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What kind of statement is that? You want to control us? I am glad you are stuck with the the overpriced .223. You and those like you caused the ammo panic.
If it is a situation where it's us folk against some well defined enemy, like a foreign invasion, then fine I'll barter to give neighbors ammunition. IF it is a bad situation where it's common to see neighbor against neighbor, then my statement holds true. Anything I hand out may be used against me.


Actually, I was dead set on getting a rock river .223. They were out of stock at the time. After they got one in stock. I choose to lay low on firearms purchases.
 
i wouldnt barter bullets unless im giving them to someone out of the end of my rifle as they can be used against you and is a not very easily reproducable product
 
Some of the first ones that come to mind are:

22 long rifle
223
7.62X39
30-30
270
30-06

12 gauge - #4 shot, 00 buckshot and slugs

9mm
40 S&W
45 acp
357 magnum
 
If everyone stocks .22LR to barter with, who you going to barter with? Think about it, everyone will have it already...:confused:
Not true.. if everyone stock piles there would be no need to trade anything.. everyone would have piles of stuff already...

What happens if you say had a few guns would go hunting have a few rounds around then well you run out.. ammo could get you food.. Ammo any kind is good to have.. But I would only buy ammo for guns you already own.. why.. Have a Ill stock everything just incase.. well what happens if no one wants to trade a gun ect.. you already got a few guns why do you need several more? I say stock what you own nothing else.. and if you run out of food ect then trade some off but it all depends..
 
I would triple the .22 LR you have now before even thinking about any extra for bartering. 8,000 rounds is only ~ a case and a half (5,000/case). That goes real fast with even an average amount of shooting.

For CF rifles: 30-06, 308, 7.62X39, 223.
For CF handguns: 9mm, 38 spl, 357 mag, 45 acp.
For shotgun: #4, #8 field brass. 00 Buckshot. Slugs (most reloaders won't reload for these but could end up using a lot).
 
I think the best calibers for bartering are going to be the ones used mostly in hunting guns. Those folks usually don't own but about half a box of ammo. Military calibers are going to be everywhere, but the guy with the .270, .30-30 or 7mm mag are going to be wanting ammo really, really bad.
 
I've been stocking up on ammo for a year or so. Not so much for SHTF as to preserve my ability to enjoy my hobby if the crazy Cali Libs tax it to death or ban it all together. I'm up around 21,000 rds with about 8,000 of that being .22 . I think the .22 would be best for bartering due to it's popularity, what do you think would be the other most popular calibers to barter for needed supplies in a post SHTF world? I'm thinking with all the ARs around that .223 might be number two on the list. Any thoughts?

Mike
Let's think about this. If you barter for ammo, what's to keep the ammo recipient from using it on you and getting whatever you traded for back, along with everything else he/she can carry?
Barter for stuff if you must/can/wish, but don't barter for ammo, guns, grenades, etc. that can potentially be used against you.
 
My thought was to stock up on 12 gauge shells for this reason. Most people at least have a shotgun. Not AR's, not 1911's, not 30-06's in the closet. But so many have an old shotgun around. I have several neighbors that couldn't give a $hit about guns, but have dad's gun or something they bought to go on that one-time hunting trip. The 12 gauge is great for both self defense and hunting, both will be needed for the non-preppers. And with 3 or 4 red dots making circles on somebody's chest, I really doubt they're going to lock & load on the spot and crank off a shot, so being scared to barder is silly in my mind. Just use normal common sense. There's going to be a lot of decent people that will be willing to trade for a box of shells. And I'm sure they'll have things we will need/ want too.
 
I'm of the mentality that others have echoed here: you're taking a double-hit by trading ammo, in that you're trading away a commodity that is specifically designed to protect you, while simultaneously supplying a potentially unknown individual with the means to shuffle you off this mortal coil. I'm not trying to dissuade you necessarily, just realize that you're losing out while also taking a risk at the same time.

Personally, I'm hedging my bets for currency into a different type of commodities: I've got a few cases of sealed Jack Daniels and other types of hard liquors, and have begun experimenting with some various vintages of vacuum-sealed bags of tobacco using a simple Foodsaver setup and some Google-fu. Nothing says "I'll trade you this for that" than a stiff drink or a few smokes. Works in society, works in jail, worked in post-Katrina, it'll work in the PAW too.

As always, just my $0.02, YMMV :thumb:
 
I've been stocking up on ammo for a year or so. Not so much for SHTF as to preserve my ability to enjoy my hobby if the crazy Cali Libs tax it to death or ban it all together. I'm up around 21,000 rds with about 8,000 of that being .22 . I think the .22 would be best for bartering due to it's popularity, what do you think would be the other most popular calibers to barter for needed supplies in a post SHTF world? I'm thinking with all the ARs around that .223 might be number two on the list. Any thoughts?

Mike
I think that in a shtf situ .22LR may just become coin of the realm. First for what it is, efficient, effective and easy to use and almost universal among gunowners. We can use it in place of larger caliber weapons to save on the more powerful ammo, it stores for a long time, but it is also something we can't make ourselves. Therefore in time it will become scarce and very much in demand. How would you feel after the SHTF if you were down to your last box of .22LR? What would you trade for another 50 rounds of .22LR if it would save your last 50 rounds of .556?

As for barter, I think .22LR is the best to barter with. If the purpose of .22 is to preserve the .308 or .556 or .270 etc. then bartering it away to someone with an AR would be OK, because if they meant you harm I would think they would already have the means to do you in. I wouldn't barter the 50BMG though. Never give up your range advantage. :cool:

In addition to barter it might be nice if you were able to help a friend or ally in a pinch. No sense having an ally with no ammo watching your flank when the zombies come. I don't think you can have to much .22LR. The secure feeling I get when looking at those cases of CCI and Butler Creek mags in my ammo safe are more than well worth the price.
 
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