I have no children...and at this point I'm either dead, or still fighting with "similar" firepower. I guess this one doesn't apply to me.

If I'm not one of those two, I'm so far gone from civilization it doesn't matter. I won't be in a house either, they'll have to find my hut.

 

If this is happening and you don't have a seriouse defence with the right peolpe to defend with (which I do not) then the time to go gorilla has already come and gone.

 

well if they seem to be leaving if they think there is nobody there, then of course you don't answer. If I plan on opening fire if they do bust in, it would depend on how many of them there were, among other things.

 

Keep all of your preps well hidden in the home and in various caches in your area. If you must open the door they will not find a thing and be on their way. However, after seeing them slay an unarmed person, I would grab the video camera and get a little evidence to be used later while hunkering down as quiet as possible and let them pass on by. Now if they kick down my door after I've witnessed them murdering an unarmed person, then I would be justified in defending myself. I would be in fear of death and/or serious bodily harm and I doubt any juror would convict me otherwise, especially if I had my little piece of evidence to show in court.

 

how to keep kids from making noise thats an easy one you take off your shoe and then remove your sock stank and all then you shove it as nicly as possable into a childs mouth. what they made it to my door how the hell did that happen? nope no door answering going on here. do i fight back if they kick the door in,you bet your lead i would.

 

:rofl: Ok, sock in the mouth is one way to keep them quiet.
Has anyone trained their children in this? I'm not worried about adults. We can stay quiet w/ our guns pointed in hopes they don't bother with us.
I'm very worried about the child who will be with us. He screams & cries if he sees a spider. I can only imagine how he would act in a 'all hell breaks lose' situation.
So any ideas on how to keep 'em quiet, no whimpering at all, would be greatly appreciated. :thumb:
If they don't know we're there, hopefully they will move on down the road

 

Problems like that are better solved through the use of explosives and 1 inch deck nails.

 

Seems a little excessive in an effort to keep your kids quiet.

2 cents

 

if it would get to such a point ....

Firstly if they knocked and no answer and they left all is good. (my MOST wanted option)
Secondly if there is such a point .... the first thing they would encounter is an IED while kicking in the door an a IED while retreating to regroup. AK fire from front and flank ....

Wipe all survivors and bug out ASAP ...


Nasty scenerio ....

IED"S by the way are too ez to make .... I will not go into it but ..... After 2 tours .... Its scary what we as humans can do to each other and how simple and deadly we can make it. .... I pray it would never get to that

 

Looking at Katrina,didn't they kick ALL the doors open,just to see if someone was there?

 

Only in some areas. In my father's neighborhood they only knocked and asked if anybody was in the house.

 

ied are easy to make thats for sure but i'm not try'n to have any pre made ones wiht a kid run'n round either

 

LMAO! NO DOUBT!!! I reload so I have ample blackpowder and shot. Both my kids are 9 and 12 so small stupidity factor. One can be made with caps and fishing line and a clothes pin in less than 2 min if you are in a rush.


EDIT: no i will give no recipies (unless a friend )

 

humungus the problem with choking them out is but daddy choking kid out will have long lasting effects. course i've used duct tape on kyras little kisser and it works well to.believe it or not it was at her request. pinned her arms with duct tape to whe she grows up i'm worried shes gonna have a duct tape fetish or something really wierd like that

 

i've used duct tape on kyras little kisser and it works well to.believe it or notit was at her request. pinned her arms with duct tape to whe she grows up i'm worried shes gonna have a duct tape fetish or something really wierd like that

Ummm...sounds like she already does.

 

course i've used duct tape on kyras little kisser and it works well to.believe it or not it was at her request. pinned her arms with duct tape to whe she grows up i'm worried shes gonna have a duct tape fetish or something really wierd like that

Yah think!

 

No kids...problem solved.
Don't live in a yuppie 1/4 acre to a lot subdivision...problem solved.
By the time they get this far out, there would be several families,no small kids here...not just one man & woman.

 

I'm in the middle of the country.. I'd be out the back door and into the woods with gear and weapons before they got here

No kids, no anyone, just me.

 

If they dragged my neighbors out of their house I couldn't see it. My nearest neighbor is almost 6 miles away. If I'm hearing gun shots and I know the S has HTF I'm out the back door until I know what's going on. I can see the thrid bend from my house and if I'm seeing army vehicles I'm definetly out the door and gone. I have my spot I'm going to for safety. No trails to it, no sign of it from the air or ground.
Bye, bye boys, enjoy the house. I'm outa here.

Rill

 

Children should be trained to do as you tell them. They can be trained and are very intelligent at even a young age.

In a case like you are describing of house to house searches, you should of been gone long before this. In a bad guy / gestapo military sweep, they don't care about lawful proceedings and etc. They will search every home regardless of whether your place appears to contain residents. They will be thorough and ruthless. If they even think you have looked at them wrong, you're dead. What they see and want, they will take: property or people.

 

I would have good caches squirrled away and well hidden. mostly likely they will move fast and not search long. Mainly tear up your place. More likly just neighborehood thugs. i would empty the covers and make it look like someone beat then to the punch. Let them come in tear up a little. Regroup with your neighbors which by that time will have open their eyes now and do what they are doing in Iraq and Afgahan. Hate to say it but more than likely it will be part of that civil army and not the real military which has been over there handling this for a long time. Well, just use theri tricks on them. Thanks for the training Uncle Sam

 

In a drastic situation with in which you have a little time. Option one is ether just make sure you have some keeping an eye on the kid. Ether can make you stop breathing. If you have a little more time a shot of vodka in a glass of cool aid and they fall asleep.

D.

 

If the situation was that bad , I'd follow the Russian "scorched earth" policy they used effectively in WW2.

Load as many preps into my car as I can and get the hell out.

Then, just before I leave, set my house ablaze, destroying all contents inside.

No way my preps are going to support NWO pigs.

 

Sounds to me like you and your neighbors have them surrounded. You open fire BEFORE they get to your house. Preferably when they are heading down the road on the way. (if their intentions are known). The people doing the search and seizure, are looking out for their family, and value their job more than their elegance to their country or constitution. If there is armed resistance, their loyalty to that job may change. Defections will be common. Applications for his job will drop sharply as well.

 

we do have childeren stay with us on occassions and given the senerio they and my wife along with several rifles, shotguns, and pistols are going to the saferoom, like i said in other posts frist jackbooted thug to boot the door in will be met by a 400gr solid from my winchester 70 in 458 win mag body armour is optional, next will be a volley of fire between high powered rifles and .223's i will take down as many as i can before they put my american ass in a FEMA camp,hell i even resort to muzzleloading before i give up.

 

might be good time to ply wood windows & doors on 1st --as stated on another site troops mark places they have been-- a little recon -to where they have been --noise & light control is key--my theme is friends will kill you faster then bullets- loose lips sink ships

 

Start taking them out before they even get to my house. A good sniper can take out a hell of a lot of people before he is finally killed.

 

You run out and say "Oh thank God you have come to help us, we are starving to death".:upsidedown::thumb:

 

As chunky as I am, that's not likely to work. ROFL!

 

Given the scenario you provided this is the time to fight.
I suppose if, like some others said, you have hidden everything well that you can hide and then come back too.
I think about myself and I think I would answer the door for them with bullets in their bodies before they drag me out and shoot me or make me a slave later on or even worse.

 

What we need here is a plan.

These "What If" posts are good as food for thought. By the time the Pseudo Military starts looting, The word should have already be front page news. Hopefully folks will have already stashed their goods in multiple locations. You should have a few "Items" just in case you have to make it look good. These kinds of thieves are happier if they leave with "something".
Now, and I hate to say it, if one is caught with their pants down, I think we are obligated to take out as many as possible. I am not saying die in place, if one can escape. It is always better to wait and attack from a position of power. If you can't run, well...
P.S. I am USAF RET. Real solders do not act this way. Anyone who does is a looter plain and simple. Hopefully some of the "Real Solders" will give guys like this a permanent demotion! Sadly some of our troops did Loot during Katrina. Man am I glad I wasn't there. It would have cost me my job!