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Discussion starter · #24 ·
Smokeyr67 said:
Whilst it's laudable that he's preparing, I cant see the value in buying multiple weapons.

A semi auto .22 will kill food sized animals, and make a bad guy think twice.

People often dismiss the .22 as a round that wont cause damage, but I defy anyone to keep attacking after thay cop a couple of well placed .22 rounds
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So I am guessing in your tool box you just have a banging thingie and a squeezie thingie.. after all you can put a screwq in with a pair of plyers.
 
Discussion starter · #25 ·
Nolan.Sackett said:
I can see buying food, water, and other preparedness items but if they started stocking weapons as a church it might be a bit sketchy. Nothing wrong with a little gentle encouragement for the individuals to arm themselves though.

Doginit: Thats great about your church. Will the church use those supplies to help the community if a disaster strikes? Maybe something like if you attend services on Sunday morning and give a few hours to help in the garden etc?
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The stuff he bought was for his family. We have a food pantry at the church already.. if SHTF we will relocate the food pantry food to somebodies house and it will be for anybody in need - not just for church members
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
Tonight he stopped by for a visit, He does not have a credit card or a pay pal account because he usually just pays cash. I have been talking to him about silver, so tonight he ask me to go online and buy him a little over $1,000 in silver - He is going to give me cash on monday.

now he has food, guns, and PM.. I told him he needs to buy a grain mill and a water filter system (and let me borrow them...lol)
 
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maine-marine said:
The stuff he bought was for his family. We have a food pantry at the church already.. if SHTF we will relocate the food pantry food to somebodies house and it will be for anybody in need - not just for church members
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WOW. You got him in fifth gear, going 120! Some peoples eyes open wide very quickly.
Nice convert. Got me thinking I should approach my pastor. My church does a ton for the needy in our community, but as far I know, my church is not prepping.
 
#30 ·
Nolan.Sackett said:
Doginit: Thats great about your church. Will the church use those supplies to help the community if a disaster strikes? Maybe something like if you attend services on Sunday morning and give a few hours to help in the garden etc?
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Yes, we are already listed as a disaster shelter for our area.
Our stated mission IS indeed to assist our neighbors in time of need. Most important is the instruction from the classes we offer to get our parishioners to start NOW with the work necessary for sustaining our own families.

The long term food storage will be to feed those who didn't prepare and are hungry. So basically, we'll be a 21st century soup kitchen. We'll run as long as we can before it is all gone I guess. Just doing what we can to help...even if it is short term.

Doginit
 
#31 ·
In our area, almost all the pastors i know prep, i am a "prepping" pastor and preach self sufficiency in the context of suffiency on God. I preach against the prevailing "entitlement mentality" that is so deeply entrenched in folks today. In some ways i am a prepping evangelist...LOL.Most pastors have upgraded thier church security protocal and have CC licenses, We know a guy that goes around from church to church teaching self defense to various age groups and emphasizing situational awareness.Many churches are involved in food ministries of one type or another, even have one in our town planting a victory garden to be a blessing to the community, this next season they are increasing from 1 acre to 2 acres and are supplying free help to those that need it. I have noticed though that many understandably are very careful how they discuss it.....most preachers don't want to be known as the pistol packing preacher or a food hoarder, because some errantly view it as a lack of trust in the providence of God alone. I see this as a very encouraging sign that there is an awakening going on amongst the people of God.

Gen 41:48 And he gathered up all the food of the seven years, which were in the land of Egypt, and laid up the food in the cities: the food of the field, which was round about every city, laid he up in the same.
Gen 41:49 And Joseph gathered corn as the sand of the sea, very much, until he left numbering; for it was without number.


Pro 6:6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise:
Pro 6:7 Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler,
Pro 6:8 Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest.
 
#32 ·
The Saint said:
well some people dont feel like its theirs unless they work for it. :D:
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That reminds me of an event that took place around here a couple of years ago....

A man had a nice fridge he wanted to get rid of so he rolled it out to the mouth of his driveway and placed a sign "works good...Free"......there it sat for over 2 weeks...no takers.....then he put a sign up "Really" it works, just take it! The man asked his son why no body wanted it and he said because no one believed a free fridge would work good.....so the next day he put $100.00 on it and the next night someone stole it! LOL
 
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A few years back my Preacher, who is also my lifting buddy, mentioned he had a pistol that was a gift from his wife right after marrying some 30 years ago. He brought it out, a nice little 4" S&W in .38 special. I took him, his pistol and some of my handloads out to do some shooting, along with a few guns of my own;) Long story short, within a year or so he had a Marlin .357/38, and O/U 12 gauge shotgun, a .22 pistol, 22 rifle and then finally another Marlin in .30-30.

Boy does he do a lot of shooting per year now:thumb:
 
#35 ·
Russelltacarms said:
Unfortunately not many people in my church are prepping, they all believe all will be taken care of.
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Many think that way. And they are write to some degree. But, do you sit at the dinner table and food well suddenly appear on its own? GOD expects us to do the preparing/labor. We are told to be ready/prepare. Be sure and do what you know to do and eventually others well wake up. Pray for them. Also, sometimes not all are meant to know either. Some may not handle these things very well in there minds, but pray for those who are supposed to, to wake up. This scripture is spiritual preparation and literal.
Matthew 25:
1 At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep. 6 "At midnight the cry rang out: 'Here's the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!' 7 "Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.' 9 'No,' they replied, 'there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.' 10 But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut. 11 Later the others also came. 'Sir! Sir!' they said. 'Open the door for us!' 12 But he replied, 'I tell you the truth, I don't know you.' 13 Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
 
#36 ·
thereisacause said:
because some errantly view it as a lack of trust in the providence of God alone.
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In all honesty also, some of them also are afraid of what the world would think of them. Agreed, many see it as a lack of trust also, but...... as I mentioned.

Also in fairness though, it is a difficult task to balance a ministry of non offense. I admire those that take that on.:)
 
#37 ·
None of our church people prep, although a number of them farm and garden. The associate pastor teaches our Sunday school class. He told us the other day that he did not even own a gun.

I wanted to give him one of the many Mosin Nagant rifles that I have, but my wife told me no. Not because of the money, but she was concerned that it would cause waves at the church.
 
#38 ·
JohnWStiner said:
None of our church people prep, although a number of them farm and garden. The associate pastor teaches our Sunday school class. He told us the other day that he did not even own a gun.

I wanted to give him one of the many Mosin Nagant rifles that I have, but my wife told me no. Not because of the money, but she was concerned that it would cause waves at the church.
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She is probably correct. But they well be grateful you have them when the time is needed:)
 
#39 ·
maine-marine said:
The Pastor of the church I attend is not just a pastor but a friend.

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yesterday I went with him to check out some gun shops...

He came home with a:
-Marlin 30-30 model 336
-Mossberg model 500 pump 12 gauge
-semi auto 22 rifle (I forgot the make)
-5 boxes of 30-30 ammo
-about 1500 rounds of 22 ammo
-several boxes of 12 gauge
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Man, I'm ROFLMAO. Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition.
Most clerrgymen are on a tight budget, so one wonders how he got all that at once?

I'm glad to see that some many clergymen are prepping and encouraging their flocks to do likewise.
 
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