Google critical incident stress debriefing. Very widely used in the fire service, military and law enforcement. The techniques are well established and successful intervention can be done with trusted peers who have been trained, but you can stay off the radar.

Find my post "evil walks among us" and dealing with ASPDs in the Why We Kill thread. Sometimes you need to let go of the drowning man to save yourself. That also includes having the will to change careers to get out of a hostile and dangerous environment.

 

Back when I worked for a living, we referred people the county mental health dept often. In fact the county mental health supervisor worked with us. Check them out. We also had a PHD who specialized in military personnel. He was a retired col. and worked will with the vets. My suggestion is to stop by the county mental health and use them as a reference for someone who specializes in you personal needs. Make sure you find someone with credentials and not sidewalk minister or whatever

 

A good psych doc can help you push through the pain revealing the root cause. They can also confirm that perhaps you have a chemical imbalance and need medication or other types of therapy to correct it.
This can take months or years.

While its true they need to stop you from hurting yourself or others or report murders etc they realize that you having these thoughts are normal and caused by trama. Ask them what their reporting policy is.

Exercise is the medicine for mental health.

I told my doctor I was feeling depressed and he wrote a psych med based off that one statement with no questions asked.
As he was typing up the script he told me that exercise was 100% better.
I didnt take the meds.
Exercise and giving myself time to heal has helped.

PM me if you want to talk.

 

Exercise and giving myself time to heal has helped.

PM me if you want to talk.

Thank you.
For both of those statements.

I agree, exercise does wonders for the mind and has helped me through several emotional blows.

Oddly enough even though its the best thing for a hurting heart it's the first thing you don't feel like doing when you need it most. I have to force myself but never regret it.

 

Putting myself in that system just seems like willingly setting myself up to lose my freedoms. And yet, I still need help.

I can relate. When I reached out recently to see about help I got asked about guns so many times I really regretted reaching out at all. And after all of that the earliest appointments are set out months away. Which is understandable since this year has really put the screws to a lot of people.

 

Sorry you went through that, what a criminal waste of your effort to seek help. This is part of my concern.

Every question they ask I'll be running the scenarios in my head to figure out if an honest answer is going to come back to bite me in the butt later.
And if I have to lie to them I don't see how they can help.

It's not even like I can tell the therapist that I don't trust therapists; I'm at least not so mentally ill that I fail to hear how paranoid that sounds.

 

The system as it is now established (and from around 1994, this was a Clinton era thing) has been weaponized to root out undesirables.
This is a real shame and sham.

Those who genuinely need the help realize early on that anything they say can be used against them.
This is why I too have avoided talking anything mental with anyone because of the possibilities of it being used as a weapon rather than help.

Support groups are laughed at int he RWE community and for good reason.
But support groups don't necessarily need to be fully "accredited" or even advertised for that matter.

until the day comes where the left gives up its power grabbing, this will continue.

 

Everything I have learned about decline of this country has led me to believe that all our major institutions have been compromised and overrun with globalist, woke, critical race theory believing traitors.

No industry is exempt; From preschool teachers to college professors, big tech, social media, health, pediatrics and yes even mental health therapy are all under the influence or control of my ideological enemies.

But I need help. I have issues I need to talk to someone about which I can't discuss (in a useful or productive way) with my mate or immediate family.

Another thing I'm concerned about is what going to therapy will do to me socially/legally going forward. I'm sure we all know there are some things that if you tell your therapist they'll have to flag you as a danger to yourself and others which could prevent you from passing a background check or getting security clearance later one.
I'm also pretty sure that some of my beliefs, (which many of you share) will come to be viewed as 'conspiracy theories' and then soon be relabeled as 'harmful delusions'.

For example I can say I think Trump was the true winner in 2020, and that doesn't sound dangerous or harmful right now.
But as easily as the easily as transgender disorder was removed from the DSM mental health manual for healthcare workers for political/social reasons rather than science, so too could a fairly common conservative value/belief be added to it and suddenly you're losing your security clearance and being put on meds because you once told your therapist that Planned Parenthood sells aborted baby parts.

Putting myself in that system just seems like willingly setting myself up to lose my freedoms. And yet, I still need help.

Long story short I'm stuck on the question of whether to attempt a therapist or not. Surely I'm not the only member of this board who is concerned with their mental health but doesn't trust the mental health industry. I'm sure plenty of you would rely on your pastor for such things but that's not an option for me.

Does anyone have any experience in this matter?
Did you end up with a lefty therapist?
Where they able to understand your issues and deal with them in a way you could believe in?
Was it genuinely helpful?
How did you get past your distrust or did it end up not mattering?

Our family sought the professional advice of a Chiropractor and natural medicine and have never looked back. We're all healthier and are living life to its fullest. Your mileage may vary.

 

Funny, I was going to suggest the entire "mental health/pshrink" industry was as big a scam as "chiropractic". A huge growth area for the demtards. Driven by the availability of unaccountable insurance $ and an activist left political agenda (who is a more reliable demtard voter base than college indoctrinated and overpaid nanny types (paid with gov't or insurance $)). You might note that EVERY occasion for turmoil the 1st thing the dems discussed is a huge need for counseling/mental _ . And there is ALWAYS a shortage of pshrink types which requires additional funding.

Go see a head shrinker with your issues and you can reasonably predict you will be branded/outed as a nonconformist if you have opinions the do not align with the current OR FUTURE orthodoxies of the left. For proof see the chain of events around the world with similar changes in govt' towards the left/socialism/commie/marxism. The OP has reasonable concerns.

 

Choose a therapist you think will do the most good. Make an appointment with a fake name. Pay cash. Everyone wins.

 

Luckily our Chiropractor happened to be family...sorry, didn't mention that.

 

try talking to your Animals (seriously)

As long as they don't talk back you're fine.

 

try talking to your Animals (seriously)

As long as they don't talk back you're fine.

Mine talk back regardless.

Just not in english.

 

Whew. That's a tough one. I wouldn't trust the counseling/therapy industry, either. In my religion, priests and deacons and nuns can act as spiritual advisors. Spiritual advising often includes "regular" counseling or therapy. Sometimes the advisor additionally has an LCSW or other degree/license. For example, one of the deacons at my church is a retired psychologist. I think if I needed to talk to someone, he'd be the first phone call I'd make.

If you're religious, is there someone in your religious community who might be able to help you?

 

I ask this with much respect to you. Where do these ideological enemies that you mentioned, live?

 

Read my first post in this thread.

Evil walks among us. Read the Hare book.

Easier for the nonprofessional to grasp than Samenow.

Much easier than conducting the custodial interviews with serial murderers in person and the nightmares won't stay with you.

 

Think outside the box. Protect your anonymity, at least initially. Buy a burner phone with cash. Talk with professionals. Ask lots of questions. Be frank. Understand there are perhaps millions of us who rightly distrust the establishment, the system, the status quo. I admire your strength in reaching out. You are a strong woman. Even now, you are helping others.

 

My experience.

Difficult early childhood so no big surprise when I started hallucinating, right? Except "We don't talk about that" and I learned very early on talking about my experiences were scaring people. So I stopped.

We moved cross country when I was 10, no surprise I got depressed. Plus I had a "bad mommy". "Bad Mommy" got blamed when I became suicidal after a workplace shooting at my Dad's office, etc. Then I began getting manic but no one saw it.

Years of therapy and thousands of antidepressants later I still felt terrible. So I went the natural route for about 10 years and got even worse. Got therapy again couldn't see the manias or depressions because I had a "bad husband" by this point and it was all the fault of him and my 'Bad mommy".

Finally went for help, conventional, for psychotic depression and told the doctor EVERYTHING scared the crap out of her. She wanted me in the hospital; they wouldn't take me because I didn't have insurance. But they did send me to the ER and a very nice mental health tech diagnosed me bipolar. Took some working to find a doctor who would take me without insurance but I did and then he got me medication. I have been fine ever since. It wasn't a bad husband or a bad mommy, it was a chemical imbalance.

The fact that I am handling the loss of my husband and my job just in one month says a lot I think.

Yes, I am labeled now.

Yes, I was assaulted and the attacker got off because he said I was bipolar and "made it all up". I learned my lesson about disclosing in person.

I have paid a price but doing much better now.

 

Let us not derail the question from the op. I have no questions.

 

I would suggest that you read up on Doctor Patient confidentiality laws. I believe that therapist who are mental health professionals, are bound by those same laws. [edited to add] It would be a good idea to get references from reviews or from some one you trust if possible.

 

My moms shrink testified about what she said during sessions, OP has good cause. Mom wasn't a criminal.
I've been thinking about talking with someone but....**** Cheney hears all.

 

The only thing in this life that you can trust is gravity. The truth is subjective. Sure there is truth, but even when you have 3 eye witnesses, you will have 3 different versions, 3 different stories and 3 different realities all claiming that they are the one to believe. Trust in yourself, always move forward with good intentions. I wouldn't trust the therapists of today to divulge my deepest concerns about the state of affairs as I see them... Not a chance.. I would constantly be questioning their intentions. Does that make me paranoid? Perhaps but they sure as hell aren't telling me THEIR deepest and darkest secrets/concerns now are they? I agree with what others have said, reading is fundamental.

 

There are any number of professionals that you can confide. Your level of need and your available resources will dictate whom you should see. The following is a listing of the types of providers that you are likely to seek:

Types of Mental Health Professionals | NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness

Mental health professionals all have different roles. Understanding who can prescribe and monitor medication and provide therapy and counseling can offer can help you decide which is right for you.

www.nami.org

Please also keep in mind that many members of the clergy are trained to provide counseling, but be sure to check their credentials for their ability to do so. Unfortunately, some members of the clergy will treat you in keeping with dogma, rather than accepted ethical clinical criteria. Furthermore, there is nothing to state that the clergy member has to be your pastor either.

If you choose to pursue a relationship, keep in mind that anything you confide to another, is also shared with your health insurance carrier...if you choose to utilize health insurance that is. If you are eligible for some type of social assistance or charity, your matter may be shared with them as well. As such, be careful with the social assistance/charity providers, for the same reasons as stated above with religious treatment.

To be safe, it probably is safest to not utilize a third party provider for treatment. Then the only ones that know of your issues, are just you and your mental health professional.

Most mental health professionals will tell you up front that they won't share your conversations with anyone directly outside of the patient-provider relationship, except if you indicate that you wish to hurt yourself or someone else; or engage in a behavior that places you or another at high risk.

If you have any further questions about such, please let me know.

 

Most mental health professionals will tell you up front that they won't share your conversations with anyone directly outside of the patient-provider relationship, except if you indicate that you wish to hurt yourself or someone else; or engage in a behavior that places you or another at high risk.

I'm sorry, but in today's world, how can anyone believe this i s really true? The cancer of woke is everywhere.

 

It is the industry, especially the insurance industry, that feels like it could be a conduit for misuse.

I am not an expert, just my limited observations.

 

Everything I have learned about decline of this country has led me to believe that all our major institutions have been compromised and overrun with globalist, woke, critical race theory believing traitors.

No industry is exempt; From preschool teachers to college professors, big tech, social media, health, pediatrics and yes even mental health therapy are all under the influence or control of my ideological enemies.

But I need help. I have issues I need to talk to someone about which I can't discuss (in a useful or productive way) with my mate or immediate family.

Another thing I'm concerned about is what going to therapy will do to me socially/legally going forward. I'm sure we all know there are some things that if you tell your therapist they'll have to flag you as a danger to yourself and others which could prevent you from passing a background check or getting security clearance later one.
I'm also pretty sure that some of my beliefs, (which many of you share) will come to be viewed as 'conspiracy theories' and then soon be relabeled as 'harmful delusions'.

For example I can say I think Trump was the true winner in 2020, and that doesn't sound dangerous or harmful right now.
But as easily as the easily as transgender disorder was removed from the DSM mental health manual for healthcare workers for political/social reasons rather than science, so too could a fairly common conservative value/belief be added to it and suddenly you're losing your security clearance and being put on meds because you once told your therapist that Planned Parenthood sells aborted baby parts.

Putting myself in that system just seems like willingly setting myself up to lose my freedoms. And yet, I still need help.

Long story short I'm stuck on the question of whether to attempt a therapist or not. Surely I'm not the only member of this board who is concerned with their mental health but doesn't trust the mental health industry. I'm sure plenty of you would rely on your pastor for such things but that's not an option for me.

Does anyone have any experience in this matter?
Did you end up with a lefty therapist?
Where they able to understand your issues and deal with them in a way you could believe in?
Was it genuinely helpful?
How did you get past your distrust or did it end up not mattering?

I have had multiple mental health professionals. I fired about half of them. The ones I kept did me a lot of good. I empathize with your concern about privacy. Even if they don't rat you out, if you use insurance with them, it is on record. So it could be a double-edged sword.

I have some suggestions I've used, some have mentioned them, some you may not react well to, but I am just telling you what my experience has been:

• Exercise
• Getting enough quality sleep (a lot of people don't - a good sleep doc can work wonders)
• Meditation (really! - try different kinds until you find one you like and then stick with it)
• (This is perhaps controversial) Find a priest or minister to talk to, even if you are not religious. A good one will not try to convert you. The good ones are all trained in counseling. Here's the reasons: They are free and their confidentiality restrictions are unbreakable. There is no court in the land who can get a priest or minister to rat you out. Of course, if you do get religion, generally religious people are happier. But that's optional.
• Having a pet, especially a dog, IMHO.
• Make new friends, spend time with them.
• Get involved in something your feel is important, just to you. A charity, a cause, some volunteerism.
• Turn off the MSM and social media (yeah, I know this site is technically social media). Stuff like FB and Twitter really mess people up and they don't realize it. It is an unhealthy addiction.
• Take time off regularly if you can. Even if you don't want to. Maybe especially if you don't want to.
• Learn to improve your self-talk. Get the negative stuff out of your head. There are some good books on it. I can't think of a title right off.
• If you have a high level clearance, I've been there, done that. There is just some stuff you have to carry around. But if you can get everything else in your life good, you can handle it. A lot of what the public doesn't know sucks. But someone has to know it.

That's all I got.

 

Chances are you're far from the most right leaning patient any potential therapist would have. And it's all in the presentation.

You dont "think Trump was the rightful winner of the 2020 election". Instead "the accusations and inconsistencies of the 2016 and 2020 elections have shaken your faith in our democratic processes".

You aren't a prepper convinced that our society is going to implode in an orgy of madness, death, and corruption. You're just familiar with the fact that civilizations periodically collapse due to various reasons and you know that it's a possibility for our civilization as well. Alternatively, you find prepping to be a calming way to process your anxiety. Or something. But don't call it prepping, call it hiking and outdoor skills or something.

You can always refuse to talk about things too.

 

You can always refuse to talk about things too.

Oh, I do. Everything.

 

I've been kinda there before....I think maybe a lot of us have...I have krappy advice like everyone...Mine is just wait....It will change..really, it always does...if you cannot talk to someone, I get it, I never could..just wait..it will be different shortly

Take it easy, be safe, please, you're alright

 

I hope you're right, but as with every individual, the needs are different.

She may or may not require professional assistance. Though she did ask for information with respect to the same, and that is what should be given, and not just a mere opinion if she should or should not pursue such.

 

Great thread, OP.

And a great post by @jmf552 . Pretty much all covered there.

Go see a priest/minister/rabbi/religious dude of some sort. Doesn't matter which type, they are all there for anyone. They don't care about whether you are religious, what you are, where you've been, what you've done. They won't even check your credit score! Give a false name if you want, "Uncle Bob" is my favorite!
Head on in and vent. Rant, even. Tell them you think must be adopted because there is no way you could be related to the idiots in your family, your hubby/wife/kids are giving you the ****s, that your neighbors play their music loud til 3am, the people you work with are morons, your dog keeps trying to hump people's legs, your cat won't stop crapping in the kitchen sink, some a-hole in a Toyota cut you off, etc. all of it. That is just some examples.
Tell them all stuff that is affecting you. You will feel a whole lot better once it is out.
Walk out then if you want, or listen to what they suggest. Either way works.

Totally agree with the exercise bit. Go for a walk every day. A hundred feet will do, more if you want, but do it every day. It isn't a race so time and distance don't matter. It just gets your body moving like it should, most of us spend too much time sitting down. Or swim or cycle or run, whatever you like doing, but every day.

Help others. This has an amazing effect for most people. Help out at the local charity shop one day a week, fortnight or month. Serve customers or help them sort through the donations. Or volunteer somewhere. Whatever you would like doing. This takes your mind of you and gets you thinking about others.

Most importantly, change your thinking. Get the negative stuff out of there. The only way to do this is replace it with positive thoughts. Get one of the self-improvement books and read 10 pages every day. Any book will do, they are all good. Do any actions they suggest. If they say write down 5 things on a bit of paper, then get a bit of paper and write 5 things down. Not 4, 5. Don't make a list of 5 things in your head, it isn't the same. Read another 10 pages every day.
Play music you like, stuff that gets you tapping your foot or dancing. Enjoy it.
Read books about other people. Especially ones who have had the same issues as you. They got through it. So will you.

My favorite: play with dogs or young kids. They are innocent, they don't have an agenda. Very refreshing.
Dogs have one solution for everything, 'play with me'. This fixes everything according to them! Unless you want to feed them, they also quite like this. "Ain't nothing that can't be made better by patting me" said every dog ever!
Young kids ask honest questions. This is very different to talking to adults. It makes a nice change and gets you thinking differently.

And definitely turn of the TV. It really is all garbage.

Any issues can be fixed. The ancient Greeks knew this stuff, it isn't new. I'm pretty sure you can read Confucius and it will say "If unhappy, go for a walk, pat the dog and stay away from idiots". Same with Hindu and Buddhist stuff.
I got involved with this stuff to help set and achieve goals better. It works.
Is it 'new-age hippy bull****'? Yes, but, (chokes this out) it does work.

 

Everything I have learned about decline of this country has led me to believe that all our major institutions have been compromised and overrun with globalist, woke, critical race theory believing traitors.

No industry is exempt; From preschool teachers to college professors, big tech, social media, health, pediatrics and yes even mental health therapy are all under the influence or control of my ideological enemies.

But I need help. I have issues I need to talk to someone about which I can't discuss (in a useful or productive way) with my mate or immediate family.

Another thing I'm concerned about is what going to therapy will do to me socially/legally going forward. I'm sure we all know there are some things that if you tell your therapist they'll have to flag you as a danger to yourself and others which could prevent you from passing a background check or getting security clearance later one.
I'm also pretty sure that some of my beliefs, (which many of you share) will come to be viewed as 'conspiracy theories' and then soon be relabeled as 'harmful delusions'.

For example I can say I think Trump was the true winner in 2020, and that doesn't sound dangerous or harmful right now.
But as easily as the easily as transgender disorder was removed from the DSM mental health manual for healthcare workers for political/social reasons rather than science, so too could a fairly common conservative value/belief be added to it and suddenly you're losing your security clearance and being put on meds because you once told your therapist that Planned Parenthood sells aborted baby parts.

Putting myself in that system just seems like willingly setting myself up to lose my freedoms. And yet, I still need help.

Long story short I'm stuck on the question of whether to attempt a therapist or not. Surely I'm not the only member of this board who is concerned with their mental health but doesn't trust the mental health industry. I'm sure plenty of you would rely on your pastor for such things but that's not an option for me.

Does anyone have any experience in this matter?
Did you end up with a lefty therapist?
Where they able to understand your issues and deal with them in a way you could believe in?
Was it genuinely helpful?
How did you get past your distrust or did it end up not mattering?

Have to say I'm right there with You! .... And I absolutely do not trust the mental or medical health profession when it comes to my thoughts, ideals, beliefs etc. at some point being held against me or being used to strip away my individual rights. And we are nearly at the point where simply expressing the view I just stated might be enough to label you a threat to yourself or others by a health care professional who's been drinking the leftist Kool Aid.

As for where to go for help? That's Tough.... If you are involved in organized religion often you can get help / support from Elders or support networks there that would be Outside of any network that would likely report you or perhaps Close Friends / Relatives. But I'm sure you have already thought about those avenues.

I've been trying to hack my own mind for years, which personally I believe is something everyone should do... Periodic Critical Self Checks can be some of the best validation we have for being OK with ourselves, and I can say that there have been times when those self checks have uncovered flaws in thinking or beliefs because things change and new information gets accumulated, and we all have a tendency to build our beliefs over years like a brick wall where it's easy to be so focused on laying the current course of bricks and future layers and forget to keep an eye on the foundation for any cracks or erosion.

For me a few of the things that have helped me the most when I've had no place to turn have been:
1. Alone Time in Nature. (get away from the energy of others and all the static, both good and bad).
2. Unplug! Back away from the News, Social Networks, even forums like this for a while... It's hard to have Clarity when constantly being bombarded with BS.
3. Pray for Clarity / Direction. Not sure what your Spiritual beliefs are, but one thing I have found is that when I am in need Praying for Clarity and Direction can help. I won't ever pray for "Things" or for Direct help for myself, but I will ask for guidance and often get answers that will appear through Observation that relate (whole topic there by itself).

One other thing that I try to remember is that there is always a battle going on between light and dark, and both can get inside our head and plant thoughts / ideas, but it's up to us to determine if the things that sometimes haunt us are of our own making or from darkness trying to dim our light... It's easy to get caught up and worried about taking care of the physical world, but we also have to feed ourselves spiritually as well in whatever way works for the individual. (whole other topic there too!)

 

Everything I have learned about decline of this country has led me to believe that all our major institutions have been compromised and overrun with globalist, woke, critical race theory believing traitors.

No industry is exempt; From preschool teachers to college professors, big tech, social media, health, pediatrics and yes even mental health therapy are all under the influence or control of my ideological enemies.

But I need help. I have issues I need to talk to someone about which I can't discuss (in a useful or productive way) with my mate or immediate family.

Another thing I'm concerned about is what going to therapy will do to me socially/legally going forward. I'm sure we all know there are some things that if you tell your therapist they'll have to flag you as a danger to yourself and others which could prevent you from passing a background check or getting security clearance later one.
I'm also pretty sure that some of my beliefs, (which many of you share) will come to be viewed as 'conspiracy theories' and then soon be relabeled as 'harmful delusions'.

For example I can say I think Trump was the true winner in 2020, and that doesn't sound dangerous or harmful right now.
But as easily as the easily as transgender disorder was removed from the DSM mental health manual for healthcare workers for political/social reasons rather than science, so too could a fairly common conservative value/belief be added to it and suddenly you're losing your security clearance and being put on meds because you once told your therapist that Planned Parenthood sells aborted baby parts.

Putting myself in that system just seems like willingly setting myself up to lose my freedoms. And yet, I still need help.

Long story short I'm stuck on the question of whether to attempt a therapist or not. Surely I'm not the only member of this board who is concerned with their mental health but doesn't trust the mental health industry. I'm sure plenty of you would rely on your pastor for such things but that's not an option for me.

Does anyone have any experience in this matter?
Did you end up with a lefty therapist?
Where they able to understand your issues and deal with them in a way you could believe in?
Was it genuinely helpful?
How did you get past your distrust or did it end up not mattering?

I would suggest that you read up on Doctor Patient confidentiality laws. I believe that therapist who are mental health professionals, are bound by those same laws. [edited to add] It would be a good idea to get references from reviews or from some one you trust if possible.

You are correct. The vast majority of people that chose to become therapists do so with the desire to help others. Keeping client confidentiality is required and violation of this not only will lead to reprimand, but lawsuits and possible legal consequences. HIPPA and PHI is taken seriously.
Mental health professionals can/will only violate confidentiality is if the person is talking about killing others, committing suicide with a plan and assessed as having strong intent and means, abusing children/elderly/other vulnerable people and if the person discloses information of a serious crime harming others.
There are not "lists" that you would get put on at this point.
As far as good therapist/bad therapist and if one is able to help a person, it is as much about the person seeking therapy really being ready for the work required as it is about the therapist. The ability to develop a trusting relationship is the most important factor to success regardless the method of therapy used. If you do not click with a therapist, then be direct about it and move onto another, but try to be honest if you are really trying, or just avoiding doing real work.

 

About religion: my Dad and adoptive Mom are trained chaplains and very good at what they do. They actually do grief counseling for people. Had a lot of practice before my number was up...

Anyway I did have one bad experience with clergy he was calling me a "drug addict and sinner" because I was taking my bipolar meds. He had apparently had anxiety pills at some point, got hooked, thought all mental illness drugs were like that. He was quite vehement to the point I had to leave the church, actually.

So clergy can be a mixed ball, and I am an evangelical I love God and what He does in our lives. But some of His people aren't modern in their thinking about medicine.

 

Try this site:

National Directory For Conservative Therapists & Mental Health Professionals

This directory is meant to reduce barriers and provide support for Americans who are currently underserved.

www.conservativetherapists.com

I found it using the search engine gibiru.com

The search string was "mental health practitioners conservative"

I hope that this helps.

Good Luck and God Bless

P.W.