Help! I just bought a century ak47, went to use it today Shot it once an it would not reload and fire again. It did eject the spent cartridge. To fire it again I had to pull the bolt back and load shell that way! Can anyone help me!!!!!!!!!
Robsfordf150
So, it failed to feed a fresh round?
As Ak guy said, clean your rifle in and out to be sure, but usually a mag issue there. Mark the mag and try a different one. Then go back to that mag, if it happens again, you know it's the mag.
As Ak guy said, clean your rifle in and out to be sure, but usually a mag issue there. Mark the mag and try a different one. Then go back to that mag, if it happens again, you know it's the mag.
1 point the gun in a safe direction.
2 load a full mag.
3 pull handle back and let go
4 repeat x10, see how may fail to chamber
5 look for problem
if it cycles fine you could have a weak spring, if it trys to feed two rounds it could be a bad mag or poor fit in reciever. Did you clean the weapon, is it a brand new weapon, has it had 10,000 rounds thrugh it already, dose the hammer stay back or cocked, how much did it cost? all these are clues.
I would remove the wood and spray the whole weapon with Breakclean from the auto parts store, then lightly lube with Rem oil from the gun store then clean the barrel ( dont lube the gas piston at all. then try another (new if possible warsaw pact) mag
Tapco mags dont work well or last long, lips wear to quickly.
then repeat 1-5. if it doesnt work then i would use it as a club to beat whoever sold it to me. but thats just the way i am.
2 load a full mag.
3 pull handle back and let go
4 repeat x10, see how may fail to chamber
5 look for problem
if it cycles fine you could have a weak spring, if it trys to feed two rounds it could be a bad mag or poor fit in reciever. Did you clean the weapon, is it a brand new weapon, has it had 10,000 rounds thrugh it already, dose the hammer stay back or cocked, how much did it cost? all these are clues.
I would remove the wood and spray the whole weapon with Breakclean from the auto parts store, then lightly lube with Rem oil from the gun store then clean the barrel ( dont lube the gas piston at all. then try another (new if possible warsaw pact) mag
Tapco mags dont work well or last long, lips wear to quickly.
then repeat 1-5. if it doesnt work then i would use it as a club to beat whoever sold it to me. but thats just the way i am.
My friend had this problem recently with a Tapco magazine. He was using it to support the gun when shooting . The pressure on the magazine was causing the gun to jam. He stopped putting the pressure on it and it worked fine. As others have said, check the magazine.
Make sure to do what everyone has said. Clean, check magazine fit.
Century is known for taking single stack WASR's and wharrler out the mag well to take double stack magazines. This isn't an uncommon problem with the WASR's.
Since these hit the market they have been giving the AK a bad name. If you cannot get it to function. I would take it back where you bought it and tell them they sold you a broken gun. Do not send it to century. You will most likely never see it or your money again.
If you must have a WASR. Spend to take it to a smith if you are not willing or know how to fix the issue.
Most likely it is a magazine issue.
Things to check:
(first make sure the gun is not loaded or has a magazine that is loaded in the firearm. Visually inspect the chamber and feel inside the chamber to make sure the firearm is unloaded. always point the firearm in a safe direction. Remember to treat every firearm as if were loaded even if you know it is not.)
Does the magazine wobble to the left and right when it is in the gun?
Is the magazine you are using clean and free of dirt or grime?
Is the rifle clean? Did you clean it before you took it out to shoot?
Does the bolt and carrier fully close? or lock into place when you send it forward?
Look at the magazine well. Does it look off center?
Are there any obstruction inside the firearm?
If the magazine you are using does not fit tightly or close to tightly inside the magazine well. Use another magazine and see if you get the same issue. Try to use another maker of magazines. Some types may not run in the firearm. Or it is poorly fitted for that firearm.
If nothing changes try and return it for another WASR. Again, Do not send it to century unless it is your last resort.
And for anyone buying a firearm....Do your research first before buying. It can save you time and a serious headach. Not to mention money.:thumb:
Century is known for taking single stack WASR's and wharrler out the mag well to take double stack magazines. This isn't an uncommon problem with the WASR's.
Since these hit the market they have been giving the AK a bad name. If you cannot get it to function. I would take it back where you bought it and tell them they sold you a broken gun. Do not send it to century. You will most likely never see it or your money again.
If you must have a WASR. Spend to take it to a smith if you are not willing or know how to fix the issue.
Most likely it is a magazine issue.
Things to check:
(first make sure the gun is not loaded or has a magazine that is loaded in the firearm. Visually inspect the chamber and feel inside the chamber to make sure the firearm is unloaded. always point the firearm in a safe direction. Remember to treat every firearm as if were loaded even if you know it is not.)
Does the magazine wobble to the left and right when it is in the gun?
Is the magazine you are using clean and free of dirt or grime?
Is the rifle clean? Did you clean it before you took it out to shoot?
Does the bolt and carrier fully close? or lock into place when you send it forward?
Look at the magazine well. Does it look off center?
Are there any obstruction inside the firearm?
If the magazine you are using does not fit tightly or close to tightly inside the magazine well. Use another magazine and see if you get the same issue. Try to use another maker of magazines. Some types may not run in the firearm. Or it is poorly fitted for that firearm.
If nothing changes try and return it for another WASR. Again, Do not send it to century unless it is your last resort.
And for anyone buying a firearm....Do your research first before buying. It can save you time and a serious headach. Not to mention money.:thumb:
How is century arms still in business? I know they are cheap but if they sell that many poorly made, sometimes dangerous firearms?
We need more info on the problem. How many clips have you tried? They certainly shouldn't wobble around. My friend has an Izmash AK and it can be picky about the clips used in it. More of a mag fit problem than anything. Looked like the thing was painted with a can of spray paint, not the most impressive AK I have seen.
We need more info on the problem. How many clips have you tried? They certainly shouldn't wobble around. My friend has an Izmash AK and it can be picky about the clips used in it. More of a mag fit problem than anything. Looked like the thing was painted with a can of spray paint, not the most impressive AK I have seen.
I was borrowing a brand new Century AK from a guy at work. I gave it a deep clean. He hadn't shot it yet mind you. I tried to shoot it, and it wouldnt fire. Took it apart to look at it, and it still wouldnt fire. It would not put a round into battery even if you tried to help it a little. Fast forward to what I learned. The piston would not go into battery with a round because the rear sight block was so badly canted that it would scrape on the left side. When I researched it this is very common. Not as bad as the one I borrowed, but still common. I would look to see if your rear sight base is canted. If it is it is time to go back to the manufacturer. Some people fixed it with a BFH, but I can't recommend that one.
I had two of them that would not work properly. Both of them had a problem with the bolt not wanting to go all the way forward with a round in, or it wouldn't pick up a new round. Almost every 3-5 rounds I was having to perform immediate action on it. After finally getting 300rds through it, it finally started acting fine. What it was was the bolt, and the fitting with the receiver. I noticed every time I cleaned the rifle their were shavings of metal and I realized the bolt edge that locks into the left side was shaving itself so make it work. That is how poor the quality control is with the WASR.
I'll never buy one again. Get an SGL21, it's a brand new AK Izhmash!
I'll never buy one again. Get an SGL21, it's a brand new AK Izhmash!
There 1000 that work fine for ever 1 that has a problem. The rear sight is on a turnion. It can't be crooked. The gas tube can and that probably what was meant.
Romanian AKMs are brand new just converted to double stack by someone else. Both my Romanians are Romanian inside and out. Their old. Their century. My new one is Romanian with US parts- it sucks!
Most of the SARs and WSARs are fairly good guns. The Tantels had a few issues. And so did some others. I would love to find someone with a POS AK they wanted to get read of. I think I can fix anything wrong with one in about two hours or two new parts.
You can pick up a century for under $500 now maybe $400 Even. Spend $600 on an AR and that will be the POS. You'll never be able to fix.
One happy customer might tell 5 people but a unhappy one will tell everyone, over and over.
Romanian AKMs are brand new just converted to double stack by someone else. Both my Romanians are Romanian inside and out. Their old. Their century. My new one is Romanian with US parts- it sucks!
Most of the SARs and WSARs are fairly good guns. The Tantels had a few issues. And so did some others. I would love to find someone with a POS AK they wanted to get read of. I think I can fix anything wrong with one in about two hours or two new parts.
You can pick up a century for under $500 now maybe $400 Even. Spend $600 on an AR and that will be the POS. You'll never be able to fix.
One happy customer might tell 5 people but a unhappy one will tell everyone, over and over.
Romania is a very poor country with zero QC and they pump out the WASR as fast as they can at a very low price.
In turn they are sold here in this country at a very low price with Low cost cheap sub standard FCG etc.
I feel the others list a very good check list that doesnt need much else to be said.
Would just reinforce detail cleaning for one.
Do you have a dremel?
You can use the sanding wheels,got them at lowes,brown and black look kinda like scotchbrite pads.
If not, emery cloth.
You want to smooth everything out.
The rails number one.
http://www.novarata.net/Linx310/fcg.shtml
This is a link on how to do the FCG.(Though I do a little more aggressive job and more shine on parts that touch with jewlers paste and get rid of all sharp edges,alot less trigger pull.)
Above link has some good info on other things as well.
Another is to remove the gas tube and use some spray cleaner like barrel scrubber with the little plastic tip swizzle stick thing going to the little gas hole and spray it out to be sure its clean and nothing is stuck in there.
Also sometimes the romanians run low on parts and have been known to pull parts out of the worn out and defective pile so believe it or not,it could be something as simple as a recoil spring...8 dollar part and worth it to change....want to know how I know?
Been there with a SAR-1 2002 model I got at a gunshow for a very good deal,well to the point it wouldnt feed and rounds would get stuck etc,I had an extra recoil spring and after I did the above I list I swap out the recoil spring and runs like a top.
Dont get down on your rifle...The romanian AK's are the most underrated AK out there.
All it needs is some fine tuning,ammo and mags.
Please report back your progress.
In turn they are sold here in this country at a very low price with Low cost cheap sub standard FCG etc.
I feel the others list a very good check list that doesnt need much else to be said.
Would just reinforce detail cleaning for one.
Do you have a dremel?
You can use the sanding wheels,got them at lowes,brown and black look kinda like scotchbrite pads.
If not, emery cloth.
You want to smooth everything out.
The rails number one.
http://www.novarata.net/Linx310/fcg.shtml
This is a link on how to do the FCG.(Though I do a little more aggressive job and more shine on parts that touch with jewlers paste and get rid of all sharp edges,alot less trigger pull.)
Above link has some good info on other things as well.
Another is to remove the gas tube and use some spray cleaner like barrel scrubber with the little plastic tip swizzle stick thing going to the little gas hole and spray it out to be sure its clean and nothing is stuck in there.
Also sometimes the romanians run low on parts and have been known to pull parts out of the worn out and defective pile so believe it or not,it could be something as simple as a recoil spring...8 dollar part and worth it to change....want to know how I know?
Been there with a SAR-1 2002 model I got at a gunshow for a very good deal,well to the point it wouldnt feed and rounds would get stuck etc,I had an extra recoil spring and after I did the above I list I swap out the recoil spring and runs like a top.
Dont get down on your rifle...The romanian AK's are the most underrated AK out there.
All it needs is some fine tuning,ammo and mags.
Please report back your progress.
I have a WASR with about 4,000 rounds through it and only 1 FTE using the cheapest, crappiest ammo I could find.
First, get all the cosmoline out of it. Strip it (and the mags) and soak the hell out of it in heavy duty degreaser from the hardware store (cheaper than blowing through 4 cans of Break-Free). Blow out all the nooks and crannies with compressed air, wipe down and reassy.
Second, function check it. Without a mag, cycle the action about 50-100 times. Check for any binding or unusual action. Pop it open and look for metal shavings or wear spots. If anything seems out of place, it may just need some Dremel TLC in a few high spots.
Third, check the mags. Mine came from the factory with a dented mag, so I couldn't get past 5 rounds without it failing. After stripping it and pressing out the dent from the inside (check it with calipers though), it worked perfectly.
Fourth, dry run with a mag. Insert and empty mag and cycle the action about 30-50 times. Check for any dragging or excessive movement. Eject the mag and look at the feed lips. Any wear on it may need a light buffing. Do the same for all the mags you have.
Fifth, cycle the mags without firing. IN A SAFE PLACE, insert a loaded mag (or use snap caps if you happen to have 30 of them laying around) and cycle the action 30 times. DO NOT PULL THE TRIGGER! Check all the above mentioned areas as well as the individual rounds. You should see some light striations on the casing, but any gouges or dents are a bad sign.
If it passed all that (takes about 2 hours for the degreasing, 30 minutes for the rest), it should fire without a hitch. I've had mine at the range when others have had a few problems, wondering why mine worked so well. We ran through those steps together and there wasn't one we couldn't readily fix or ID the problem with.
These things are a workhorse that beg to be beaten. My only suggestion is to test and inspect it before putting rounds down range. No sense riding a horse in to battle if it only has 3 legs.
On a side note, TAPCO mags are really hit or miss. I'm not a fan of the plastic feed lips and it seems that more and more plastic gets chewed off every couple of times they're loaded and SEEM to contribute to failures. Spend a few extra bucks and get metal mags. Even the worst surplus mag was able to be made near-perfect with a little time and TLC. (I have a few TAPCO's if you want to trade though
)
If you don't take care of your gear, don't expect it to take care of you.
First, get all the cosmoline out of it. Strip it (and the mags) and soak the hell out of it in heavy duty degreaser from the hardware store (cheaper than blowing through 4 cans of Break-Free). Blow out all the nooks and crannies with compressed air, wipe down and reassy.
Second, function check it. Without a mag, cycle the action about 50-100 times. Check for any binding or unusual action. Pop it open and look for metal shavings or wear spots. If anything seems out of place, it may just need some Dremel TLC in a few high spots.
Third, check the mags. Mine came from the factory with a dented mag, so I couldn't get past 5 rounds without it failing. After stripping it and pressing out the dent from the inside (check it with calipers though), it worked perfectly.
Fourth, dry run with a mag. Insert and empty mag and cycle the action about 30-50 times. Check for any dragging or excessive movement. Eject the mag and look at the feed lips. Any wear on it may need a light buffing. Do the same for all the mags you have.
Fifth, cycle the mags without firing. IN A SAFE PLACE, insert a loaded mag (or use snap caps if you happen to have 30 of them laying around) and cycle the action 30 times. DO NOT PULL THE TRIGGER! Check all the above mentioned areas as well as the individual rounds. You should see some light striations on the casing, but any gouges or dents are a bad sign.
If it passed all that (takes about 2 hours for the degreasing, 30 minutes for the rest), it should fire without a hitch. I've had mine at the range when others have had a few problems, wondering why mine worked so well. We ran through those steps together and there wasn't one we couldn't readily fix or ID the problem with.
These things are a workhorse that beg to be beaten. My only suggestion is to test and inspect it before putting rounds down range. No sense riding a horse in to battle if it only has 3 legs.
On a side note, TAPCO mags are really hit or miss. I'm not a fan of the plastic feed lips and it seems that more and more plastic gets chewed off every couple of times they're loaded and SEEM to contribute to failures. Spend a few extra bucks and get metal mags. Even the worst surplus mag was able to be made near-perfect with a little time and TLC. (I have a few TAPCO's if you want to trade though
)If you don't take care of your gear, don't expect it to take care of you.
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