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A real life Food Stamp encounter today

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#1 ·
We have all seen the pics of the receipts of the supposed purchases made with EBT cards of steak and cold water lobster. While I do not believe those are real, today i actually watched something like it happen.

I stopped by the grocery store to pick up some stuff for dinner. I was at the meat counter looking for some flank steak. There were two woman with three kids between them. They were looking at meat as well. One of the women pointed to small cuts of steak and the other said, "no, no, we want the Porterhouse, get the porterhouse." So they picked up three Porterhouse steaks, in excess of $20.00 each and dropped them in the cart.

Now I cant afford Porterhouse and I have a good job, but I have to use my money. One of these women had a Blackberry in one hand and sub made in the deli in the other. The other was listening to an Ipod Touch clipped to her pocket. Sticking out of the top of her other pocket? You guessed it, her food stamp card.

I understand people fall on hard times, but hard times are just that, hard. Eating Porterhouses isnt hard living to me. It is just a sad statement that some people treat this a lifestyle. It is as natural to them to have free food as it is for them to have free air. Its a crime that those of us that work have to pay for those that dont to live better than we do.
 
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#13 ·
I remember when my dad walked out on my mom and she was a stay at home mom so while times were hard she got food stamps(when they were stamps), and you were only limited to Milk, eggs, cereal, sandwich meat and usually the store brands of essentials ONLY. They were marked everything you could buy on food stamps had a tag next to the price. But options were limited. My mom was only on it till she got on her feet with her new job and then got rid of it. It was degrading, and depressing and she cried when she had to go on food stamps. It sucked, I was a youngen but I remember. Those people give other people having a hard time a bad name.
 
#14 ·
I have seen variations of welfare queens and others from South of the Border loading up grocery shopping carts with the highest priced food items and junk food in the store for a lot of years. Always burns my cookies when I see these scammers getting away with this, too.

Usually the kids they have with them are walking around in $300 athletic shoes and dressed in the latest fad clothing. Then, these cheats stand in the check-out line and yak on their cell phone......showing off their acrylic nails and fingers loaded down with gold and diamonds. Afterward, exit the store and load the groceries into a top-of-the-line expensive vehicle.

I will qualify this by saying that I DO NOT begrudge food stamps to any family who is genuinely in need of help and makes sensible purchases. But, the system is just screaming for an overhaul, which would limit food stamps to basic food items and make the expensive luxury foods off limits in that program.

Also, as another poster mentioned recently in another thread......it is just maddening to drive by the welfare office at the first of the month and see all the late model expensive cars parked in the lot.
 
#17 ·
Not to hijack, but I was approached by a person the other day as I walked into a restuarant. She asked for "a few $$ so she and her kids can eat".

My BS-o-meter went off. I ignored her, and didn't say anything as I continued on my business.

As I sat and ate, she walked by the window a few times asking every passerby for $$. Once she gave me a glaring look.

Not a fun meal for me. I was raised to give and not question. My dad taught me that I would be judged for not helping when asked, just as they would be judged for asking for help when they didn't need it. BUT, I digress.

When I walked out of the restuarant, She was 1 door away and busily texting on her $400.00 I-phone.

My BS-o-meter worked well. no more guilt.
 
#18 ·
While it certainly frustrates me to no end seeing folks on food stamps buying overpriced items like this, I can definitely see why it happens. The state thinks its better to give them loose access to food products and allow them to buy virtually anything, rather than restrict to only certain items and have them constantly complaining that they can't buy this or that.

The food industry does categorize products into buckets but it's poorly regulated and very inconsistent. One manufacturer or distributor might consider a can of Pinto beans a "food ingredient" and another might call it a "prepared food." There definitely isn't enough consistency or oversight to make sure ribeyes don't fall into the same category as ground chuck -- they're both "beef."

It would be a monumental effort to develop an "approved products" list that both excluded "extravagant" items such as caviar and $15/lb aged cheddar but still allowed you to buy sardines and Kraft singles.
 
#19 ·
I've got a good one, a friend of mine works for Wal-Mart. She had a customer come in and return a x-box. He was screaming at her and cussing that the x-box had been repackaged. She said she would give him a refund because things like that sometimes happens. On the reciept shows he paid for it with his EBT card. Sure is nice to know that an x-box is a need. It is a real shame that some people just don't get it.
 
#20 ·
Where I live (NY), Porterhouse steaks are about $8. I love to eat porterhouse and I feel bad that you can't afford to. Where is the joy of living if you deprive yourself of good food? What I do is plan to eat a "cheap meal" 3x a week. A cheap meal is mac and cheese, spaghetti, ramen stir fry, ect. These cheap meals cost $3-$5 to make. Then 2x a week, I make a medium cost meal ($5-8) like chicken soup,tacos, goulash or pot roast. The other 2 days I make a special meal like steak, corned beef, stuffed pork chops or seafood. If you use this sort of plan, you'll be able to afford a few nice meals each week. Life is short; get yourself a porterhouse tomorrow! :)
 
#21 ·
It is frustrating to see someone at the checkout line in front of me buying steak, junk food, etc., with a food stamp card or buying Nikes and designer jeans with a clothing voucher while I struggle to budget my money. It isn't fair and it irks me that some people will have more kids just to get bigger checks.

That being said, how many times do you notice the person using coupons and carefully selecting what they buy with their food stamps? They do exist. I have a friend that is a stay at home mom with 2 kids who has been on food stamps for about 3 -4 months now because her husband split. She has been looking for a better job but all she has found is a part time cashier job at the dollar store. She hasn't been anything but a homemaker for 20 some odd years. I took her to the store because she was too ashamed to go by herself.

She isn't taking a hand-out, she is getting assistance until she can do for herself and her kids. I agree that there are people out there that are using the system for everything than can, but we need to remember there are some good people out there that thru no fault of their own need some help.
 
#22 ·
I support a family of 5 on my salary and one of my daughters has celiac disease. All the stuff you listed there would kill her.

I don't eat porterhouse because a loaf of bread for her is over $5 and pasta is $3 a package. Ill go without so she doesn't have to. I want her to have a semi normal diet and be able to eat like a 14 year old
wants too.
 
#25 ·
Got a bread machine? Not being mean - wife bakes her own bread, flour is expensive but in the long run it really lasts.

Spaghetti squash has replaced pasta in a lot of our dishes. I know it's a life change but trust me, I have been through this with 3 in the house that have celiac disease. Now I am down to just one. A lot of your regular stores are stocking more and more gluten free pastas - price isn't much higher than the other.
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#23 ·
I'd love to get these inexpensive porterhouse steaks others get. A decent porterhouse is often a pound and a half of excellent beef. It runs between $35.00 to $39.00 when I periodically get two at the butcher.

What a lot miss is the welfare recipients often buy steak, they don't care the cut and cost, because it goes to the pitbull or rottweiler as you can't buy dog food on SNAP/EBT, and many of them aren't accustomed to steak. During the program where Law Enforcement, Firemen, Correction and others were encouraged to buy homes in bad areas at incredible rates, I knew an officer who moved to Hilltop in Tacoma. He saw them feeding dogs to steaks. He saw them wasting meat like mad. He went to a neighborhood picnic and got sickened by what he saw-he wanted a pedigree dog and they had many of them, rotts and pitts, fed them steak in the block party/BBQ. He saw children taking one bite out of quarter of chicken and throw it away, etc., every thing folks talk about. Then he saw them dump the stuff and noted a whole trash cans of meat. Oh, and they can't raise the money for their own food, but they got money for pure breds, bling, chronic (marijuana) and 40 ouncers of Old English.

This isn't a lie.

It gets even better. Not only do they have money for food like that from SNAP/EBT, they get free breakfasts and lunches at school too. We're paying for their food twice.
 
#24 ·
I always enjoy it when i go to the store and all I have is $30 to feed a family of 4 on, and see people pulling 2 basket full of name brand groceries, mostly junk food, pay for it all with food stamps then load it up in a $40,000 vehicle. all the while i am hoping 10 lbs of potatoes rice and beans will sustain us till next pay day, granted i buy my pork and beef off of area farmers and it averages $1.60/ lb. my house hold income dived past five years of no raises, increase of insurance premiums and food cost. tried applying for food stamps this year even, was turned down because I made $3.23 over the limit to qualify, the they had the nerve to tell me i could only own one vehicle worth up to $48,000. that blew my socks off, I have two vehicle paid a total of 19hundred for the both of them. now if you fell on hard times and are driving a $48,000 vehicle, wouldn't you think about selling it and buy a reliable clinker to get by on until you are able to get back on your own two feet?
 
#28 ·
Hey, I'd actually accept an ultra liberal perspective!

Let's make it so the welfare recipients can't buy any meat products with SNAP/EBT but they can buy soy and wheat based proteins. No sugary products. No caffeine. No salty products. No fatty products. Only 'healthy ones'. No candy.*

They'll either have be become Vegans or go to work, and I seriously doubt they'd choose to live for long an a Vegan diet.



*Yes, they can buy ungodly amounts of candy with SNAP/EBT.
 
#30 ·
Have any of yall ever herd of people selling food stamps? i have herd of people selling food stamps. what they do is trade $100 in foodstamps/ lonestar card for $50 or so in cash. the either go shoping with them or just lend there card out. i work in a very poor area with alot of poeple living in motels and they always come into the BAIT shop trying to by BAIT shrimp with food stamps. also a few come in trying to sell them. it makes me very angry but i dont want to get on the s*** list in that area.
 
#33 ·
I could go right now and get double my money in food. The thought has been tempting through the years - I could double my preps. But I won't contribute to this b.s. In fact just last month I got offered 10 for one. I said 'no you're gonna need it for the kids. ' the answer - 'i'll just take them to the church down the street, I really need the cash right now.'. By his eyes I could tell why.
 
#34 ·
Growing up we were middle class and we ate steak at least 3 times a month it's all about knowing which cut to get the cheapest way to season it and exactly how much each person will eat.

Growing up we had a family live across the street from us that was on welfare they always had nice thing and were always rubbing it our face. I NEVER give away money to anyone with a song and dance but I do give to charities.

My father and I do go out throughout the year and get things on sale like shoes clothing backpacks and such and will give them out throughout the year to the truly needy but to anyone at a gas station who really needs money for x y and z naw

If we can be audited how come they can't be? **** I'll volunteer for that job

You want to give money to the needy look up childs play
 
#36 ·
My part-time job through high school was at a very nice grocery store. Some of most aggressive, pushy customers paid with food stamps (they were still paper back then). I dreaded them coming through my line. They almost always had two separate orders. One was food, paid for with the stamps. They other was tobacco and alcohol products, paid for with cash. The food carts would be overflowing with all kinds of stuff. Yes, usually lots of expensive meat. They were often very well-dressed and wore what looked to me like expensive jewelry. There weremoften several kids tagging along, also wearing expensive clothes and shoes. When they'd drive up to have their bags loaded, they would be driving expensive, flashy cars. My young, naive, teenage mind didn't get it. I still don't.

There were also some modest customers paying with food stamps that seemed ashamed and self-conscious. These were often the ones using coupons and shopping the sales to stretch the dollars out. These people were not purchasing alcohol or tobacco.

Just some observations I made while working my minimum wage paying first job.
 
#38 ·
This is nothing new.

I distinctly remember in 1970 while shopping at a Farmer Jack's in Philiadelphia (where I was stationed as a young, newly married Marine trying to make ends meet), there was a lady in front of me in line.

The thought went through my head, "why the heck is she shopping here?", because she was very well dressed and of course her cart was full. I even remember thinking how good the quality of the foods were while I was buying generic. Standing in a boring line you can't help but look around.

Of course, she paid in food stamps. I just kind of looked and wondered how the heck that was possible.

That was over 40 years ago - nothing's changed, except for the worse.