PTSD?
I had been told that the vets recieving disability based on PTSD need to fear this type of thing

 

I can find nothing to indicate that there were any issues. I have worked with Lakewood PD on several cases over the years. I have generally found them to be a good crew. Hopefully truth will out.

 

Confusing to me too unless they have the M21 right and it is a M14 sniper rifle not a SKS. In that case if could be a NFA weapon but you would think somebody would have picked up on that by now unless nobody but nobody in that circus knows anything about guns or gun laws.

Another obfuscation of facts and details coming up while the civilian police department of this little burgh try to hide their errors and compound the injury to a veteran. Hopefully somebody somewhere will man up and make it right before it gets expensive for everybody.

 

I'll praise vets all day, but some UNNECESSARILY seek PTSD status because that means they can get a disability. Well, if they go for that or admit to it, they are going to lose their firearms rights. It's their admission, them claiming it. It's horrible when it's authentic and there is real PTSD, but that's a person saying they're too mentally F'd up to be trusted with firearms and when authentic, that person shouldn't have it. Combined with substance abuse it can get dangerous. Even the hero Audie Murphy had a period of 'adjustment' from 'combat fatigue'. He found himself pointed a .45 Colt at his first wife's head one night after heavy drinking and thinking and realized he needed help...he wasn't right to have firearms at that point. Later, he got better...and no, he wasn't seeking disability.

 

Had not heard that about Murphy.
Thanks for sharing it.

 

I have no information that her disability is PTSD or other mental issue. If someone else finds that, please post a link.

 

The vet is a she, this is strange.

 

This is strange. Terrible reporting there. There's an article that mentions disabled vet in the headline and then in the body that she's not under any disability.

WTF?

 

Not under any disability that would prevent her from legally owning the said firearms.


Al

 

It's OK guys. They haven't confiscated them yet. At least, that is according to paragraph 8. That means she still has time to hide them.

I know it's a typo.:


Al

 

Just because a vet has PTSD does NOT mean they lose their right to own firearms.

 

Correct. The veteran has to be ADJUDICATED (by a JUDGE) to be a danger to himself or others; or to be declared (by a judge) to be mentally incompetent and must be represented by a guardian.
PTSD, by itself, will not negate one's right to keep and bear arms.

 

The one disability that definitely can cause a loss of gun rights involves mental health issues. If they've been institutionalized, this can be a problem.

We've all seen it, unless someone is like 14 years old or never bought a new firearm on th ATF form:

Have you ever been adjucated mentally defective(which includes having been adjudicated incompetent to manage your own affairs) or have been committed to a mental institution?

There are different levels of PTSD. If a person gets institutionalized involuntarily based on actions, their gun rights are wrong. Locally, there also might be restrictions based on drug or alcohol dependency, and I've heard about some veteran who couldn't drive, own a firearms, operate equipment, etc., because he passed out frequently, did involuntary movements and had some other effects of a head injury.

 

Ok, just to clarify (if other haven't made it clear enough already)
A PHYSICAL disability cannot disqualify someone from firearms ownership (not even being blind!)
If you have be adjudicated and found mentally unfit, you can be disqualified from firearms ownership in Ohio. This is covered in the ORC. http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.13
Since she has not been charged under this statue, it is pretty safe to assume that she is not 'disabled' in the sense that that law describes.

Just because she is a Disabled Veteran does not in any way indicate that her issue is a mental one. My mom was a disabled Veteran (WM - WWII) Her mental health was fine.

English does have its oddities, doesn't it?

 

My computer wont allow the link [I have no idea why] but saying the sks is a sniper rifle is probably liberal bull.

 

Which link?

 

Way to go, violating that citizens 2nd amendment right. Vet or not, he or she; doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that they are a US citizen and they have an inherent right to own firearms.

I hope the city ends up firing the chief for allowing this crap to happen on his watch.

 

The real crime is the violation of this vet's 4th amendment rights. No warrant, no consent equals no legal entry. Then her firearms were taken, if the police stop her from buying more then that is a 2nd amendment violation. As it stands now I see it as either a flagrant violation of the constitution or burglary. Too bad those that answer the 911 call if she were to report it are those that perpetrated it.

 

Its a woman and its her time of the month I see the issue JK!

 

I can't remember the name of it, but there is a statute where the PTB get your stuff and you have to sue to get it back, even if they take it without cause. Civil domain, or civil something.

 

Not too sure about RICO applying here. http://rico.uslegal.com/ Usually for RICO there has to be a financial angle for the offenders.

 

"The process is the punishment," as they say. If the police neither return the property, nor account for why they didn't, then there must be some other motive. The obvious suspicion is that they were doing it for another party. It would only have to be credible enough to drag them through the mud for months/years and procedurally torture everyone they know.

 

NO WARRANT signs of things to come. People speculate all the time if police will back the [PEOPLE] or follow orders that they are given [Well heres a good example of what we should expect.

 

PTSD doesn't mean people shouldn't have firearms. It does mean you can't surprise them in any way, touch them unexpectedly, etc.

If anybody bothers my man's guns, I'll just buy them myself. I don't have PTSD. Just perpetual bitchitude.

 

The pleadings are lacking his attorney should ahve aske for an order returning the weapons or in lieu of that a Temporary Restraining Order prohibiting the Department from destroying the weapons. His attorney should have also been a littlee more agressive asking for discovery and depositions of the officers involved.

 

On the M-21 SKS could be the maker.?

 

HOLY CRAP they listed the sr# realize someone said this but again holy crap......

 

not that rare, quite common in fact in court documents. Its a court filing, hence a public record.

 

my bad I binged it .Its just another SKS if you put a scope on a red rider its a sniper rifle.

 

But to the main point of this.They wonder why I dont talk about jack with the VA.

 

If its due to Mental Health, they can confiscate any weapons deemed to be a hazard to that person or anyone else. However, the police have to have a warrant to confiscate them UNLESS they firearms were willingly handed over.