Survivalist Forum banner

Cleric’s chilling warning to UK

7.1K views 61 replies 20 participants last post by  Dwind  
#1 ·
By OLIVER HARVEY
Chief Feature Writer
in Kahuta, Pakistan

Published: 31 Dec 2007

A FANATICAL Pakistani cleric told The Sun yesterday of his chilling dream to turn the world Muslim – by force if necessary.

Qari Hifzur Rehamn, 60, spoke openly of imposing Islamic law’s stoning and beheading on Britain – as Pakistan was rocked by unrest over the assassination of Benazir Bhutto.

He warned: “We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world.

“We would like to do this by preaching. But if not then we would use force.”

Rehamn, 60, spoke in the Pakistani town of Kahuta as the call to prayer echoed over the dusty streets.

He is Imam of the town’s fundamentalist religious school or madrassa, where classes for kids as young as nine include Jihad or Holy War and barbaric punishments.

His teachings are frightening enough. But his mosque lies in the shadow of the secret bunker where Pakistan produces nuclear weapons.

And when asked if it would be right to nuke British infidels, he laughed and answered: “Probably.”


Army

Rehamn, in a flowing grey beard and turban, explained Islamic, or Sharia Law as we sat surrounded by some of his 250 students.

He said: “Adulterers who are married should be buried in earth to the waist and stoned to death.

“Homosexuals must be killed – it’s the only way to stop them spreading. It should be by beheading or stoning, which the general public can do.

“Thieves should have their hands cut off. Women should remain indoors and films and pop music should be banned.”

So what does he think of Britain? The dad insisted: “The nonbelievers must be converted to Islam. Morals in your society, with women wearing revealing clothes, have gone wrong.”



Scary ... playground nuke

Phil Hannaford
The spot where enriched uranium is produced for Pakistan’s 80 to 120 nuclear warheads is behind razor wire less than five miles from where we spoke.

A dummy missile even sits in a children’s playground in Kahuta.

Only this month, doomed opposition leader Benazir Bhutto raised the spectre of al-Qaeda-linked Islamic militants seizing control of Pakistan’s nuclear warheads – and activity by radicals near Kahuta.

Despite the efforts of politicians such as her to champion democracy, the country has long been a hotbed of Islamic extremism and there is no shortage of potential martyrs.

At the Red Mosque in the heart of the capital Islamabad, Maulana Mohavya Irshad, 24, stared coldly at me. He said: “I’m ready to become a suicide bomber and lay down my life for Islam. Democracy is wrong. Earth belongs to God and God’s law must be implemented.

“I hope Britain and the rest of the world will have Sharia Law this century. We will continue to sacrifice our lives to achieve this.”

Meanwhile, the al-Qaeda warlord accused of masterminding the death of Ms Bhutto, 54, has warned his 13,000-strong private army will fight to the death against any troops sent to seize him.

Long-bearded Baitullah Mehsud, holed up in the bandit country of South Waziristan on the Afghan border, denied being behind Bhutto’s murder last Thursday in a suicide bomb attack in Rawalpindi.

But his cousin Shehryar Mehsud, 34, told The Sun: “Baitullah and the rest of us will fight to the last man.

Our army of thousands of Muslim brothers is ready for Jihad against the infidels and against the infidel government in Pakistan.



“UK and America are the enemy number one of Islam. We have joined the Taliban troops fighting in Afghanistan and will continue Jihad until we liberate the country.”
The Pakistani government claims a phone-tap caught Mehsud, 34, and a cleric gloating over Bhutto’s death, calling it “spectacular”.

His cousin insisted: “Baitullah Mehsud is not involved in the killing of Western ally Benazir Bhutto.


Fight

“We did not kill her but she was against Islam and Islamic teachings.”

Another of his clan, Mohamad Ali Mehsud, 26, bragged to The Sun about Mehsud striking from his lair in Pakistan against British and US forces in Afghanistan.

Mohamad said: “Baitullah is cunning. He moves positions all the time and uses disguises. Many times he has survived by a whisker.

“His men cross into Afghanistan, fight infidel soldiers and steal laptops, mobile phones and money. They bribe the soldiers guarding the border to get back into Pakistan.”

But did Mehsud kill Bhutto? Mohamad said: “Baitullah didn’t like Bhutto’s lipstick and Western ways. But he didn’t kill her. He only kills men.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article634210.ece
 
#60 · (Edited)
David7745 ive been saying this for years that are culture is being eroded and some moron on this site tryed to insinuate i was a member of the BNP or a skin head,As soon as you speak the truth some Liberal prick shouts racist well bo--ocks to them cos when it kicks off they will come a running for are help and ill say p-ss off cos you appessed these people.:mad:
 
#59 ·
Britain's Christian status at risk: bishop

January 6, 2008 - 5:00PM
Source: ABC

A rise in Islamist extremism is creating "no-go areas" in Britain for non-Muslims, a senior Anglican bishop has said in a newspaper article, warning the country's Christian status was at risk.

Michael Nazir-Ali, the Church of England's Bishop of Rochester in south-east England, wrote in the Sunday Telegraph that Britain's much-vaunted multicultural model had often created separate, deeply divided communities.

"Alongside these developments, there has been a worldwide resurgence of the ideology of Islamic extremism," said the Pakistan-born cleric, whose father converted to Catholicism from Islam.

"One of the results of this has been to further alienate the young from the nation in which they were growing up and also to turn already separate communities into 'no-go' areas where adherence to this ideology has become a mark of acceptability.

"Those of a different faith or race may find it difficult to live or work there because of hostility to them. In many ways, this is but the other side of the coin to far-right intimidation."

The bishop went on to criticise British attempts to accommodate the practices of other faiths, including the Muslim call to prayer and incorporating aspects of Sharia (Islamic) law into the country's civil code or banking system.

His comments are likely to fuel further discussion about the effects of immigration and Britain's tolerance of other cultures, which has been increasingly questioned by the country's mainly right-of-centre press.

Bishop Nazir-Ali said he feared that by not upholding Christianity as the British faith, a multi-faith "mish mash" was being created that lacked the "underpinning of a moral and spiritual vision".

"(The) establishment of the Church of England is being eroded. My fear is, in the end, nothing will be left but the smile of the Cheshire Cat," he wrote.

"If it had not been for the black majority churches and the recent arrival of people from central and eastern Europe, the Christian cause in many of our cities would have looked a lost one."

The newspaper also noted a survey of the Church of England's "parliament," the General Synod, suggesting 63 per cent of senior clergy thought the Church could cease to be the preferred national religion within a generation.

- AFP

http://www.bigpond.com/news/breaking/content/20080106/2132573.asp
 
#53 ·
oooooooops
 
#46 ·
There are between 1.2 and 1.5 billion Muslims in the world compared to 1,026,501,000 Roman Catholics and 316,445,000 Protestants in the world giver or take half dozen.
 
#43 ·
Over my dead body will the UK ever become a muslim country. Realistically I do not think they are capable of changing it through preeching or ''jihad'' even if they did use nuclear weapons they would kill most of the muslims aswell so the idiot cleric makes a stupid argument.
 
#42 ·
wish it was that easy. You'll just have to do what we are trying to doing and start hard on top of your governmental fools.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AncientBrit
#40 ·
England has with out a doubt caught heck from terrorist and fanatics and has stood should to shoulder with America (every since we kicked you guys out, back around 1776 or so :D)
 
#39 ·
All ive got to say is bring it on there are a lot of English Men ready to fight and die for this Land,So if this fanatic wants a pop come to England and ill personally cut his heart out.Cos im sick of people threatning my country from far or with in. And you americans have also got my support in full.
 
#38 ·
Oh I don't know about that I have right down enjoyed my stay here and hope to be around a bit longer.:rolleyes:

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."
Will Rogers
 
#34 ·
"I'm sorry and I mean no offense at all,to say British leaders do tend to be more eloquent than US ones."
Yes, we may be a little blunt some times but real Americans like to get the point across with out a lot of BS and without leaving any doubt any any ones mind.

Kind like what one of our American Indian/cowboy's said:
"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock."
Will Rogers
 
#33 ·
I don't fear death, I fear leaving my kid a worse world than I was given. I fear not caring that the country I grew up with, the 'last superpower' finally collapsing under its own weight of ineptitude.

We have worse things to fear than death, friends
 
#32 · (Edited)
Bloody brilliant madcritter.
I wasn't saying Americans are cowards or anything (my grandfather had a great deal of respect for the American fighting man). Only the out of character responses to that loud mouth Mudj and every other cheap bearded thug who's adopted by our media.

Here is Churchill and the British people during their darkest hour.
I'm sorry and I mean no offense at all, but British leaders are sometimes more eloquent than US ones.
 
#31 ·
I'm not to sure where you read that American's feared anyone, I missed that, but a little fear is a good thing, it helps keep you on your toes. But don't think for one second that fear would stop us from fighting. Check our record seems we have put in more fighting men in the last few wars to included the one in progress as I sit here typing. than any other country. The Object is to avoid another Pearl Harbor or 911. It is better to know thy enemy and be ready. There are a lot of old boy scouts running around here who understand the theory of being prepared, know and respect(fear used the right way can lead to a healthy respect of your enemy..
You would think that Mr Churchill was talking about American's in his speech on June 4th 1940 when he said "we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender, "

Un like England we are allowed to own firearms to defend our selfs. I live two blocks from the beach like 2000 of my neighbors here on my small island am armed and would not hesitate to go to the beach to meet an enemy force.

Never short change the American people.

Just part of a speech that tells you something about American's:
"Men, this stuff we hear about America wanting to stay out of the war, not wanting to fight, is a lot of bull****. Americans love to fight - traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. When you were kids, you all admired the champion marble player; the fastest runner; the big league ball players; the toughest boxers. Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win - all the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost, not ever will lose a war, for the very thought of losing is hateful to an American.

You are not all going to die. Only two percent of you here today would die in a major battle. Death must not be feared. Every man is frightened at first in battle. If he says he isn't, he's a ******* liar. Some men are cowards, yes! But they fight just the same, or get the hell shamed out of them watching men who do fight who are just as scared. The real hero is the man who fights even though he is scared. Some get over their fright in a minute under fire, some take an hour. For some it takes days. But the real man never lets fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty to this country and his innate manhood.

All through your army career you men have bitched about "This chicken**** drilling." That is all for a purpose. Drilling and discipline must be maintained in any army if for only one reason -- INSTANT OBEDIENCE TO ORDERS AND TO CREATE CONSTANT ALERTNESS. I don't give a damn for a man who is not always on his toes. You men are veterans or you wouldn't be here. You are ready. A man to continue breathing must be alert at all times. If not, sometime a German son-of-a-bitch will sneak up behind him and beat him to death with a sock full of ****."
General George Patton.

America has lots of veterans running around.

I fear, yes I fear that America is more at threat from the illegal invasion taking over our country from our south than any possible military invasion.
 
#30 · (Edited)
I've not read all the posts, forgive me my friends.
I respect all of you but you fear too much my brothers.

WE IN BRITAIN ARE NOT AFRAID OF PAJAMA CLAD, BROWN SKINNED NUTTERS WITH LONG BEARDS.
f, UK, em. So to speak. :p

The Sun newspaper is full of naked boobs, celebrity gossip and much more useless rubbish. This is, and can only be propaganda against the Islamofascist kind. Not that I'm complaining but take it for what it is. Britain won't be defeated by a bunch of stone age loonies. Every country that has beaten England on home soil has been a warrior race in its prime. In order to beat England you had to be one of the most powerful military powers in human history. There's no way Britain is going to be defeated by a bunch of *********.

Sorry for my rant, most unbecoming of me:D
YB
 
#28 ·
Anwar, Alaska has enough to last that long and the drilling would only effect 2000 acres of the 1.5 million acres of the coastal plain area. It would also create 250,000 to 750,000 jobs. If the fools in DC will enforce our laws we have on the books right now those jobs would not go to the damn illegal invaders but would provided jobs for real Americans.
Then there would be jobs for Americans off the Florida beaches if they would stop worrying about some rich foreigner having to look out the window of his million dollar home and seeing an oil rig 10 miles off the beach.
 
#26 ·
It is past time to start drilling in Anwar and off the Florida cost it's the fastest way to be less dependent on muslim and little commie south of the border oil.