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Carry tiers anyone?

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#1 ·
As an avid consumer of survival info in whatever form I can get it I watch quite a few vids on yt about survival. One that impacted me a lot was one where the presenter talked about carry tiers.

I wish I could find the video again but I've searched a few times and haven't been able to.

The philosophy of carry tiers made a lot of sense to me and for the last few years I've organized my own kit using it.

Tier 1 = the items I carry on my person, the clothes I'm wearing and what's in my pockets, on my belt, etc. Arguably the most important things you carry are Tier 1, this is the tier you do not shed (and this is the important idea of the whole system).

Tier 2 = items you carry apart from your clothes. This might be in a vest, a fanny pack, a sling bag, a chest pack, etc. The items here are backups and compliments to Tier 1. Maybe in Tier 1 you have a small fire kit consisting of a micro ferro rod and striker set and in Tier 2 you have a more robust kit with Quik Fire tinder, a bigger rod, some fat wood, etc. Maybe (you should) in Tier 1 you have a knife and in Tier 2 you have a bigger knife and a whet stone. You will likely not have a sleeping bag or pillow in Tier 2 because of space constraints. Again it's to compliment, enhance and back-up things in Tier 1 but you can shed it if needed and it's not the end.

Tier 3 = items you carry in a larger bag. Like Tier 2, Tier 3 is all about enhancing, complimenting and backing up the other tiers. Tier 3 is likely where your sleep system is, your very robust first aid/trauma kit, your cook system, food and water. The heavy, bulky items are in Tier 3 because they won't fit in Tier 2 or 1. Maybe they are more "luxury" items. And, as you have probably already surmised, Tier 3 is the 1st to be shed if needed. What's not in Tier 3 is your sole supply of medicine. Maybe you have back-ups to the meds you have in Tier 1 and 2. Your only cutting tool or way to make fire is not in Tier 3, only back-ups, compliments and enhancements to your existing Tier 1 and 2 stuff.

My current system for wilderness or bug out uses the above. My day to day uses 2 levels, my EDC and my bag. The difference should be obvious, if I have to get from work to home, by foot I can do that (in about 4-5 hours). I don't have a cook system or sleep system in my urban tiers.

Anyone else use this philosophy?
 
#4 ·
it might be good to break that down into even more groupings like restricted sites and non restricted sites... as some places don't allow things you would otherwise take like airports, courthouses etc..

people hiking long distance will have their expedition pack for campsite to campsite travel then day pack kit for areas from a fixed location....

I have a smersh type front pack that is more day packy, and a little tote that attaches to it (it is really just a sustenance pack etc... I like the front pack as the stuff is easily accessible on the go.

my day pack was stolen (US medic bag) a few years back and I have yet to replace it.


More or less your living items can be kept in the expedition bag, while I tend to have food and hydration in the daypack setup.

its good to have a system of organization... the big thing on the move is the ability to access things you use while on the move, including easy access for first aid kit. so camp tools can be kept in the expedition pack while hiking tools can be kept in the daypack/smersh etc...

I'm still not serious prepper etc.. but you don't really need a lot to live, in climate just good clothing... a solid sleep system, and food and water.. after that you are justs adding to everything.

it gets to survivalism when you need to start procure a large number of calories in nature, that is when you need things like knives, projectile weapons, firearms, traps, fishing kits etc. in good season you might get lucky with edible wild foods as there are a lot of them... but again prepping and surivalism are a little different imo.. preppers are better suited to urban environments - and usually need kit based upon specific scenarios with some cross over, while survivalists tend to need more know how and essential kit, and arn't very well suited to most doomsday type scenarios.. however to optimally survive having both skill sets and equipment sets are good. imo preppers rely more on prepositioning, while survivalists have advanced skill sets for the area they intend to operate within. preppers tend to rely more on prepositioning for bug ins or bug out locations.. they tend to emphasize not being in bug out mode for very long, ideally as short as possible from bug in to a bug out location ideally through a bug out vehicle and each of these points have prepositioned supplies and tools.

a prepper is going to have a kit a survivalist will not, and a survivalist will have kit a prepper won't know how to use properly.
 
#9 ·
Same approach we used in the land of sand and here in Africa.

tier/Line 1 = gun belt with pistol, blowout kit, pistol mags maybe a rifle mag, knife either fixed blade or folder.

Tier/Line 2 = standard fighting gear. body armor, most of my rifle mags, water, bigger blowout kit, compass, maybe a helmet, NVGs, special docs.

Tier/Line 3 = ruck, with sustainment gear. sleeping bag or poncho liner, food, extra water, extra ammo, special equip, tent, extra clothes, etc.


Take all the above from a high threat environment and modify to your survival scenario as needed.
 
#11 ·
Line gear really helps. If I remember the vid correctly, the guy was a vet, I don't recall him using the term "line gear" but now that I have the proper term for it I find it much easier to find more info on it.

My system is very modular as well and based on modules/packages/kits that have their places in their tiers/line and as the original idea, tier 1 has the basics, each consecutive tier builds on the base.

Since you have given me the common nomenclature of this system I've been able to do some more research.

As mentioned above.
Line 1 is your clothes and basic survival gear, fire, cutting, navigation, signaling, food.
Line 2 is your battle gear, LBE/V, mag pouches/mags, IFAK, more navigation.
Line 3 is your ruck/backpack with additional items to resupply Line 2 and 1.

Obviously that is suited to combat missions where as my above description is more suited to civi stuff.