Not just this case. Every other case he has been involved will be called into question. Stupid.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/20/us/baltimore-cop-allegedly-planting-evidence/index.html

I'm not sure what is worse, him planting the drugs, or his two buddies(the good apples) watching him.

At the VERY least, this creates reasonable doubt in the defendant's case.

Any way you slice it, this guy gets an f on his report card.

There are no good apples here. All three (3) of these officers are BAD; because they failed to uphold the law and allowed a crime to take place; otherwise, they would have spoken up and arrested the other cop.
.

 

This is why I have no sympathy for "I forgot to have my body cam on."

 

Didn't watch the video, but if this / these officer(s) are found guilty they should receive a prison sentence.

 

Why is it imperative to get a prosecution no matter what?

 

I know ,assume they are really criminals and not legitimate law enforcement. You want me in jail? I'll give you a really good reason then,standby.

If they want a crime then do it up right. They may not live to see whomever prosecuted though.

 

It looks really bad. Either it was flat out framing or it, as the department is claiming, was a manufacturing of evidence via 'reenactment' without clearly labeling it as such. Even in the best case scenario this is still a crime. How good their intentions are is pretty irrelevant given the hard drilling by academy, certification testing, and continuing education efforts on how you do and don't collect evidence.

There's more than enough probable cause to arrest all 3. How severe the charge will be is up for investigation though.

 

there needs to be a database for LEO's that do this... so they can't go elsewhere and start over as LEO's...

 

You have to report every single criminal charge, arrest, or even investigation of you when you apply to work as a LEO. At least here any criminal matter relating to you goes straight to the Peace Officer Standards and Training commission and they'll yank your license in a hurry if there's official accusations of any offense related to law enforcement work or 'crimes of moral turpitude.' If probable cause is found to arrest them for falsifying evidence, their licenses will be pulled pretty much immediately and they will be banned from working in any position with arrest powers and the commission is very unlikely to reverse that even if you're found not guilty.

 

Is there a law that applies to this act in particular? It's obvious what they're doing is illegal and immoral, but what would be the specific charge?

There's another thread about how to develop a relationship with your local law enforcement. If this type of stuff is going on in your area why would you want to? This is exactly the problem, these scumbags damage the trust, the respect and undermine the authority of every cop in that area. They do all that damage and they're still protected by their department, that screws everyone

 

I can think of a few:
Manufacturing evidence/Tampering with evidence
Filing a false report
Official misconduct or conduct unbecoming
False arrest and probably a few more that I can't think of right now

Maybe these don't carry massive jail time or fines but it should be enough to get you fired and reverse every arrest and court hearing you testified in thrown out. There should be zero tolerance for this kind of behavior if the police want to be respected.

Maybe this is why cops don't like cameras.

 

I refuse to be a victim of "authority". I don't understand the immediate suspicion when you are the one that called the authorities. Geez,I would hate to be related to "authority".

Tackleberry Syndrome. Some have it and most don't.

 

Body cameras on the entire shift, no exceptions. At the end of the shift you turn in your data storage and it gets security sealed for a month awaiting complaint or investigation. After month you get it back to scrub it of personal info.

Yes, there might be personal info on it. That's why it gets sealed for a period of time, not passed around. As for officers feeling uncomfortable about being seen answering personal cell phone cars or grabbing their laundry on duty? Welcome to the world the rest of us drones live in where bosses spy on your every move while on the clock. I'll walk up to any of my workers when their cell phone rings and they answer it. Unless it's the school or hospital calling that a family member has trouble then I only want to hear them saying Not Now - I'm At Work! I know plenty of jobs where taking care of personal business on the clock is grounds for immediate termination. Then again I see my workers stop and rest for a while or grab something to drink and I walk on by because I know they aren't machines. If the camera shows a couple cops meeting for 15 minutes talking about the shift over free coffee at the Kwicky Mart at midnight then IA needs to stfu about it. And if the footage isn't needed for a case or there is no complaint then the data stick needs to be handed back sealed to the officer a month later.

PD's need to embrace the always on body camera concept and iron out the human factor issues that come with putting someone constantly under a microscope.

 

Okay, but I wanna be able to turn it off on special occasions. I think the first and last frames of the missing footage being the entrance of the bathroom or locker room should be sufficient. IA could rightfully claim assault on them for making them watch that part and I don't want my necessity to take 15 minutes instead of 5 to take a dump to be a matter of video evidence in debate at court.

 

I think body cameras have a lot of potential, but we need to be clear about their downsides. These things can and will break down, run out of batteries and memory, come loose, fall off, the video won't catch something important, etc. When these things happen, it will create major problems.

We need to be aware that these are not a cure-all. The ethical cultures needs to be extremely strong, with very harsh sentences for people who abuse their power.

 

If he was planting the drugs, he and the witnesses need to go to prison.

If he wasn't and was just recreating the discovery of the evidence, he needs to be fired and the two coworkers punished.

I don't know about Baltimore but we have been trained not to replace evidence after it's been moved. You can still take a picture of the area you found it in and explain that.

 

On the other hand,I see almost weekly where a body/dash cam saves a career against false complaints.

 

And that's a great thing, it protects everyone involved

 

<Deleted>

 

I certainly would not want to be a former law enforcement in prison or jail. I hear they are treated poorly by other prisoners.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/20/us/baltimore-cop-allegedly-planting-evidence/index.html

I'm not sure what is worse, him planting the drugs, or his two buddies(the good apples) watching him.

At the VERY least, this creates reasonable doubt in the defendant's case.

Any way you slice it, this guy gets an f on his report card.

All 3 are bad apples if all 3 let that happen.

 

I would have loved having a body cam. We didn't have them. Had one vehicle with a dash cam. It never did work right.

But we had digital cameras in every car and the rule was to use those to take pictures for cases involving bigger issues. Toss a car, if you found something, you stopped and took a picture of it. Then collected the evidence. That policy worked well enough if the officers followed it.

Back in the early days of my career, we didn't have digital stuff. We had the old Polaroid cameras. Yeah I'm dating myself. Still, a picture of anything was great.

 

"Getting rid of body cameras is actually one of BLM's demands."

Not doubting you one bit....

Do you have anything I could read about that?

I found this, but not BLM....

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/when-police-body-cameras-arent-answer

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-body-cameras-arent-helping_us_57fd0cf7e4b0e655eab7b7f1

 

https://policy.m4bl.org/end-war-on-black-people/

We demand an end to the war against Black people. Since this country’s inception there have been named and unnamed wars on our communities. We demand an end to the criminalization, incarceration, and killing of our people. This includes:

An end to the mass surveillance of Black communities, and the end to the use of technologies that criminalize and target our communities (including IMSI catchers, drones, body cameras, and predictive policing software).

 

The number one problem with video evidence, IMO, is that when it is edited by the media it creates a very power tool. How many times has the media played a clip of a body or dash cam to fit their narrative only to find out later that the footage before or after that clip changed the context of the event entirely?

 

Have an ultrasonic track of a public domain song playing "underneath" as a way to mitigate tampering and or editing?

Radios use an inaudible tone to access repeaters so somthing like that should work.

 

Perjury also comes to mind.. You did certify that the material in the report was true.. Right?

 

Always on body cams? What about when they are using the "facilities"? They have a right to privacy then. But now they have an excuse to turn off the camera anytime they need to do so...
Maybe TSA will share their "fig leaf" technology with the body camera manufacturers

 

The cameras aren't bolted to their chests. Just move the camera to their uniform epaulet and it points to the ceiling. The only thing on camera will then be the ceiling of the restroom. It's just not that complicated.

 

Anybody who watches pro football on TV knows that one camera filming from one angle hardly ever gives a correct and exact depiction of a play. The same problem occurs with body cams. What one camera shows (or seems to show) isn't necessarily what really happened.

 

I say it all the time and it's something that my sons now reitterate to others now that they are grown...

It's never right to do the wrong thing.

I don't care what his reasoning was. It was not the right thing to do and all it did was jeopardize his career, the career of the ones he expects to lie for him and the integrity of his entire department in the eyes of the community. There is no honor in what he did and that is a core principle.

 

News today said 34 criminal cases in Baltimore have been thrown out because of the crooked cop planting evidence.
Way to protect and serve buddy

 

Well were those 34 drug possession cases or 34 burglary, rape, murder, theft, robbery investigations? The latter are of more value than the former.

 

Of course a new trial even without the cops testimony or evidence would still go badly for prosecutor when defense brings up crooked cop planting evidence.

 

I would think that a good prosecutor who had the defense squash the cop's evidence could get the judge to declare that if the evidence is out then the cop is out too. You can't have it both ways. If the cop is in then the evidence is in. I'm not a lawyer, nor play on on television, but I'm pretty sure that you can't use parts from a source the way you want and then exclude the rest you don't.