Why would you want a rifle in such a piddle pistol caliber .

 

Why answer a question with a question? The OP asked for recommendations. There are many good reasons for getting PCC's ( pistol caliber carbines).

OP: if this is for the wife to shoot, to use as a plinker or a truck gun, I can recommended the Hi Point 9095TS. Built like a tank ( for bouncing around in the truck or general abuse), small and compact, inexpensive and reliability that's backed up by a lifetime no-questions-asked warranty with outstanding warranty service.

My research pointed me in that direction as I'm into practical guns. YMMV.

 

Because I want something my wife can shoot comfortably with being able to use 9MM ammo from pistol as well. That is not for me lol I also have seen 9mm and what it can do with proper shot placement so I am not worried about it being a 'piddle pistol caliber'

 

Beretta has the CX4 that is very nice but it is expensive.there are many 9mm conversions for AR's. I own 2 CX4's and 3 of the hi points and can say the hi point will shoot just as well as the beretta but it does not feel as nice as the beretta as far as quality of materials. The carbines that hi point makes are worth far more than they cost.
As to why have a PCC I would ask why not the are fun to shoot (yes some of us actually enjoy shooting and not sit home looking at our preps) logisticaly they make ammo easy to stock and for 90% of what you are likely to encounter they will be more gun than you need.

 

ok will you then go to the poll on general firearms..where it says "just for kaka and giggles" and cast your vote for the 92F/CX4 combo

 

Thank you Robbk. I have shot a couple of AR variants and so has my wife, she loved it and is a crack shot. But I was just looking to see if other people had different ones they liked. I have handled a few HiPoints and they arent horrible. May go down that road.

 

There's a Kel-Tec Sub 2000, A lot of people like it because it is foldable and can fit in a BOB. The problem with Kel-Tecs is that the company is small and their production runs are correspondingly small. They make innovative products, but they cannot meet demand, so many times, demand drives the price up. I have seen 9mm Sub 2000s sell for more than a 9mm AR conversion.

 

one of the oldest ones out there, UZI , 9mm carbine. think IMI did the simiauto varient.

 

yes but the asking price on gunbroker is around 2K

 

Thanks everyone. I will look into everything!

 

my mrs has a jr carbine, great little gun, it takes glock mags and hers has been very reliable. only issue is that take down requires a couple tools. not sure what the prices are south of the border though.

 

Don't snub that Hi-Point 995TS-FG! Yes its not as quality made as a AR-15 in 9mm, but it is about 1/3 the price! I own one and would pick it over a Keltec 8 days a week as my 995 will digest about any brand of ammo out there unlike the Keltec that has shown its self to be quite picky about what will reliably function in it. Yes its not the easiest gun to break down for a thorough cleaning but then again Hi-Point says it can go 1500 rounds or so before you need to break it down to parade rest. I still give it a half decent cleaning in the field though after each use and its held up very well. Other than that down side the other down side I see is mounting any kind of scope on the plastic rail system of the TS model as it flexes too much to make scope mounting truly useful to you. The fact that your limited to 10 round magazines kinda sucks too. But the iron sights on it are very well made, well protected and work GREAT! While Im not one to buy a cheap gun, for the price point and considering the capability, I am putting this one in the worth while category if you have a 9mm handgun and ammo already to go with it!

 

there's the marlin camp carbine, not sure how hard they are to find. Heard they weren't made any longer. The 9mm camp carbine takes a s&w pistol magazine. Also some of the destroyer carbines were made in 9mm rather than 9mm largo. May be too pricey due to collectors. Also Mechtech makes a conversion kit to convert a glock to a carbine.



http://www.mechtechsys.com/glock.php

 

Ah! Those are golden oldies right there ! I had one in 9mm when I was a youngster. My Dad hated it,lol. He called it a girl gun. I sold mine in a fit of stupid. He had one in 45 ACP that went Elvis after he passed. You see camp carbines on the auction websites li,e gunbroker, gunsamerica and the like and they are jot cheap, but in my mind they are worth it. Wish they would bring thay one back.

 

I have a marlin camp 9. I like it. It is like shooting a big .22. Fun to plink. I carried it a few time during deer season when I hunted in the brush. It does take smith clips. I shoot cast projectiles that I mold and reload. When one considers its range limitations, its a fun rifle.

 

Marlin camp 9 was the only one I would think of owning been wanting one in 45 for years but bit pricey.

 

One nice thing about the camp carbine in .45 acp is that it takes 1911 magazines. I have the 9mm and the .45 acp model. Handy rifles but for the most part if I carry a rifle it will be a .308.

 

I built my wife a 9mm AR...it is nice. She hasn't shot it yet, but the neat thing is that I can shoot it at the local indoor range.

Honestly, if she takes to shooting a rifle it will probably be the m1 carbine. Which I don't mind, it is more powerful than a 9mm.

 

IF you can find one,,, the Ruger PC9 is an awesome firearm. I have the PC40 and have found it to be a very reliable platform.

 

9MM AR is my current. I have also owned a Storm, that I regret letting go, and a Keltec Sub 2000 that was a great little gun I would have kept if it was in Beretta mags instead of S&W. I have also owned an Uzi in 9MM, it was fun, but I would look to one of the other 3 before it.

I would say Keltec if you have a 9MM pistol in the same as they offer. Better options would be the AR conversion, or dedicated 9MM, or the Beretta storm with some of the 20 rounders. Both of those are excellent to mount optics to. Keltec has some options for sub2000, but they are kinda crapy in comparison.

Don't knock the 9MM rifles, fire a 148g round out of one and see how quiet it is in a 16inc pipe with out a can. The 9MM rifle is also a favorite of mine for Coyote hunting for that reason. Use good hollow points and it will dispatch all kinds of nasty critters.

 

9MM AR is my current.

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Better options would be the AR conversion, or dedicated 9MM, or the Beretta storm with some of the 20 rounders.

That was my thinking. I figured with an AR, I had many more options. I went with an RRA upper for $400 and a Spikes magwell block for $65. About the same as I would have paid for a Sub 2K at the time. So far, it has been flawless, but I only have about 1200 rounds through it.

It was a tough decision, because I really like the compact size of the Sub 2K when folded, but the deciding factor was I could get surplus Israeli Uzi mags for about $7 a pop, and once I got the jigs set up on the mill, it only took about 3-4 minutes per mag to convert for use with the AR.

 

9mm Tavor!

 

I haven't won the lottery yet. At $1700 there is not enough utility to warrant the expense.

 

I have a PC 9 that is very reliable. Takes Ruger 9mm mags. I can ring the gong at 100 yrds. with boring regularity with my 125gr. cast bullets. I don't think I've ever had a bobble of any kind with it. I just use the open sights that came with it. But an optic would/could be added easily. It's a keeper, but then they all are.

 

I like mine.

 

nice carbine...decent price..function good & can shoot cheap 9mm ammo.

I might even get one.

 

Thanks everyone for your suggestions! I will have some more looking and researching but at least I have a better baseline now!

 

I have a KelTec Sub2000 in 9, a High Point in 9 and a Marlin Camp 9.
The High Point I got for $150 used, hard to beat that. Ugly as hell but shoots great. It is left at my BOL, if it gets stolen it isn't a $1k AR.
The Marlin- interesting gun and I like it- be advised they have some issues stock where they need a recoil buffer and sometimes a recoil spring change to last very long. They'll actually beat themselves to death without the recoil buffer in particular.
The Kel-Tec- now that is one handy gun- picture an innocent looking laptop case that contains a Sub 2000 and a Glock 19- same mags. Add in a few Glock pistol mags and several 30 round mags and a few hundred rounds of ammo- Great low profile way to be pretty well armed. Don't forget out of a 16" barrel +P9mm is much more impressive than out of a handgun barrel.

 

Citadel Arms has a M1 carbine thar fires 9mm and uses Bereta 92 mags.

 

what he said ...

 

There is a Polish surplus firearm that has a 9mm version. It might technically be a pistol because of length, I can't remember. The name was something like polish PC9. 35rd mags, $300, decent reviews on short range accuracy.

Found a link
http://www.slickguns.com/product/polish-pps-43c-9mm

 

if you are buying one or two, spend a bit extra and get Beretta CX4s. If you are buying a bunch, get Hi Points.

 

Don't buy the chiapa m1-9 piece of junk. I can't tell you what you should buy as that is the only 9mm carbine I've ever owned

 

The Hi Point 995 lead the 9mm category because its cheap and is indestructable. It also has good sights on it. The Kel Tec has poor sights poor position to mount scope. Uzi is heavy expensive not a true shoulder fire. Storm is expensive missing the point of 9mm carbine. The others like the marlins are discontinued. I really hated my HP995 tell I forced myself to shoot it. I honestly thought it was mall ninja **** compared to "real" firearms. Ends up its a great shooter and one of my favorites.