Zastava M70 O-PAP Side Folding Stock?

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John Vorberger IV

Discussion Starter · Aug 10, 2013

I am looking at the Zastava M70 O-PAP Rifle at J&G Sales and although I like the washed wood stock, I really love those East German Sidefolders

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I am not sure whether the trunnion is a normal AKM trunnion or if it's a bulged/RPK style trunnion. If it's a normal AKM trunnion I'm good to go, but if it's a bulged or RPK style trunnion, how can I mount a german sidefolder to her?

Thanks,

John

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Hizzie

· #2 · Aug 10, 2013

It is NOT a normal trunion. The Yugoslavs have a special rear trunion and handguards. They do NOT interchange with other AKM's. The PAP is a special animal too. Reports on other forums are that the ACE receiver block for the Yugo pattern AKM's requires a bit if modification to fit due to the rivet pattern.

BTW - The bulged trunion refers to the barrel trunion where the barrel is attached to the receiver. Browsing images of the O-PAP showed both styles.

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tAKticool

· #3 · Aug 10, 2013

I have one of the "original" mid 2010 PAPs ... They are the 1.5mm RPK stamped receiver with unfortunately the plastic furniture (I THOUGHT I was getting the beautiful teak wooden furniture with a great thumbhole stock and a nice forend too)... and have searched for over 3 years now. WAY before the PAP became a common gun with the Century models and high-capacity conversions etc. etc.

This stupid $#*#@*%$&&!! trunion /rear of the receiver is like absolutely one of a $*#**!$)^$ kind and you just can't find anything to replace the furniture with. It sucks lemons. I actually contacted Zastava Arms, was contacted back by the directors office, and told they had no problem sending me a set of furniture since I was under the impression I was getting it and it was a present for my dad and there was no more in USA and at the time, the miami based EAA distributors literally cursed at me on the phone ("What the F*)@ dont you understand??? There is no more. You're not F2$(#(@ing getting wood. So stop f*#(@*ing calling and bothering us).

They said the would be in contact with me in the next few weeks to get my info. This was early fall or late summer 2010.

Never again heard from them, have sent about 2 emails a year since, never a peep.

And still wears the stupid plastic furniture.

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hoplite59

· #4 · Aug 10, 2013

are these chrome lined barrels ?

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MIL-DOT

· #5 · Aug 10, 2013

It doesn't look to me like the O-PAP version isn't offered in a side-folder, just the full-stock version.
http://www.jgsales.com/cai-yugo-akm...-grip-and-wood-stock.-**-sale-**-p-60085.html
...and the wood-stock version says both "new US and original parts", which likely includes a US-made barrel, that may or may not be chrome lined. For a while,there were no US-made chrome barrels at all, but they do exist now, so who knows.
But, Yugo AK's and SKS's have always typically come without chrome barrels. Given this vague degree of replacement parts, I would look for something without the hodge-podge of parts that these apparantly have.
Keep an eye on your local Armslist, good AK's are out there, and prices are coming down.

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hoplite59

· #6 · Aug 11, 2013

MIL-DOT said:
It doesn't look to me like the O-PAP version isn't offered in a side-folder, just the full-stock version.
http://www.jgsales.com/cai-yugo-akm...-grip-and-wood-stock.-**-sale-**-p-60085.html
...and the wood-stock version says both "new US and original parts", which likely includes a US-made barrel, that may or may not be chrome lined. For a while,there were no US-made chrome barrels at all, but they do exist now, so who knows.
But, Yugo AK's and SKS's have always typically come without chrome barrels. Given this vague degree of replacement parts, I would look for something without the hodge-podge of parts that these apparantly have.
Keep an eye on your local Armslist, good AK's are out there, and prices are coming down.

thanks MIL - DOT, kind of figured but that $599 price point is starting to look good. Plus buying over the net and having it sent to ffl is a hassle in case there's an issue with this rifle. Prices are starting to drop on the good stuff like the arsenals. 17 pages of them on gun broker and nary a bite on any. I'll be waiting for them to drop some more.

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Hizzie

· #7 · Aug 11, 2013

TAKticool said:
I have one of the "original" mid 2010 PAPs ... They are the 1.5mm RPK stamped receiver with unfortunately the plastic furniture (I THOUGHT I was getting the beautiful teak wooden furniture with a great thumbhole stock and a nice forend too)... and have searched for over 3 years now. WAY before the PAP became a common gun with the Century models and high-capacity conversions etc. etc.

This stupid $#*#@*%$&&!! trunion /rear of the receiver is like absolutely one of a $*#**!$)^$ kind and you just can't find anything to replace the furniture with. It sucks lemons. I actually contacted Zastava Arms, was contacted back by the directors office, and told they had no problem sending me a set of furniture since I was under the impression I was getting it and it was a present for my dad and there was no more in USA and at the time, the miami based EAA distributors literally cursed at me on the phone ("What the F*)@ dont you understand??? There is no more. You're not F2$(#(@ing getting wood. So stop f*#(@*ing calling and bothering us).

They said the would be in contact with me in the next few weeks to get my info. This was early fall or late summer 2010.

Never again heard from them, have sent about 2 emails a year since, never a peep.

And still wears the stupid plastic furniture.

Iron Wood Designs makes replacement stocks, handguards and grips in Yugo pattern.

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tAKticool

· #8 · Aug 11, 2013

hoplite59 said:
are these chrome lined barrels ?

Mine is not chrome lined but as someone detailed in a separate post, they are like top of the line craftsmanship cold hammer forged barrels so while they may not be chrome lined (Because of the fact Zastava Arms decided they wanted superior accuracy and were looking to make 'the best' Kalashnikov they could, they decided against chrome lining)...these barrels are awesome.

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fromxtor

· #9 · Oct 12, 2013

Takticool I just got my O PAP in the mail yesterday, I bought this rifle specifically as a SHTF rifle. The wood stock and fore end do not line up with what I have in mind. Shoot me an offer.

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