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Active Shooter - Gilroy, California

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People wonder how and why so-called "safe areas or states" with their intense anti-gun laws and rules have these mass shootings and mass murders. Basically what these areas are doing is advertising that they're human game preserves for any leftist who is armed with any kind of firearm available to them. As has been noted, if you really want to rack up a really good kill ratio, commit a mass murder in a gun free zone or an area where there is a strict anti-gun law presence.
 
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I agree that's pretty much exactly what it is for the people who do not care about human life. I wonder what their thoughts will be when all law abiding citizens are banned from owning guns and active shooter situations still keep happening. They'll probably say the shooters are from out of state because their logic dictates that criminals would give up their guns too.
 
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Last I checked, machine guns are illegal for all but a select few. On another note, not surprised the twit knows nothing about firearms.

Very Unfortunate for the Constitutional Conservatives caught behind enemy lines , has for the rest of the LIBTARD BOOTLICKERS it is of no real concern since they have willingly chosen DNC socialism and are no longer considered countrymen. JMHO and S/FI!
Many of them are leaving Comifornia. I keep saying let the libtard leftists have their socialist states on the west coast and wall them in. Send them the illegals, our career criminals and leave them to their own devices. I mean they don't believe in gun ownership, police or a strong military so...

It'll be people like you that cause all of us to lose our rights to have guns. Kind of like that idiot skank at the NRA who said that although the killings in Florida and Nevada were bad, they are nothing compared to the bloodbaths in big cities.
First of all, don't see how your first statement makes any sense. Second of all, she's right. In Chicago alone since the first of the year, there have been 1,465 shooting victims. That is 211 days so far. Averages out to 6.94 shooting victims a day in Chicago.

Detroit averages 5 shootings per day in 2019.

These are just the two cities I could find overall recorded numbers so far for this year. So the shootings in Nevada and Florida had a higher number of dead by the end of the unfortunate event, they were random acts that happen infrequently compared to cities like New York, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Compton and so on.

Given the location and the demographics and reactions of people in the videos... Sounds like a 'gang' fight.
This was my immediate assumption as well. Still no info yet.

I'm surprised they don't have a suspect arrested yet.
They do have one person in custody.

This should play DIRECTLY into the agenda of Kalifornistan wanting to ban ALL semi-automatic firearms and confiscate them. Looks TOO "coincidental" to be otherwise. Hmmmm! A "gang" fight at a GARLIC FESTIVAL??? REALLY?? I smell something and it AIN'T garlic!
Sometimes I wonder if the radical left orchestrate these unfortunate events to push their agenda.
 
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Given the location and the demographics and reactions of people in the videos... Sounds like a 'gang' fight. Someone stumbled into another guy at a concert who he had a 'beef' with and decided to pop him and his buddies. Reports are only 5 or 6 shots and 1 of the dead was a shooter. May have been a second guy involved, and that one may have been another dead. Could easily see it as an exchange of fire. 3 dead, 11 injured. Probably pass throughs and trampled people to get the injured.

I'm curious to know what performer was playing.
 
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Given the location and the demographics and reactions of people in the videos... Sounds like a 'gang' fight. Someone stumbled into another guy at a concert who he had a 'beef' with and decided to pop him and his buddies. Reports are only 5 or 6 shots and 1 of the dead was a shooter. May have been a second guy involved, and that one may have been another dead. Could easily see it as an exchange of fire. 3 dead, 11 injured. Probably pass throughs and trampled people to get the injured.

I'm curious to know what performer was playing.

Garlic festival, so probably a wide range of different people there. Yummy food bridges divides and differences like little else can :)
 
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It'll be people like you that cause all of us to lose our rights to have guns. I live outside of Chicago and every single weekend there are over 10 people shot and killed in that anti-gun murder capitol. I fight against safe zones and every anti-gun measure that I can because not only are they wrong and illegal, those anti-gun measures are stupid too.

If what I posted offends you, good! Wake up and smell the coffee because as more safe zones pop up you can expect more mass murders to happen. It will because of people like you, who calmly accept the manure of left, that we will lose more and more innocent lives. To me, those who don't fight against safe zones and the anti-gun lunacy are aiding and abetting in this long term string of violence that has hit our country. I sleep very well at night knowing how many of these armed and violent people I helped take down when I worked in a police uniform. I doubt if you can say the same thing.
 

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This is carnage.

What can we do to stop these things from happening or reduce the number of occurrences without turning our country into the wild west, or a police state?

Because the only answers I see are either arm everyone, or make it harder to own guns.

And there are tons of people I don't want anywhere near a firearm, for various reasons, most involve the health and safety of others.

And I would guess we all know people like that. Meaning, there are scores of people that shouldn't carry daily.

The mind then wanders to other solutions. Perhaps it is too easy to obtain a firearm, and more regulations should be imposed.
 
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Arm everyone or more gun control? Those are the only 2 options that you see available and since arming everyone scares you the only logical solution is more gun control? Did I get that right?

Where did this arm everyone mantra come from? It has certainly not been touted by those in favor of the Second Amendment. It is more likely to be a leftist antigun strawman. Allowing those who want to own a gun to defend themselves and their country is a far cry from giving everyone a gun. I'm not in favor of giving anyone a gun. If someone wants to own a gun they need to go out and buy one with their own money. That is the first step to showing individual responsibility.

Now where we? oh yeah your fear of others with guns. Yeah I'm not buying it. I'm a lot more afraid of an overbearing tyrannical government with all the means to disarm us than I am of some crazy with a gun. I carry a gun to protect me from people like that after all.

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The first thing I noticed about the reports is that once again they are looking for a second shooter that the police will likely not find. This appears to indicate a false flag with another participant either directing the incident or participating.

In most cases, the primary shooter was killed.

Second or third shooters were reported by witnesses but never found in these and possibly other shootings:

Aurora CO movie theater
Milwaukee WI Sikh temple
Newton CT Sandy Hook Elementary School
San Bernadino CA
Las Vegas NV Mandalay Bay
Parkland FL School
Gilroy CA Gilroy Garlic Festival

In the case of Sandy Hook, an alledged second shooter was dragged out in handcuffs and we never heard anything about it again. A possible third shooter was seen in the woods, although I suspect that was a local resident responding to the shooting sounds.
 
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  • It is being reported that the shooter cut his way through a fence, in order to bypass the magnetometers and LE personnel at the entrance.
  • It is also being reported that LE on location, engaged the shooter in less than a minute.
These are just more examples of regardless of the security presence, criminals will find a way to accomplish their acts.

Yet the far left wants and expects us all to surrender our firearms, and in effect, turn the entire country into a "gun free zone" where we all are subject to become easy pickins' for anyone who wishes to do us harm.

Of course, this gun free thing only applies to us little people. The far left needs their firearms and/or own security to protect them from the unwashed masses.
 
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  • It is being reported that the shooter cut his way through a fence, in order to bypass the magnetometers and LE personnel at the entrance.
  • It is also being reported that LE on location, engaged the shooter in less than a minute.
These are just more examples of regardless of the security presence, criminals will find a way to accomplish their acts.

Yet the far left wants and expects us all to surrender our firearms, and in effect, turn the entire country into a "gun free zone" where we all are subject to become easy pickins' for anyone who wishes to do us harm.

Of course, this gun free thing only applies to us little people. The far left needs their firearms and/or own security to protect them from the unwashed masses.

Hmmm, The shooter was just another law abiding citizen with a gun before he brought a gun illegally into the state (reportedly) and then cut into the fence to enter the venue. A bit opinionated like so many on SB, but apparently not a felon, just yet.

There were plenty of police, they engaged him in less than a minute yet he shot 15 or so people, 3 dead, in less time.

Sort of throws all the popular theories about lawful gun ownership and having many nice guys with guns out the window.

Then there is that pesky problem about his motivation. He apparently does not like Mexicans or all those liberals in silicon valley.




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Convenient mass of people. Just like that fellow that shot up a movie theater. It was likely not a criticism of the festival.

Sadly there are people that do not and will not abide by standards of moral human interaction. They wish to harm others. They will use whatever tool they can find to accomplish this. Laws and regulations against the tool used is a response based on primitive animism where we blame the tool rather the wielder of the tool. If only, the thinking goes, there was no guns (knives, explosives, fire, clubs, poisons, pointy sticks) than people would not be able to harm others. Far easier to regulate inanimate objects that it is to make people responsible for their use.
 
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I may be mistaken but didn't this occur in a GUN FREE ZONE? When will people learn that "gun free zone" means BRING YOUR CONCEAL CARRY!

Anyway ... it's likely another case of "multicultural diversity." You know ... that thing that makes America -- stronger.
 
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How many people die every day from: drugs, alcohol, tobacco, car wrecks, surgical errors ...

How many died to keep our freedom from tyrants like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Tojo, Mao, Pol Pot ...

Bad people will and have weaponize anything: cars, trucks, planes, trains, sticks, rocks. Is the solution to ban everything?

How about we start with executing killers.