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Eddie Ray Routh found "guilty" in the murder of Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield

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Eddie Ray Routh found "guilty" in the murder of Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield

Jury found Routh guilty of murder. Sounds about right to me. They didn't deliberate for long. From what I've heard, "not guilty by reason of insanity was the only hope the defense had, and apparently the closing argument of the state did a good job of taking that option away from the jury.
 
#2 ·
They should hang that mother ****er from the courthouse steps. Piece of ****.
 
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I have no doubt he is guilty but I can't help but wonder what the real reason for his actions was. If they were a result of his service I would have empathy for him but regardless he robbed not only the Kyle family but the nation of a true hero and a shining example through his attitude what every american should strive to be like.
 
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I think it's interesting that they decided to give him life in prison rather than kill him.

My wife made me chuckle when she said it was so the CIA could give him the royal treatment for the rest of his life.

Though I've often wondered what would be worse death, or life behind bars with people that will hate you for what you did or worse (In my mind) living out your days in solitary for your own protection.

Either way the dude is scum and anything they did/do to him is better than he deserves.
 
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I have a hard time seeing this as a completly random murder/robbery. The whole story smells. No one digs any deeper when its so easy to follow the main stream narative and blame the crazy guy. This MO has been used to commit high profile assassinations in the past. Not saying goof ball didnt kill them, but i think there is more to the story.
 
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I can not speak for Chris, But Chris agreed to help him BEFORE he became a murderer of two highly decorated Navy SEALS. And I would agree Chris Kyle was at least twice the man of the majority people in our country. If it makes me less of a man in your eyes. Because I think he should die for his crimes. Well, I'm okay with that.
 
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All that worthless POS deserves is a 22 bullet in the back of the head like a coward he is. What a shame someone would even relate him to be on the same playing field as a US Marine! A POG at that, never even crossed the wire. Just like alot of the bitches coming back looking for attention, pointing a finger at whoever they can and crying about their instability. We all served in country, and all been effected by it to a point! ****ing man up! Your trained to above all else have a ****ing strong mind! If u can't handle it take yourself out and be done with it, why would you even consider harming someone else? And a damn American Hero at that!!! They need to fry his ass! Even better , advertise it on pay per view for a few months and show it on public TV for the same price as a UFC fight! Then take the multi millions it will make and donate it to our wounded warrior fund for real combat vets that deserve it and should be honored!!! No Mercy, My 2 cents!!
 
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Yes! I was SOOO glad to see that he got convicted. Waited and watched it live. I heard about this when it happened and was following it before I even know who Chris and Chad were and before I read his book, etc. Sad story. Hopefully his widow can START to move on with her life now.
 
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According to one news story, Routh admitted to drinking heavily and smoking quite a lot of "damp" marijuana the day of the murder. He said that marijuana might have been laced with some substance, which is why he was diagnosed with Marijuana Psychosis by one of the shrinks who examined him. I wonder if he had stopped using the pills, heavy drugs, marijuana and everything else, if he would have been less psychotic. His crazy behavior sounds like typical druggie nuttiness. SO glad he was found guilty.
 
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According to one news story, Routh admitted to drinking heavily and smoking quite a lot of "damp" marijuana the day of the murder. He said that marijuana might have been laced with some substance, which is why he was diagnosed with Marijuana Psychosis by one of the shrinks who examined him. I wonder if he had stopped using the pills, heavy drugs, marijuana and everything else, if he would have been less psychotic. His crazy behavior sounds like typical druggie nuttiness. SO glad he was found guilty.
Thats funny, that Doc must have got his expertise from the movie Reefer Madness

Irregardless of PTSD, this guy was Psychotic ie Schizophrenia, and the prosecutor had to go after the Reefer Madness excuse because there was no motive. Kyle said this guy was crazy himself them handed him a loaded gun, now thats crazy!

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this guy obviously had some sever mental illnesses, and yes the drugs dont help, but those of you who are caling it quote "typicial druggie nuttiness" are just ignorant. the reason people think that drugs make people crazy is because of people who are already crazy and then make their conditions worse with the chemically induced wild swings in brain chemistry.

Thats what drugs do, very few things pass the blood brain barrier so all the drugs that people do like, marijuana,cocaine, herion, LSD, Mushrooms, PCP, Meth and so on are just manual triggers to dump natural brain chemicals. usually a mix between serotonin (brains pleasure chemical) and norepinephrine (adrenaline), obviously there are more chemicals involved but thats what most drugs stimulate the release of.

Look at people with hyperactivity disorders, these are people that are wired constantly like they are on drugs, give them medication which consists of very strong stimulants, and they come down, they feel more lethargic and have less energy their brains treat amphetamines like a depressant and vice versa . Have a normal person take aderol or any other ADHD medication and they react normally by becoming very active.

So when someone who has unbalanced brain chemistry takes these drugs especially the strong ones they can do some pretty unpredictable things. Blaming drugs on what Routh did is bull****, the "psychologist" that claimed he had Marijuana induced psychosis WTF is that? was probably hired by his lawyers.

I have no clue what "marijuana induced psychosis" is but its sounds like a load of bull**** to me, I just looked it up and its a disconnect between reality and an altered perception!!! no **** thats why people SMOKE WEEK DUH!

Before prohibition you could walk into SEARs and buy medically pure Herion, and Cocaine. And very very few people were addicts. once it was made illegal, just like alcohol and the price shot through the roof the violence and criminal behavior shot through the roof along with the addiction rates.

Routh is obviously mentally ill, he probably is a schizo, that doesnt excuse what he did one bit.

The real tragedy here on top of Kyle and Littlefields murder is that despite all of his insane behavior, and all of the times he was admitted to a mental hospital we are speculating on what is wrong with him he should have been diagnosed, And he certainly shouldnt have been in uniform. People with a psychological weakness like that should be screened out. Or in rouths case if the stress of bootcamp and military life did precipitate his slip into schizophrenia he should have been rolled out when he started showing extremely violent behavior.


Schizophrenia is a very difficult disease to treat because even when people are on medication and are "fine" they are still very sick, and they believe that since they are doing good they dont need the meds anymore and stop taking them and go into a psychotic episode. then they get back on the meds and do fine for a while. Its a disturbing cycle.

I had a neighbor that was schizophrenic and she was wierd on her meds and a complete psycho off them. I have seen her bathing stark naked outside in sub freezing weather in these nasty little ponds and streams that are in the "backyards" of the condos I live in, I mean the works shampoo and soap, she even had a towel, I saw her eating out of a bird feeder. and I damn near shot her one night when she tried to get in the sliding glass door on my back porch, she had a phone book and was trying to break the glass with it. All I heard was the noise and grabbed my gun to go find out what the hell it was. when she saw me and the gun she grabbed a chair and swung it against the glass, it bounced back hitting her in the head and knocking her out. It was pretty funny actually but also disturbing, because she was out of her mind and freaked when she the the gun. and tried to get in harder, I would have had to kill her. All 3 times I had to call her family and the police for them to come and get her. And every single time she was back in 72 hours.


She finally broke the last straw, and got a permanent admittance and then transfer to a hlafway house was when she stabbed her brother in the chest with a corkscrew, he was fine. But when the police came to arrest this tiny little 110 lb 5'3" woman it took 3 very big officers to hold her down and even then they had a very hard time controlling her. It was like watching 3 guys sit on a bucking horse. They had to basically hog tie her because with just the cuffs on she was bouncing around in the back of the patrol car like a caged bear, the whole car was shaking violently and she was smashing her head against the plexiglass, the noise was unbelievable It sounded like taking a sledgehammer to concrete.

Every single time the police came to take her, except for the last time, she was pretty calm until they got the cuffs on her and then she would start to freak out. It always took 2-3 cops to hold her. The last time they came when she stabbed her brother, she was very agitated as before they showed up and it took them a good 5 minutes after getting hold of her to get her on the ground and then another 5 to cuff her. She was dragging the cops around like ragdolls with her as she tried to run, one had a hold of each of her arms and the other one had her in a half headlock half bearhug, he eventually just had to let go and make a running tackle on her to get her down. And Tazers pretty much dont work on people like that.

I dont understand why the family of this guy didnt do anything. If we want to stop crime on a massive scale, public mental health needs to be #1 priority. When someone gets arrested because they are acting nuts and they are convinced the CIA hired the mole people to to come and suck their brain out with a crazy straw, that person needs to be admitted longer than 72 hours without their consent and treated forcefully if needed.

Yeah that sounds harsh, and its a slippery slope but something needs to be done. Public education and stricter regulations for 72 hour admittance and an optional longer holding period like 5-10 days, the avg time antipsychotic's take to begin working, with non optional follow up treatments if a board of psychiatrists deems it necessary would be a good start.
 
#34 ·
The inaccuracies in your statement are too numerous for me to list because I only have six hours before I go to work. You're also making a lot of inaccurate assumptions and blanket statements. It appears you have little to no experience or training in the mental health and substance abuse field. If you do have training, you need to be retrained.
 
#35 ·
Not to tick anyone off, but it was a witch hunt. The guy was mentally unstable and it's been known since before the incident happened (even by Chris himself). My money is betting that Chris wouldn't have wanted him to be convicted and instead get the help he needs. Congratulations for undoing everything that Chris was striving to achieve. IMO, it's more of a slap in the face than justice...

It was a tragedy, but what would the dead men have wanted us to do?

*edit* I can see the powers to be using this as a means of making all Vets "unstable" due to the stress of war.