Geesh. Is there anything of Obama's that he won't use?

 

ole racist Joe wont use Michelle

 

Follow the flashing light, Joey....

 

How exactly do they propose to do away with single family housing? Are they going to use eminent domain to confiscate everyone's homes? There would be even more riots in the street over that.

 

WHY do you think they built all those FEMA camps???????

 

I read the national review article and followed the link therein to Vice President Biden's housing policy... and I didn't see anything in the document to support the claim in the OP.

https://joebiden.com/housing/

Maybe you could point it out for us?

 

I’ve been studying Joe Biden’s housing plans, and what I’ve seen is both surprising and frightening. I expected that a President Biden would enforce the Obama administration’s radical AFFH (Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing) regulation to the hilt. That is exactly what Biden promises to do.

What surprises me is that Biden has actually promised to go much further than AFFH. Biden has embraced Cory Booker’s strategy for ending single-family zoning in the suburbs and creating what you might call “little downtowns” in the suburbs. Combine the Obama-Biden administration’s radical AFFH regulation with Booker’s new strategy, and I don’t see how the suburbs can retain their ability to govern themselves. It will mean the end of local control, the end of a style of living that many people prefer to the city, and therefore the end of meaningful choice in how Americans can live.

That's just a start Libby :thumb:

 

Not to sound like a conspiracy type person, but didn't obama's plan (due to perceived racial issues which was his game all along) largely fit that UN plan which I forget it is called at the moment, but obama seemed to like it. Of course, he seemed to like anything that changed our country to his view of what it should be.

 

You are talking about Agenda 21

 

If they draw the suburbs into the cities, that broadens the tax base they need to pay for all the failing Democrat strongholds.

The Dems are continually looking for any way to pay for their misadventures. My sister lives in Bartlett, Illinois. Bartlett is a Chicago suburb. They now have a 4% exit tax if you sell your home and leave Bartlett. That's 4% on the selling price of your home. On top of that, any new home buyer will be paying more in property taxes because the tax basis for the home is based on the new price.

 

Communities of color are disproportionately impacted by the failures in our housing markets, with homeownership rates for Black and Latino individuals falling far below the rate for white individuals. Because home ownership is how many families save and build wealth, these racial disparities in home ownership contribute to the racial wealth gap. It is far past time to put an end to systemic housing discrimination and other contributors to this disparity.

This part here says two things, the first is that it seems white people get off of their collective asses and work for what they want while others expect a hand out that old Pedo Joe is promising to give to them.

Secondly it says to me that Old Pedo Joe and the rest of the democrat party views white Americans as the enemy and not an ally. That to me means that the democrats are the enemy of this nation, just as any other terrorist organization, this cancer must be surgically removed.

 

While I certainly don't agree with your assessment of the former Vice President's policies... either way, nothing in anything you wrote here supports the thesis that Biden is planning to abolish the suburbs OR end single family zoning. If I missed it, please point it out.

 

Agenda 21/2030

 

There is this.^

And many suburbs and in some places, the idea of suburbs, is already in self destruct mode and have been for well over a decade.

Your once semi-ghetto urban and downtown areas start to get a Whole Foods store, then an Apple Store, developers start eyeing up properties, the condos and luxury apartments get built and the white gentrifyers move in.

They leave the suburbs they were raised in and their parents were proud to live in so they could have decent schooling and some leg room to the "greener pastures" of the inner city.


The urban dweller, now pushed out of their own neighborhoods because it is unaffordable to live in, now rent in cheaper suburban areas.

The suburbs with their new residences fall into the pits because the lack of tax dollars flowing in and businesses can't or won't adapt to new clientele will eventually get absorbed into the "big city". The general infrastructure of many suburbs is unsustainable without a massive tax base.


In my area the county commissioner or ex county commissioner, Armond Budish, was/is pushing to diversify aka Gentrify the western suburbs of Cleveland. I don't know if he is still in office.

 

Sorry, Libby, I was busy looking at trucks online. Your projection is showing. Whatever Dems say, if you reverse it 180 degrees, that is what they actually do, 100% of the time. As others have said, this is a continuation of Obamas attempt to enact Agenda 21 during his administration. Joe is a lifelong empty suit with no plans beyond his FOR SALE sign, so he is literally parrotting what his owners feed him to say.

Strange that you, a grown man, insist on being spoonfed what is painfully obvious. OTOH, now I get to pester you with articles by name for the next few months.

 

It seems that what I said to Libby was right about his gun confiscation. When I made that comment a few minutes ago, I was just going off of the video that Ole Pedo Joe made with Beto about taking AR15's. But as I read his campaign site look at what I found.

Hold gun manufacturers accountable. In 2005, then-Senator Biden voted against the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, but gun manufacturers successfully lobbied Congress to secure its passage. This law protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry. Biden will prioritize repealing this protection.

Get weapons of war off our streets. The bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that Biden, along with Senator Feinstein, secured in 1994 reduced the lethality of mass shootings. But, in order to secure the passage of the bans, they had to agree to a 10-year sunset provision and when the time came, the Bush Administration failed to extend them. As president, Biden will:

Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Federal law prevents hunters from hunting migratory game birds with more than three shells in their shotgun. That means our federal law does more to protect ducks than children. It’s wrong. Joe Biden will enact legislation to once again ban assault weapons. This time, the bans will be designed based on lessons learned from the 1994 bans. For example, the ban on assault weapons will be designed to prevent manufacturers from circumventing the law by making minor changes that don’t limit the weapon’s lethality. While working to pass this legislation, Biden will also use his executive authority to ban the importation of assault weapons.

Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. Currently, the National Firearms Act requires individuals possessing machine-guns, silencers, and short-barreled rifles to undergo a background check and register those weapons with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Due to these requirements, such weapons are rarely used in crimes. As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.

Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Biden will also institute a program to buy back weapons of war currently on our streets. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.

Reduce stockpiling of weapons. In order to reduce the stockpiling of firearms, Biden supports legislation restricting the number of firearms an individual may purchase per month to one.

Keep guns out of dangerous hands. The federal background check system (the National Instant Criminal Background Check System) is one of the best tools we have to prevent gun violence, but it’s only effective when it’s used. Biden will enact universal background check legislation and close other loopholes that allow people who should be prohibited from purchasing firearms from making those purchases. Specifically, he will:

Require background checks for all gun sales. Today, an estimated 1 in 5 firearms are sold or transferred without a background check. Biden will enact universal background check legislation, requiring a background check for all gun sales with very limited exceptions, such as gifts between close family members. This will close the so-called “gun show and online sales loophole” that the Obama-Biden Administration narrowed, but which cannot be fully closed by executive action alone.

Close other loopholes in the federal background check system. In addition to closing the “boyfriend loophole” highlighted below, Biden will:

Reinstate the Obama-Biden policy to keep guns out of the hands of certain people unable to manage their affairs for mental reasons, which President Trump reversed. In 2016, the Obama-Biden Administration finalized a rule to make sure the Social Security Administration (SSA) sends to the background check system records that it holds of individuals who are prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms because they have been adjudicated by the SSA as unable to manage their affairs for mental reasons. But one of the first actions Donald Trump took as president was to reverse this rule. President Biden will enact legislation to codify this policy.

Close the “hate crime loophole.” Biden will enact legislation prohibiting an individual “who has been convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime, or received an enhanced sentence for a misdemeanor because of hate or bias in its commission” from purchasing or possessing a firearm.

Close the “Charleston loophole.” The Charleston loophole allows people to complete a firearms purchase if their background check is not completed within three business days. Biden supports the proposal in the Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019, which extends the timeline from three to 10 business days. Biden will also direct the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to put on his desk within his first 100 days as president a report detailing the cases in which background checks are not completed within 10 business days and steps the federal government can take to reduce or eliminate this occurrence.

Close the “fugitive from justice” loophole created by the Trump Administration. Because of actions by the Trump Administration, records of almost 500,000 fugitives from justice who are prohibited from purchasing firearms were deleted from the background check system. The Biden Administration will restore these records, and enact legislation to make clear that people facing arrest warrants are prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms.

End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions. Biden will enact legislation to prohibit all online sales of firearms, ammunition, kits, and gun parts.

Create an effective program to ensure individuals who become prohibited from possessing firearms relinquish their weapons. Federal law defines categories of individuals who are prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms, and the federal background check system is an effective tool for ensuring prohibited persons cannot purchase firearms. But we lack any serious tool to ensure that when someone becomes newly prohibited – for example, because they commit a violent crime – they relinquish possession of their firearms. There are some promising models for how this could be enforced. For example, California has a mandatory process for ensuring relinquishment by any individual newly subject to a domestic violence restraining order. As president, Biden will direct the FBI and ATF to outline a model relinquishment process, enact any necessary legislation to ensure relinquishment when individuals newly fall under one of the federal prohibitions, and then provide technical and financial assistance to state and local governments to establish effective relinquishment processes on their own.

Incentivize state “extreme risk” laws. Extreme risk laws, also called “red flag” laws, enable family members or law enforcement officials to temporarily remove an individual’s access to firearms when that individual is in crisis and poses a danger to themselves or others. Biden will incentivize the adoption of these laws by giving states funds to implement them. And, he’ll direct the U.S. Department of Justice to issue best practices and offer technical assistance to states interested in enacting an extreme risk law.

Give states incentives to set up gun licensing programs. Biden will enact legislation to give states and local governments grants to require individuals to obtain a license prior to purchasing a gun.

Adequately fund the background check system. President Obama and Vice President Biden expanded incentives for states to submit records of prohibited persons into the background checks system. As president, Biden will continue to prioritize that funding and ensure that the FBI is adequately funded to accurately and efficiently handle the NICS system.

There is more at the site: https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

 

And it seems in order to press your lies, you forgot to look into all of the links on the OP story. I followed one and this is what it says:

The plan has three elements: 1) Inhibit suburban growth, and when possible encourage suburban re-migration to cities. This can be achieved, for example, through regional growth boundaries (as in Portland), or by relative neglect of highway-building and repair in favor of public transportation. 2) Force the urban poor into the suburbs through the imposition of low-income housing quotas. 3) Institute “regional tax-base sharing,” where a state forces upper-middle-class suburbs to transfer tax revenue to nearby cities and less-well-off inner-ring suburbs (as in Minneapolis/St. Paul).

If you press suburbanites into cities, transfer urbanites to the suburbs, and redistribute suburban tax money to cities, you have effectively abolished the suburbs. For all practical purposes, the suburbs would then be co-opted into a single metropolitan region. Advocates of these policy prescriptions call themselves “regionalists.”

AFFH goes a long way toward achieving the regionalist program of Obama and his organizing mentors. In significant measure, the rule amounts to a de facto regional annexation of America’s suburbs. To see why, let’s have a look at the rule.

AFFH obligates any local jurisdiction that receives HUD funding to conduct a detailed analysis of its housing occupancy by race, ethnicity, national origin, English proficiency, and class (among other categories). Grantees must identify factors (such as zoning laws, public-housing admissions criteria, and “lack of regional collaboration”) that account for any imbalance in living patterns. Localities must also list “community assets” (such as quality schools, transportation hubs, parks, and jobs) and explain any disparities in access to such assets by race, ethnicity, national origin, English proficiency, class, and more. Localities must then develop a plan to remedy these imbalances, subject to approval by HUD.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...com/corner/attention-americas-suburbs-you-have-just-been-annexed-stanley-kurtz/

 

And it seems in order to press your lies, you forgot to look into all of the links on the OP story. I followed one and this is what it says:



https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...com/corner/attention-americas-suburbs-you-have-just-been-annexed-stanley-kurtz/

That’s just more fake news that the author made up.

I’ll challenge you one more time to offer proof that Vice President Biden has a plan to abolish suburbs and end single family zoning. Not made up interpretations or spooky references to the tired old Agenda 21 boogeyman. Show us where Joe Biden says he plans to abolish the ‘burbs.

 

****, now we might to move again, further out, to the mountains, or the Redoubt.....

Taleeb Starkes nails it in this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-Confronting-Subculture-African-American/dp/0615748473

 

And one other thing Libby, you still have not addressed the issue of his stance on Gun control. I guess that does not play well with your personal agenda to destroy this country by any means necessary and rebuild it into a nationwide Detroit, which we all know is a Liberal Utopia.

 

If survivalists in general are correct, then suburbs are examples of urban sprawl, which involve using large tracts of land for leisure living and comfort, and require extensive amounts of energy and material resources because of distances, the need to develop infrastructure to supply electricity, potable water, etc., and others. These emerge thanks to affluence, in turn brought about by cheap energy and an abundance of resources. Similar can be seen in several parts of the world, where property is usually expensive because of additional infrastructure and personnel (such as security for gated communities and hospitals) to support them, and where the rich often live.

For survivalists, suburbs will eventually fall apart as supply chains are break down, together with the rest of industrial civilization.

 

as I have stated over and over, it is the democrats that are in bed with Russia

Documents suggest that the Russians paid bribes and/or kickbacks that ended up in the coffers of the charitable Clinton Foundation. This would be less of a concern had the alleged funds not been transferred while Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a panel that could have swayed the deal in Moscow’s favor. (Source: “FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow,” The Hill, October 17, 2017.)

One of the sources that first alleged that “Clinton sells uranium to Russia” was WikiLeaks. Indeed, WikiLeaks is full of articles that relate to important foreign officials donating substantial sums of money to the Clinton Foundation. Presumably, this was done in return for easier and more fruitful access to U.S. officials.
Hillary Clinton Sells Uranium Mines

The Justice Department of the United States, claims WikiLeaks, investigated the allegations that Hillary Clinton’s State Department approved the sale of U.S. uranium resources to a Russian company. The emails reveal the usual and close interaction between the campaign team members and the Clinton Foundation on the occasion of this “deal,” which was done in record time, all in connection with the State Department through Mrs. Clinton. (Source: “New Clinton Foundation scandal: Now Russians revealed to have routed millions of dollars to it while Hillary was Secretary of State to boost Moscow’s nuclear ambitions,” Mail Online, October 17, 2017.)

The speed with which the U.S. State Department approved the sale of American uranium mines to the Russians (specifically ARMZ Uranium Holding Co., a subsidiary of the Russian government-controlled Rosatom State Atomic Energy Corporation) is the element that aroused the Senate Judiciary Committee’s suspicions. After all, the deal implied that Russia would own some 20% of the United States’ uranium reserves. (Source: “Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal,” The New York Times, April 23, 2015.)

The investigation revealed many details about the relationship between the Clinton Foundation and many investors. It allegedly showed collusion in the commercial transaction that led to the Rosatom subsidiary’s purchase of Uranium One Inc (TSE:UUU). This raised obvious national security issues since it meant giving up, in fact, 20% of the U.S.’s uranium production capacity to the Russian government.

https://www.lombardiletter.com/clintons-allow-20-american-uranium-go-russia/19697/

 

as I have stated over and over, it is the democrats that are in bed with Russia

State whatever you want... but President Trump is acting as an agent of Russia and specifically his BFF Vladimir Putin.

https://www.businessinsider.com/for...sider.com/former-us-ambassador-russia-says-trump-always-sides-with-putin-2020-7

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic....com/politics/archive/2019/04/kremlin-dictates-trump-putin-relationship/586975/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812

https://themoscowproject.org/report...reports/putins-payout-10-ways-trump-has-supported-putins-foreign-policy-agenda/

 

I guess you communist democrats are all the same, tell a lie long enough and loud enough and maybe the rest of your fellow sheeple will believe it.

 

The Atlantic ????.? I think Libbys delusion is definitely pathological. He's a hoot though....hey, found this and thought of you.

https://pjmedia.com/election/stacey...-suburban-voters-joe-bidens-housing-policies-will-ruin-your-communities-n595905

 

What are your thoughts on homerule?

 

I used to get worked up about Libby's posts. But then I realized he has a severe, hopefully not terminal, case of TDS. A case which has thus far been resistant to all reasonable suggestions.

Not a good prognosis. Watching the disease spiral out of control after feeding on fake news is really sad to see.

I wish him the best towards some kind of recovery. Hopefully he is wearing a very thick mask, or not leaving his house, so he doesn't spread this terrible neurological condition.

 

Like the read line in the sand or financilly supporting ISIS. Epic fail.

 

Libby with the Russia thing again?!?!?

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! :

 

Libby is a pretty decent guy, he never insults or gets nasty but damn has he drank the KOOLAIDe.

 

Ill add that I think that eliminating SFH zoning is a good thing. As a property owner I want less regulation on property I own.

The market will drive density in areas where there is demand for it. Generally speaking a SFH can be replaced with a 4 plex. This helps to keep housing prices from skyrocketing like they have in many areas.

 

Was that Obama or Trump caught on a hot mike telling Putin that after the election he would be able to help him more?