by record vote of 217-203, after agreeing to the previous question by record vote of 218-204, on June 24, 2022.MANAGERS: McGovern/Fischbach

rules.house.gov

If you have a DV misdemeanor you may be able to get it set aside, pardoned etc and get a restoration of your rights.

 

This is why I only date women that are too crazy to keep their story straight.

 

Ha, you guys are dating?I gave up on that after my last GF ended up being significantly crazier than I was expecting. Hopefully I’ll be single for life, and if I’m ever stupid enough to get hitched, any of my friends have permission in advance to put a bullet in my head.

 

@leadcounsel , I have a serious question about the law signed today. Would it be worth while to pursue the path that with what was signed today is not retroactive and mine was? Just interested in your opinion and not legal advice.

 

Yes, IIWY I would pull every legal lever possible to attempt to get relief from your situation. Time, good citizen, no legal problems, analogous laws allow for restoration, this law is expressly NOT retroactive whereas Lautenberg apparently was, and so forth. Low odds of success but high rewards possible.

 

An issue with misdemeanors is the temptation , even if wrongly accused , to take a 100 dollar fine or “ time served “ after spending a few hours in jail as opposed to spending money and time fighting the charges.

Make sure to protect your gun rights. Either with a guarantee the charge will be set aside after probation, paying the fine , etc. which will keep
Your rights intact OR by pleading to a charge that specifies you didn’t commit assault in the plea. Say disturbing the peace , etc.

 

Pre-screening of a partner should happen a.k.a "never marry crazy"
But it's not fool proof.
I feel certain some here know what I mean , the membership in the club is larger than you know but have you even seen someone "who changed" 110%?
Due to hormones , brain chemicals whatever.
It's a scary sight when someone you've known very well for a long time becomes someone you don't recognize at all.
It's unbelievable until you see it and even then it's hard to believe.
If anyone isn't afraid .... maybe you should be

 

I am in agreement with many of the men here. Unfortunately, every relationship I have experienced or witnessed has been one where the woman abused the man...verbally and financially, not physically. Unrelenting, cruel, unjustified, downright nasty, selfish and vindictive.

Then, there was the "Me too" movement and in my experience, women did not stand by their men. It was a free-for-all of women against men. Non-stop complaints of "toxic masculinity."

But wait! Now women are under attack as they are experiencing the erosion of their gender. According to the MSM and even our newly-appointed Supreme Court Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, it is not possible to define what a woman is. They are fading into obscurity as I watch comfortably from the independent, happy, productive and positive environment of my man cave.

So, after the emotional and financial abuse I and so many other men have suffered at the hands of women, all I can say to them now is, "Good luck to you!"

 

When my wife and I were young we had friends where the girl was bat crap crazy and often beat herself with a phone or bash her head into a wall when she didn't get her way!

Well one night we waited on her to get ready to go out to the club. So we were playing video games, so she comes down and flips out because she took so long we didn't want to go!

You guessed it she flipped out and called the cops saying Scott was beating her up, she was slamming her head against the wall. Scott said it didn't matter that we seen it he was going to jail.

The cops show up and didn't want to hear that we saw exactly what happened, to my surprise when the officer asked our names he new my dad who was also LEO. He asked again and we signed a statement as to what happened. She was arrested for making a false police report but only because the cop new my father before that they didn't care that we saw her do what she did.

This new red flag law can only cause harm as the Parkland shooter was a total nut case and was well known by the local cops as well as the FBI!

 

I had a friend and his wife was a total battle axe , wow was she bad.
We stopped going places with them if she was going ... it was bad for a lot of years.
The things he put up with was amazing and then one day she became nice and tolerable.
THEN he left her.
I was like .... huh?

 

Mathematically most dating relationships fail and divorce rates in the US are reported at ~50%, with women filing the divorces the majority of the time (approximately 75%+).

This is kind of true, but really fake news that is repeated by liberal media so much that everyone now repeats it. It is horribly misleading at best. Sure 50% of marriages end in divorce, but only some 6% of people who get married will ever be divorced. It is fake news used to scare people away from marriage or to throw their hands up and give up, what's the point, you have a 50/50 chance of being divorced anyway. Except you don't, the number is skewed to high heaven with the number of people who get divorced 4-16 times.

How many decades have we all been being fed that bunch of BS. Kind of infuriating when you think about it, and that this fake news has a specific tactical intention to it.

 

Mathematically most dating relationships fail and divorce rates in the US are reported at ~50%, with women filing the divorces the majority of the time (approximately 75%+).

This is kind of true, but really fake news that is repeated by liberal media so much that everyone now repeats it. It is horribly misleading at best. Sure 50% of marriages end in divorce, but only some 6% of people who get married will ever be divorced. It is fake news used to scare people away from marriage or to throw their hands up and give up, what's the point, you have a 50/50 chance of being divorced anyway. Except you don't, the number is skewed to high heaven with the number of people who get divorced 4-16 times.

How many decades have we all been being fed that bunch of BS. Kind of infuriating when you think about it, and that this fake news has a specific tactical intention to it.

We are in a post agricultural/industrial age where women are steadily becoming the majority of educated and trained employees. I expect these number to increase as males (about a quarter raised by single mothers) fall short of manhood. The average modern male brings nothing extra to the relationship in a traditional male role that the government is not willing to provide.

 

It's not just the women you need to watch! I have a far, far left wing liberal narcissist so called friend that would pull something like this just because he thinks it'd be funny. He has zero respect for myself, Veterans, and conservative thought!. I haven't seen him since I became a gun owner and have no intensions anytime soon!