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A kinder gentler suicide?

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#1 ·
Switzerland has just legalized a new way to die by assisted suicide. The country’s medical review board has authorized the use of the Sarco Suicide Pod, which is a 3-D-printed portable coffin-like capsule with windows that can be transported to a tranquil place for a person’s final moments of life.
 
#8 ·
Just get in the boxcar and you get a free shower too.

The penalty for attempted suicide should be death - be careful for what you wish for.

Step right up and bear your arm for cohoax vaccine 666 - not libel for the loss of your soul or life - manufacture's are exempt.

Logan Run - there is no one over 30 - except the billionaire NWO type dictators.
 
#47 ·
Glock, I think the "official" US version to this, as seen in Oregon and (I believe) Washington State (An attempt for same legislation in Maryland and D.C., but failed to pass) is tha
t when person has confirmed only 6 months or less to live, they can seek to end their life ...... and the costly bills ...... under a "physician assisted suicide".

That's my understanding.
 
#13 ·
I’m not saying I like suicide, but I think of Deiter Dengler in a case like this. He was one of a handful of American servicemen who escaped from a POW camp during the Vietnam War. Later in life he was diagnosed with an incurable disease. He wheeled himself to a fire station in his wheelchair and shot himself at the age of 62.

Scraping a war hero’s brains off the pavement had to be horrific for those firefighters, and that was just a brutal way for a man who’d earned some peace to die. Frankly - though I don’t like it - I think assisted suicide should be legal for someone in such a situation.
 
#16 ·
I used to struggle with severe depression and had an attempt.

I am extremely grateful that I did not succeed and to the EMS personnel and others who helped keep me alive. I did not see it as help at the time but it was. I live with extremely bad chronic pain from a head injury that not even powerful opiates dissipate. Pineapple juice however, does take the edge off. Something to do with bromide compounds.

If you're feeling down, wait. Time really does heal all wounds and you'll have your time in God's good grace.

Assisted suicide is eugenics and it is death worship. I do not believe in such things.
 
#18 ·
I used to struggle with severe depression and had an attempt.

I am extremely grateful that I did not succeed and to the EMS personnel and others who helped keep me alive. I did not see it as help at the time but it was. I live with extremely bad chronic pain from a head injury that not even powerful opiates dissipate. Pineapple juice however, does take the edge off. Something to do with bromide compounds.

If you're feeling down, wait. Time really does heal all wounds and you'll have your time in God's good grace.

Assisted suicide is eugenics and it is death worship. I do not believe in such things.
Agreed, but there comes a time when a person has become so ill and there is no relief from their pain, that death releases them from such.

Physicians have been passively assisting people with suicide for years. They tell the terminal Cancer patient taking one or two certain drugs is for the normal pain, but not to take more than three, lest it will kill them.
 
#22 ·
I recall a Star Trek episode where they had simulated wars with simulated casualities. Then random people were chosen to report to the disintergation chambers to fulfill the simulated deaths.

Suicide goes against many personal, religous, and cultural beliefs,
but are we as a society being brainwashed into thinking this is
perfectly OK and will in the future willingly step into the
disintegration Chamber?
 
#23 ·
I recall a Star Trek episode where they had simulated wars with simulated casualities. Then random people were chosen to report to the disintergation chambers to fulfill the simulated deaths.

Suicide goes against many personal, religous, and cultural beliefs,
but are we as a society being brainwashed into thinking this is
perfectly OK and will in the future willingly step into the
disintegration Chamber?
I don’t think it’s OK, but I also don’t feel like I have a right to interfere with someone else’s decision. A guy used to post here who was a Marine and injured in Iraq. He had chronic pain and admitted that some day he might commit suicide if he couldn’t handle it anymore. I didn’t agree with a lot of what he said, and I think he was an overall good guy that society was better having around. But I respect him his right to make an end of life decision for himself. I can’t prevent it anyhow. There’s countless ways for someone to commit suicide. If they want to try, they will. But I can allow them more dignity than being found hanging in the garage by their wife or kids.

IMO, let people say goodbye and go out in peace with the least trauma to their loved ones. People have legitimate moral objections to that point of view. I suppose I do too, but my moral objection probably isn’t a good enough reason to increase someone else’s suffering.
 
#25 ·
I believe suicide is immoral, but that is a personal thing. If others decide it is moral for them, that doesn't bother me. I don't think the government should get involved. And there really is no way to regulate it well. If someone wants to top themselves, they can figure out a way to do it. I don't see the need for some hi-tech device. I also don't agree with physician assisted suicide. Doctors should not be in the business of killing. That would include executions and ********* too.

But one thing I am adamant about is conflating gun violence and gun suicides. One has nothing to do with the other. One is a public safety issue, the other a medical/mental health issue. I strongly object when the MSM includes gun suicides with homicides in statistics.
 
#32 ·
My mother tried to commit suicide when I was 8 years old with a butcher knife while in the bathtub. She cut her throat and both wrists. I'm the 1 that found her. She lived and I had severe depression and anger issues over that for most of my life. Thankfully, I was able to finally forgive her and the last 10 years of her life we settled our differences and became as close as a mother and daughter should be.

I am all for assisted suicide if you have a terminal illness, not so sure about if you have a mental illness because you can possibly recover from it with meds and therapy. If you want to kill yourself, go for it, it's your life, just make damn sure it's somewhere a family member, especially a child, can't find you.
 
#50 ·
Wow. I'm so sorry. I truly hope you learned to cope with that situation.

As a Christian, I've pondered the philosophical implications of suicide. Suicide is murder (self murder). Can a person repent of that sin and could he/she see the Kingdom of God? Don't get me wrong. I would consider doing it if I was in excruciating pain or if I got mauled by a bear and was lying there bleeding out but I still wonder what the long term implications would be.
 
#37 ·
I didn't want to post earlier,but will add to see if it makes any of my thoughts seem legit.
My wife was in the hospital for 4 1/2 months straight,after 10 years of fighting.
She was on the max amount allowed under protocol(pain med)
I made the choice to finally transfer to hospice,where they could legally make her comfortable,palative.
We all knew with a wink and grin it was code for its over,we can dope her up as much as you want,for a peaceful end.
Its a choice I had to make,and I'm at peace with it on this earth .
I will not judge anyones else choice.
 
#34 ·
Any decent psychiatrist will say they won't treat a patient with access to guns. I know one patient who was "fired" because he owned a shot gun and refused to take medication as directed, then mouthed off to the doctor when asked to get on the scale.

And virtually every method of suicide is messy. If you use pills you will have vomiting and relaxed bowels. Cutting leaves all the blood, etc. One woman actually used the method I had planned but it is AWFUL. Go to the freeway overpass, over the freeway, it is very high, and then jump. If the fall doesn't kill you the car will. And it "worked" she died. Made a hell of a mess though. It takes a lot to kill a person unless I suppose you go out in the snow and freeze to death but then that is horrible for the suicider. And this is what always stopped me; there's a good chance you will survive if it isn't God's will for you to die. And then you are messed up. I think life is bad enough walking and talking... what if I couldn't? What if I am stuck in some facility getting raped by the staff? That would be a lot worse. So I never did it (plus I did not want to leave my husband).
 
#44 ·
It takes a lot to kill a person unless I suppose you go out in the snow and freeze to death but then that is horrible for the suicider.
I actually almost froze to death some years ago. It was only bad for a little while. By the time I gave up trying to get my car out of the snow, I was no longer cold. I was comfortable. In fact, I wanted to take off my coat and walk home, but stop on the way in a field, lie down and look up at the stars (which were incredibly beautiful). Instead, I did up my coat as well as I could and walked to a nearby friend's house (like three houses away).

So, while I now know that freezing to death doesn't have to be bad if one has a beautiful sky to look at, I was left with an aversion to cold.